Recently read in a magazine: Now you can sell your soul to Satan on Internet.

-- Does anyone know about this?

-- Who invents such stupid sites?

-- What are they trying to obtain with this?

Curious.

Enrique

-- Enrique Ortiz (eaortiz@yahoo.com), July 07, 2002

Answers

To the top, please.

-- Enrique Ortiz (eaortiz@yahoo.com), July 07, 2002.

That must be what ISP stands for: In Satan's Possession. Puts a twist on 'downloading', doesn't it? As for myself, I found all kinds of Wizards on my computer. If you have a Backbone, this shouldn't pose any problems for you.

What you need is a patch called Baptism 1.0. Don't worry about getting the latest version, because there are no upgrades and it is freeware.

Seriously, that doesn't surprise me at all Enrique. If it is not a joke, then it is real; and if it is real it is not a joke... many more people than you might think do this, and get real paybacks in temporal terms; but we all know what a lousy deal it is.

-- Emerald (emerald1@cox.net), July 07, 2002.

Hello, Enrique

I am not suprised to read that. The demon's ability to trick and introduce errors of the worst kind into a entire group is incredible. There are those who insist it is easier to trick a entire crowd than to trick a indivual. It is certain that the devil can strike very large groups., almost always it is clear that human assent is involved, the human sin of free acceptance of satanic actions. The motives of this acceptance are many; wealth, power, vice and more.

The effect of Satan's influence on groups is one of the most destuctive and powerful. This is why the Popes, especially recent ones, insist on alerting us-for example, Paul's VI's speech of November 15,1972, and John Paul's II sppech of August 20, 1986.

Satan is our worst enemy, and he will be until the end of time. Therefore he uses all his intellect and power in attempt to thwart the plans of God, who will the salvation of all. Our strength is the Cross of Christ, His blood, His wounds, and obedience to His words and to His institution, The Holy Catholic Church.

I think the devil does a lot of his work with the internet now.

May St.Isidore of Seville, the Patron Saint of the internet, pray for us. His feastday is celibrated April 4.

God bless you

David

-- David (David@excite.com), July 07, 2002.

You know, I can see people who are non-believers doing something like that for even a payout of a couple dollars. My question would be: "what do you think the REAL implication of this is? If someone who didn't believe "sold their soul", they'd only be doing so to make money off a dupe, and wouldn't be really responsible as they don't believe they are really doing *anything*, otoh someone who DID believe would have to be pretty stupid or desperate, possibly also decreasing their responsibility. Someone who'd *knowingly* sell their soul to Satan? Why would Satan bother, as he probably has them already? It's just hard to believe this type of thing (unless it was decreed binding in some way, which I've never heard it to be) would be very productive, and so probably isn't really done.

No, I think that the site is probably being done more by adolescents or college kids on a dangerous prank as like as not. I would worry about them though, their souls aren't in too good of shape to be doing something like that.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), July 08, 2002.

Hello, Dr.

Whe I first came to forum a while back you recomended a good book to me! I have one I would recomend to you in case you have not read it. If you ever have the time, please read a book called, "An Exorcist tells his story", By Father Gabriele Amorth. I think you would enjoy it. I don't think you would be disapointed! If you read it, than I hope you enjoyed it. :-)

I would say you are probably right like usual with your opinion about this thread. But you never know. I rember that story of that board moving when you where with your buddy years ago in that garage.

God bless you

David

PS; Those Philly warrior's usually seem to have the most heart! :-)

-- David (David@excite.com), July 08, 2002.

can some one please tell me how you can raise lucife(to get help from him)also can you answer these questions. 1. If someone sold there sold to satan would they go to heaven? 2. Do you have to have broken the contract/pact with satan? 3. Can he take you to hell once he you have made a pact? 4. is it dangerous? is there a way you can protect yourself? 5. what is hell? who gos there?

-- Gordan Freeman (clint2000@lycos.co.uk), September 11, 2002.

