THESE questions, smart guy. If you bothered to actually read previous posts on this board, you would have seen them. 1) If he has sex with children, why would he admit to millions of people on television that he allows them to sleep in his room?>> You are truly a disturbed individual. It is impossible to deny his sleeping with children when it has been said time and time again by children on video. You say that he would never hurt a child and that he only wants to give them love. Are you familiar with NAMBLA( of course you have, you're probably a member)? Their beliefs are in line with the rhetoric of your hero. They too believe that they are not hurting a young boy when they have sex with them.They believe that sex is showing them love in its purest form. You are not close to this case. You do not know the details of this case and you rely solely on opinion and hearsay to validate your arguments.

Also, the strange cases you are supporting at the end of each of your postings need to be examined. It appears that all of them have to deal with children and fantasyland. You say you are a college student, yet you want Art Linkletter to cover Disneyland's 50th anniversary. You fit the profile of a pedophile. It is probably in your best interest if you cease to defend this molester with such zeal. It will only draw more attention to yourself.

-- Anonymous, November 23, 2003

The accuser discribes Jacko's plea to have his anus licked.

Well people what do you think about this ? The warrant is out for his arrest for molesting a 12 yr old child in his childhood paradise Never Never Land! Now as much as I am a great fan of Micheal as an artist - I thinkt he man has SERIOUS issues surrounding his childhood. The whole Jackson family seems to be totally messed up. I am wondering if this whole thing of molestation is true. The way he handled his baby on the Bashere interview bouncing di rhaatid life out of the child on his knee and dangling the baby over the railing!!!!! Mind yout hat interview was cruel twisting but it did highlight he is an unfit parent!!! The whole of England crucify the man as Wacko Jacko. There is politics there, but i honestly feelt he man is in need of serious psychological help.

Scott Peterson and Jacko should be locked up together in an Iraqi prision.

-- Anonymous, November 23, 2003

I can't believe they are still together.

Caulkin's bum cheeks that is.

-- Anonymous, November 23, 2003

And it hasn't just been boys. Yes, that's right. Girls as well.

-- Anonymous, November 23, 2003

So, a person who opens up their bed to boys automatically has sex with them? Read all of my posts. "They" ask him. "He" asks the parents. "They" agree. "He" obliges to the kids request(s). "Big" freakin' deal. You know, if you cannot understand or even "fathom" any of the posts I've written, you are dis-respectful, un-grateful, in-considerate, and insensitive. I pity you.

-- Anonymous, November 23, 2003

well where do i start... just the facts , he admitily sleeps with boys (young) oh i forgot to say i like MJ BUT LETS FACE IT HE IS gay and thats not a secret! so why do almost all fans want to cover up for him?even with all his money he still likes young boys > why ? if hey wants to sleep with males ok hell he can buy a man not a boy for gods sake ! also he neds to work on that pig looking nose

-- Anonymous, November 22, 2003

Family and some leading figures in the African American community defended the "King of Pop".

The star's mother, Catherine Jackson, told the online version of Germany's Bunte magazine yesterday that there were two interpretations of the law in the United States — "one for whites and one for blacks".

She suggested that her 45-year-old son had been tricked ahead of a police swoop on his house on Tuesday. "I wonder whether somebody could have set a trap for him and hidden false evidence in his house." But she said he was bearing up under the strain of the charges and the unprecedented media attention focused on him. "He's not worried because he's innocent." US civil rights leader Rev Jesse Jackson called for restraint, saying the entertainer deserved a trial in court, not in the media, and expressed "grave concerns" over prosecutors' handling of the case.

"Michael deserves due process, the newsrooms should remain objective and the global community must not hasten to judgment," he said, branding the raid by up to 70 investigators on Jackson's Neverland Ranch as "overkill".

Singer Rick James, a friend of Jackson since their Motown recording days, was blunt about what he saw as prosecutor Tom Sneddon's motives in pursuing Jackson on child abuse charges for the second time in 10 years.

"He's black, rich and famous, and they have nothing better to do," he told CNN of the charges Sneddon filed against Jackson.

Jackson's brother, Jermaine, implicitly evoked the spectre of racism against the black star, who is one of the best-known entertainers on earth.

"He is innocent. This is nothing but a modern-day lynching," he said.

Peter Montoya, an author who writes about personal branding, predicted that the prickly claims of racism would become a recurring theme in the case against Jackson.

"His hardcore fans will surely rally around him and make charges of racism and persecution," he said.

Rapper P. Diddy and rhythm-andblues diva Alicia Keys also weighed in on Jackson's side, accusing the media of hounding the embattled "King of Pop".

"I feel offended at the way the media is handling a man who really has been a major force in American culture since the day he was born, virtually," Keys told reporters. "I really think that he deserves more respect." Jackson's god daughter Nicole Richie, 22, whose father is crooner Lionel Richie, also came to the be-sieged pop icon's defence, saying she and pals had often slept in the same room with him at Neverland and that no inappropriate behaviour took place.

"It was like, absolutely nothing more than just an adult kind of wanting to be a kid again," she told the Access Hollywood entertainment television show on Thursday.

Rapper L.L. Cool said neither the charges nor the media hyperbole surrounding them would dim his support for "Michael".

"I'm a fan. I support him a hundred zillion per cent. Until I see evidence, I'm not going to be convinced. I'm not going to be brainwashed."

-- Anonymous, November 22, 2003

1) Read the investigative article in GQ. If any part of it isn't true, I want proof. 2) Read these news bits, you closed-minded jerk:

Alicia Keys, LL Cool J, Ludacris Denounce Treatment Of Jackson Many artists feel his case is being tried in the media. by Corey Moss

As Michael Jackson awaits his January 9 arraignment on child molestation charges, perhaps he can find some comfort in the widespread support from his music peers.

At Thursday's Vibe Awards and various Los Angeles parties surrounding

the event, several artists, from LL Cool J to Monica, spoke out against what many consider a harsh attack on the pop icon.

"I'm upset at the way he's being treated in the media," Alicia Keys said. "I think they're really trying to slander his name, and I really think that's unfair for the way that he's contributed to the American culture since the day he was born. I think he deserves much more than that."

Keys was especially troubled by Wednesday's press conference announcing the allegations, where Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon often answered questions in a rather lighthearted manner (see "Why Is The DA In The Michael Jackson Case Smiling?"): http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1480542/11202003/jackson_michael.jht ml

"It's not funny," she said. "This is someone's life, and I don't think he should be reduced to a joke. He's far more than that."

Kelly Osbourne agreed. "I think that DA was a little immature and inappropriate with his comments," she said. "He should be a little more professional."

Nicole Richie, Lionel Richie's daughter and Jackson's goddaughter, believes the charges stem from enemies like Sneddon trying bring Jackson down as he attempts a comeback with Number Ones, which was released Tuesday.

"I grew up with him and I've spent a lot of time at Neverland and nothing has ever happened with me in any way," Richie said. "You have to look at both sides. I do think it is very convenient that his album came out and all this stuff is happening. I definitely do think that's very convenient. ... It really hurts me to see that his whole life is ruined."

Other musicians stressed that the basis of the U.S. justice system is that people are innocent until proven guilty.

"What it always seems like is guilty until proven innocent, and [even] then we might still think you're guilty," LL Cool J said. "Until I see some evidence that says he's guilty, I support him publicly."

"I have to recognize the fact that there are two sides to every story, and I've always been one person to say, 'Who are we to judge?' " said Monica, who performed at 2001's "Michael Jackson: 30th Anniversary Celebration, the Solo Years" event. "There only is one judge."

LL said he feels Jackson is assumed guilty because of his awkward appearance and eccentric actions. "I don't think that plastic surgery means you're a pedophile," he said. "You can't judge a book by its cover. Some people look perfect, like the [killer in the movie] 'American Psycho.' "

"Michael Jackson's been dogged for things for the last 10 years or more," Vibe's Emil Wilbekin said, "and I think it's really hard when you become that big of an artist and you've been at the top, it's like, where else do you go? I feel sorry for him because I think the genius of his music is getting lost in a lot of the scandal and controversy, but the man is human."

LL Cool J and others also said Jackson should be treated like any other alleged criminal and that things like sending 70 officers to search Neverland is over the top.

"When you get to the point where you give someone a $3 million bail, [that's ridiculous]," the rapper scoffed. "I mean, people hit court with 50 kilos of cocaine and don't get $3 million bail. Murders don't get $3 million bails."

"Definitely people are trying to go after him 'cause he's a celebrity, trying to make an example out of him," Ludacris said. "Hopefully, justice will prevail."

While the latest scandal surrounding Jackson had a lot of his contemporaries up in arms, some were overtaken with frustration and confusion.