Hey. Satan NEVER helps you. His main aim is to mess with your mind and make you THINK he's helping you. He isn't. Yes messing with him IS dangerous. VERY dangerous. You really can't protect yourself but Jesus can protect you (He is ALWAYS in control) and Mary will always pray for you and crush the Evil Ones's proud head. She gets mad when the Bad Guy bothers one of her babies. You are her baby. Jesus is your Lord. Trust in Him and you don't have anything to worry about.

I suppose if one has made a pact with the Evil One it would be very wise to talk to a priest and confess that. Probably there might be things you would need to do. But Jesus is ALWAYS ready to take you back. That's what He is there for, to save you, and to bring you home to Him.

God bless you.

XOXO Jane

-- jane (jane@don't like spam.either), September 11, 2002.

Gordon Freeman, go, I repeat, go to the nearest Catholic church and pray, just pray. Jesus Christ is the only way to true life and peace and healing. Open your heart to Him alone. He Himself tells us in the bible, "I am the way, the truth, and the life". And "I have come that you may have life, and have it abundantly".

He also states that Satan is the "father of lies". He is. Now do you want to trust a loving God, or a lying devil? I speak as one who has experienced the love of Jesus.

The devil has power, but only as much as we give him. And when we open ourselves to God, it is His power that is greater then the devil's. It is very DANGEROUS to flirt with evil. If one has made any pact with a demon, the pact must be broken. I advise you to pray, and then talk this over with a Catholic priest. If you are sincere in your heart about your questions, seek God, He is faithful and a mighty warrior for us.

-- Theresa Huether (rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), September 11, 2002.

Jane, thanks for the CONFIRMATION!! Talk about oneness of mind, thank you Jesus, we wrote at the same time!!

-- Theresa Huether (rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), September 11, 2002.

yeah I guess that's about it Theresa...very funny we wrote the same thing (mostly) at the same minute.

God love you- Jane

-- jane (jane@don't like spam.either), September 11, 2002.

Yes your right what a terrible thing it is to live isn't(sarcasim) What you don't think rock stars are happy living with money,sucess and women. It realy piss me of when christians have the nerve to tell me that when people live with satan you don't get things. Sure christians live well but so do satanist its only me who has to live in povery and with nothing in life and is jesus is the answer you must be joking. What mick jagger who has a great life is suffering becsue hes not with Jesus? please. What i am trying to say it realy gets to me when i here about christains saying that to have money or beautufull women is an illusion? what to be loved by someone who is ulgy is good? You tell me who more happy. Someone in the street with a great looking women or somone who is loney. I don't want to feel pathetic with jesus. I am not saying christian don't live well I am just saying someone like me who has nothing does not need or want jesus to make him feel better when the girl of my dreams is with someone get with the program. I probley won't be able to summon lucifer anyway. How can god choose this kind of destiny for me?

-- Gordan Freeman (clint2000@lycos.co.uk), September 12, 2002.

Dear Gordon,

I'm so sorry that you are having such a difficult time, I didn't realize that this was behind your message. I wish that there were something I could say to make it all better. God bless you.

But maybe I can say this. There is nothing wrong with beautiful things or money or success or being happy. Nothing at all. Jesus loves beautiful things too, he wants US to be beautiful. ANd who is to say whether someone like Mick Jagger has made a pact with the devil? I like the Stones, I like his music. I don't judge him. Only God knows...Just because things work out materially for a person doesn't mean they sold their soul to the devil. But that's neither here nor there. I wish you nothing but the best. I wish your pain be transformed into peace and happiness. Maybe it doesn't seem that way right now, but that's what God wants too. He loves you. Right now, just the way you are, right now. Just to keep your heart open to hope. I hope things get better soon.

XOXO Jane

-- jane (jane@dontlikespam.either), September 12, 2002.