"I don't know what to think, I don't have enough information," said Quincy Jones, who produced Jackson's classic Off the Wall, Thriller and Bad albums. "I just pray for him, and I pray for everyone involved."

"I don't know, man. It's something you hate to see," was all a solemn Pharrell Williams could say.

"He's my biggest influence so that's why I'm very defensive," Missy Elliott said. "I'm ready to fight about Michael Jackson, so we pray to God he didn't do it, 'cause I might go to jail trying to defend him."

Monica said her thoughts are with Jackson's three children. "This is something I think they are going to have to hear about their dad as children now and as adults later," she said. "That's the more unfair part. My prayers go out to both sides until the truth is told."

This report is from MTV News.

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Mark Lester To Appear On GMTV [UK]

Mark Lester, God Father to Michael Jackson's children will make a very special appearance on GMTV the British television breakfast show.

Unlike some celebrities, Mark will be speaking on the recent "tabloid" developments concerning his very dear friend Michael.

For those living in the UK be sure to watch Mark between 6.30am - 7.30am.

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CBS Show Cancelled

The following statement has been released in regards to postponing the Michael Jackson Special. CBS is postponing its plan to broadcast the entertainment special, "Michael Jackson Number Ones," which was scheduled to air Wednesday, Nov. 26 at 10:00 PM.

Given the gravity of the charges against Mr. Jackson, we believe it would be inappropriate at this time to broadcast an entertainment special.

However, we are very mindful that Mr. Jackson is innocent until proven guilty. We will consider broadcasting the special after the due process of the legal system runs its course.

A replacement program for the special will be announced at a later time.

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Jermaine Jackson: "Sick & ******* Tired" Associated Press:

A defiant, and sometimes profane, Jermaine Jackson is defending his brother Michael.

Jermaine Jackson tells C-N-N his brother "is innocent" of child molestation accusations, and he and his family "support Michael 100 percent."

At one point in his live rant in a telephone interview, Jackson said he was "sick and -- expletive -- tired" of people accusing his brother.

He denounced media reports of the scandal -- calling the police and media handling of the charges "a modern-day lynching."

Jackson says the media have been clamoring for an image of his brother in handcuffs. He says they have that now -- but his brother will be vindicated.

Jermaine Jackson spoke shortly after live images of his brother being taken into custody in handcuffs were shown on T-V.

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Interesting Points Brought Up On GlobalBlackNews.com

Dick Gregory's Comments On Michael Jackson

Below is an article in it's entirety taken from globalblacknews.com which raises some valid and scarcely thought points concerning the latest media speculation about Michael Jackson:

Dick Gregory's Comments On Michael Jackson By Bakari Akil II

Dick Gregory, activist, health guru, ex-comedian as well as advisor to many influential people is a man who has been a mainstay in American culture for decades. As a friend to Michael Jackson for many years he offered insight to the current situation involving Mr. Jackson and provided a perspective that has not been evident in many media outlets.

On a radio show entitled Make it Plain, hosted by WOL's Mark Thompson in Washington, D.C., Dick Gregory stated in response to the mad media frenzy and tilt toward guilt coverage, that those who believe in Michael Jackson's guilt or innocence should first ask for truth to be exposed. Whether it is damaging for Michael Jackson or not, he insisted that truth is the most important aspect of this issue.

However, Mr. Gregory does not believe that Mr. Jackson is guilty of the charges and raised many questions concerning the events leading up to the actions of law enforcement and consequent media coverage.

He asked why was it necessary for 40 police officers and 20 FBI agents to raid Michael Jackson's property. More specifically, why were FBI agents present, especially since the allegations against Mr. Jackson are not a federal offense? He also questioned the legitimacy of the claim of law enforcement that they did not know of Mr. Jackson's whereabouts and the timing of the raid.

According to Mr. Gregory, there is a monetary element to this entire situation. He states that Michael Jackson purchased the Beatles catalog for nearly $48 million and it is now worth $1.5 billion. He also owns the rights to the Elvis catalog and found out after his purchase of the Beatles collection that these rights also included ownership of Little Richard's catalog of which, Michael Jackson promptly called Mr. Richard and returned it to him.

His suspicions arise from the fact that Michael Jackson has taken out loans and his lenders wanted collateral, which was none other than his Beatles catalog. Mr. Gregory stated that Michael Jackson did not mind offering that up as collateral because every time he would come out with a record he would make around $500 million from his efforts. For those who doubt those claims, he explained that there is a mischaracterization that occurs when people think about what is success for Michael Jackson. Although he may not achieve the outrageous sales of his more youthful days a majority of successful artists sales would pale by comparison.