Gordon,

Your soul was created by God, to give it to His greatest enemy is one of the worst things you could possibly do. Your desire to sell your soul reminds me of the Gospel where Jesus is tempted by the devil. He is tempted to submit to the desires of the world, the flesh, and Satan himself. Jesus' response, which, in time, I pray, will be yours, "The Lord thy God shalt thou adore, and him only shalt thou serve." (Mt 4:10) Why? first of all because He created you in His image and likeness, Satan was created by God. Second, though it may seem ideal and satiating, those things Satan gives don't come without cost, the cost of Eternal Flames. Yes, he can give you your hearts desires in this world but, in the next, it is pain, torment, and wailing. Finally, the greatest insult to a Father is to deny relationship to him. The same is true of your Heavenly Father, to deny relationship with Him breaks His heart.

You remember the parable of the lost son, or even the desire for the sheperd to recover one lost sheep. The same is true of you, you are His child in Christ, redeemed by His Son's blood, and bought with that same blood. Christ purchased your redemption by His own life, that is how much God loves you. Though it may seem He is distant and has abandoned you, it is not the case.

Don't give up because you see no other way out, always have hope.

God Bless You Gordon, you are in my prayers. I will especially beseech the intercession of St. Michael The Archangel on your behalf

-- (seminarian@ziplip.com), September 12, 2002.

Yes, Gordon, Enrique is right!

Enrique said "Yes, he can give you your hearts desires in this world but, in the next, it is pain, torment, and wailing." Even temporary sins may be pleasurable for the moment, but you will begin to reap what you sow in this lifetime as well!

Christ is the Son of God. He knocks at the door of your heart, Gordon. Open the door and let Him in. Renounce Satan, turn to Jesus! He will set you free from the law of sin and death. He will give you peace like you've never had, enormous spiritual riches that never fade, and a family in heaven and on earth that just long for you to say "I do." The angels are waiting, the Saints are waiting, and Jesus is waiting!

Don't worry about saying the right words, Gordon. Get on your knees right now and say "Jesus, I do. Help me to withstand Satan and his lies. Be my Lord and my King."

Satan is defeated Gordon. He was defeated by the cross of Jesus. Satan thought that finally, as Christ was crucified, that he had won. But oh, he misunderstand the plan of God. You see, death could not hold Jesus down, for he has RISEN from the dead! He paid the price for your sins on that cross. All the devil can do is scare you, and tempt you, and lie to you. His desire is to trick you into following him; straight down to the pit of hell. He is a lier. He can do nothing but lie.

Turn to God, resist the devil and he will flee.

Lots of love,

Gail

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), September 12, 2002.

Gordon~If you don't mind me asking...what is your age? Just curious.

Now, let me ask you something else. Would you willingly open your door and invite a serial killer into your home? Would you have invited Jeffrey Dahmer over for tea? Would you send your mother/sister/etc. out on a date with a known rapist? Would you give a convicted felon your bank account number? Somehow I doubt it. Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? Well, inviting Satan into your life is the exact same thing. He is the father of all lies. He's the one filling your head with the idea that only the beautiful people are blessed. He's the one whispering in your ear "why shouldn't you have the same thing? You deserve some happiness, too, and I can help you get it". And for a while, you would be happy. But eventually, all the wicked do fall. I was watching VH1 recently. They were doing a show on Def Leppard and were talking about their guitarist, Steve Clark. As they said, he was the unhappiest rock star they'd ever seen. Sure, he had the parties, the women, the money, etc. But he was miserable. Things may look nice and pretty on the outside but you can't see what is in someone's heart and soul. Just because they LOOK happy, doesn't always mean they ARE happy. And just because you turn your life over to Jesus, doesn't mean things are going to be bliss and carefree. Ever heard of Job? Believe me, Gordon. Good things worth having do not come easily. And material wealth does NOT bring eternal happiness. This life may seem sooooo long but really, it is not. None of this matters, Gordon. Do you really think it does? Trust me, things may be peachy keen in this life but it's no guarantee that things will be in the next. This life is full of ups and downs. And like I said, just because you accept Christ, doesn't mean your life is going to be roses and candy. But you will know peace in your soul. And you will NEVER be alone.