Mr. Gregory found it odd that every time Michael Jackson is about to come out with an album or moneymaking venture he is hit with a scandal and that this situation is no different. He also admonished the audience not to forget that Michael Jackson embarrassed SONY and music mogul Tommy Mottola when he claimed that they were racist and that they took advantage of and mistreated Black artists.

Not holding anything back, Mr. Gregory stated that Rev. Al Sharpton, who came to the defense of Michael Jackson during this time was soon overwhelmed by media coverage of a video tape which showed individuals attempting to frame him in a drug deal. He went even further stating that this type of behavior could be traced to Bill Cosby and the suspicious murder of his son Ennis, who was gunned down while changing the tire of his Mercedes on a California highway. He claims that this happened after Mr. Cosby hinted that he wanted to purchase NBC when it was up for sale.

Dick Gregory also alleged that when they showed Michael Jackson in handcuffs, it was symbolic and when they handcuffed him, they handcuffed us all (Black communities). He stated that they allowed Mr. Jackson to board his private plane in Las Vegas, fly back to California and then handcuffed him and immediately took them off when inside the police station. According to Mr. Gregory, law enforcement had not judged him an extreme flight risk if they let him fly in and obviously not a danger if they immediately uncuffed him once inside, so why the posturing?

Mr. Gregory further intensified his discourse by reiterating that the value of Michael Jackson's catalog cannot be underestimated and asserted that Mr. Jackson could easily be killed, have it consequently ruled a suicide and thus his collection will be forfeited in lieu of his debt.

He further commented that people such as Liz Taylor, whom he knows Michael would rush to their aid in times of need, have not come to his defense or spoke out on his behalf. He also talked about how many people take "Michael" for a joke, yet he is very intelligent and that he knows what is going on.

Yet for all his concerns, Dick Gregory stated that Michael Jackson will "come out clean" in this dilemma and he called for people to say a daily prayer for the "truth to come out" about this situation concerning Mr. Jackson at 12:00 P.M., no matter what the time zone. He believes, ultimately, people will be shocked at what that truth is.

In the final analysis, many may balk at the comments and observations of Mr. Gregory, believing that governmental officials, media organizations and corporations in the music business may be beyond collusion or conspiracies (when two or more make a conscious effort to bring about a certain reality), which is fine. Yet, free and independent thought that Mr. Gregory exhibits is absolutely necessary, especially in an era where fact and fiction has taken an equal seat in mainstream media and thought.

Hopefully, people will not jump on the bandwagon of mainstream reactionary thought and will judge this situation objectively and think about how the constant stream of Black men being vilified as sexual and violent deviants will affect Black communities and Black individuals in general. I will not even address how these events also help serve as a smokescreen to other national and international events, but if we do not become more vigilant of our surroundings, it maybe a mistake we may all regret.

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Jermaine Jackson Clarifies Bed-Sharing

Jermaine Jackson appeared on 20/20 tonight (Nov 21) defending his brother. The elder Jackson has confirmed what many Jackson supporters have believed for a long time: Michael Jackson has never actually gone to sleep in the same bed with any child. To explain this further, when Jackson admits that he "shares his bed" with children, he is not referring to actually laying down next to any child, turning the lights off and going to sleep next to them. When Jackson uses that phrase, he means that he's sharing his personal property with anyone who wishes to sleep in his bed while he will sleep on the floor or on a cot. Thus, he never physically sleeps in the same bed with any child. This information was also confirmed by Corey Feldman on Larry King Live (aired Nov 21, 2003) when he said that Jackson slept on a cot while he was there. Oddly, this was also confirmed by the alleged victim during the Living with Michael Jackson "documentary" when he admits that Jackson slept on the floor while he and his siblings slept in Jackson's bed.

The media does not shy away from random speculations—the more wild and untrue, the better—where Michael Jackson is concerned. Could misinterpretations of Jackson's words be coming back to bite the media in their proverbial asses? Looks like it.

Michael Jackson has yet to be charged with anything. The "case" against Jackson seemed to be slowly unraveling throughout the day with reports that the accuser's family was turned down by two civil attorneys--who questioned their credibility before any allegations were formally made—and more reports that the accuser's father stated he does not believe Jackson harmed his son

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Actor Corey Feldman (32) gave an interview to CNN's Larry King. Feldman has known Michael Jackson since he was 13 years old.