I'll tell you something, Gordon. I know a woman..my aunt to be exact...who seemed to have it all. She was SO beautiful when she was younger. But a lifetime of bitterness, partying, and dismissal of God has made her old before her time. It shows in her face. Being bitter, angry and jealous will make you old before your time and alone. And on the flip side of that, there is a girl I know with Down Syndrome. If anyone had a right to be bitter and angry over the way their life has been, it's her. She's not the most attractive girl in the face, I suppose but to me and many others, she is the most beautiful girl I've ever seen. She radiates peace and grace. She believes in God. And to me, she's the wealthiest person I know.

My suggestion to you? Be still and quiet and listen to God. Open your heart and be sincere. Give it a shot. What've you got to lose? Good luck, Gordon and God bless you.

-- Jackiea (sorry@dontlikespam.com), September 13, 2002.

Very nicely said, Jackiea. You are a very wise woman. Practical, too! It's a good combination. You do my heart good.

Love you, as always, Jane

-- jane (jane@don't like spam.either), September 13, 2002.

Why, thank you very much, my dear sweet friend. I happen to feel the exact same way about you. :)

Need to shoot off an email to you. Let you know what your little St. Joseph had to say about something in my package. hehe

Love you much~

-- Jackiea (sorry@dontlikespam.com), September 13, 2002.

Whats you belive rocks stars when they say there unhappy thats bullshit what Mick jagger whos had 2,000 women(I am not just picking on him just a good exsample)I don't thinks he deppresed. Realy insults me that you can say someone who has everything from life is suffering. So what did jesus die on cross for do you go to hell for being bad. Surely you would not go to hell for suffering with a shit life like a rock star(sarcasm). I am 20 by the way. I personaly think that relguois people are hypocrites anyway I have heard about people who go to church every sunday cheat on there wives/husbands and do all manor of things. I realy makes me sick to know even the church has a corrupt view of life or is that just relgion. I suffer not haveing a life I don't feel happy with jesus i tried it. I makes meel feel even more deprrsed parying to god when other are haveing a good life.

-- Gordan Freeman (clint2000@lycos.co.uk), September 13, 2002.

Gordon,

God does not send people to hell. People choose hell by the decisions they make in this life. If you do not wish to be part of God's family now, why would you want to be part of God's family then? God is not going to drag someone into heaven kicking and screaming against their will.

Sure, the Church is full of hypocrites. None of us live up to what we wish. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God. But when I stand before Jesus, I will have to give an account of MY life, and I will not be able to use the fallings of others as an excuse for my shortcomings.

You and I and everyone else on the planet were born with a sinful nature. God cannot, because of His holiness, allow sinful man into heaven. Jesus paid that price for your sins on the cross, making heaven accessible to you. If you turn against Christ, you have made your choice, and God will honor that choice in eternity.

Temporary pleasures are only for the moment, but heaven is forever! Do you think that Mick Jagger is going to remember what pleasures he had on this earth a thousand years from now? Doubt it. His fleeting memories of drug, sex and rock n'roll will die in an instant, at his death, and he will have nothing but eternal separation from God to look forward to.

Hell is a dark and grizly place. Away from the light of God, it is like the darkest cavern in the earth filled with rodents, bats and creepy crawly things. No one can hear you scream. You are totally alone, isolated from everyone. All you can hear are demons screaming obscenities and laughing hysterically because they HAVE YOU! Imagine thirsting FOREVER with nothing to quench your thirst. The only thing you will remember is your denouncement of the Son of God!

Hope you find Him,

Gail

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), September 13, 2002.

Yeah but one thing is would every one go to hell then? Thats I wan't to know I have always wondered if. well then what about people with other relgions apart from christanity is heaven welcome for them if they don't belive in Christ how can they be saved? and athiests? Don't you reckon have things in this lifetime becsue I would think nearly everone would not make it into heaven. Is is not in the ten comandmants not to worship more than one God? Do you belive in the ten commants or 7 dealy sins more just wondering? I thought jesus died on the cross so he paided the penalty for our sins?

-- Gordon Freeman (clint2000@lycos.co.uk), September 14, 2002.