Below follows a transcript of the interview:

Larry King: The next guest, quite a talented young man, Corey Feldman, actor and musician was good friends with Michael Jackson for many years starting at age 13. He's about to begin a new movie called "No Witness" and is also working on his fourth album. What do you make of all of this?

Corey Feldman: Well, there's a lot to make, I suppose.

Larry King: Shocked?

Corey Feldman: No. Who would be shocked? It's happened before. It's a repeat performance. We have seen it before. We know what to expect.

Larry King: You spoke up for him ten years ago. Are you doing the same tonight?

Corey Feldman: I'm taking more of a neutral stance at this point, but that's not necessarily to say that I believe anything. It's more to say Michael and I have had our personal issues through the years and we've had our differences and for that reason, I'm not here as a cheerleader.

Larry King: You are not now his close friend, right?

Corey Feldman: We're not close friends at this time.

Larry King: You were close friends?

Corey Feldman: We were very close, yes.

Larry King: And you're not going to tell us why it broken up?

Corey Feldman: It's kind of irrelevant. Not relating to at all.

Larry King: How did you meet?

Corey Feldman: It's a great story. We met on the set of the "Goonies." I was a huge fan of his. Growing up I idolized the guy. I was acting since I was 3. So being, you know, a huge fan and idolizing the guy, wanting to dance like him, wanting to dress like him, all of those times of things, like most kids did in the '80s and some still do today. And what happened was I was kind of bothering Steven Spielberg. I said, Steven, you've got to introduce me. I know you guys are friends. I've seen the press. And Steven said, well, I'll try to get to it. We got us tickets to the Victory Tour where we all went to Dodgers Stadium. What happened was, he kept teasing me with you're going to meet him and eventually it came down to this day on the set shooting this water pipe scene. And Richard Donner, who director the film, Steven Spielberg directed the second unit stuff on it. So, we're down there, and we're doing this water pipe scene, and it's a big tight close-up on me and Spielberg says, by the way, I need you to be shocked, I need a great _expression and you're going to do this line where you say, "reverse pressure. And look right into the camera. And by the way, Michael's coming to the set today. What? you know. Got that reaction.

Larry King: Did you hit it off right away?

Corey Feldman: Oh, yes, immediately. Immediately. Well, don't forget, there was seven kids in the cast. It was a big cast of kids and Michael, of course, tried to spend time with everybody but I was the one right by his side. Hey Michael, hey Michael.

Larry King: Did he befriend you? Did you go to Neverland?

Corey Feldman: I said to him, if I gave you my phone number, would you call me and he said, sure. I thought, not in a million years. He called me that night and we spoke for probably two hours on the phone. Told me stories about McCartney and this and that. It was great. We became very close and spoke once or twice a week I would say at the least.

Larry King: Spent time with him?

Corey Feldman: Spent, plenty of time.

Larry King: Go to Never, Neverland?

Corey Feldman: Been to Neverland many times.

Larry King: I say Never, Never. It's one Never, right?

Corey Feldman: It's one Never, yes.

Larry King: Did you sleep with him?

Corey Feldman: No. We shared rooms a couple of times. Never shared a bed. But, you know, like one time we went to Disneyland and we went to the Disneyland Hotel and, you know, he was a -- so much of a gentleman, which this really surprised me, but so much of a gentleman but he actually offered his bed and allowed me to sleep in his bed and he took a cot. And he slept in the cot. That's a true story.

Larry King: Is he childish? Childlike?

Corey Feldman: Childlike. There's a difference between childish and childlike. And the reason I say that is because I try to hold the same kind of reasoning in my own life. I believe that there -- it is okay to be childlike, it is OK to have wonderment and disbelief in the world and to see the world through a child's eyes. However, childish means a sign of immaturity and I doubt he's immature.

Larry King: You don't think he's immature.

Corey Feldman: No.

Larry King: What was his behavior around other kids when you were around him?

Corey Feldman: You know what? Everything that I have seen, I have to be completely honest, because I couldn't do it any other way. Everything I have ever seen about him has been kind and hearted to children. I've never seen him act in any inappropriate way to a child.

Larry King: And he was never inappropriate with you?

Corey Feldman: Never with me. Never with me.

Larry King: So, then why not be fully committed to him now as you were ten years ago?

Corey Feldman: As I said, we had our personal differences.

Larry King: It didn't have anything to do with this?

Corey Feldman: It had nothing to do with this. We had a situation, which I can't really talk about, but it was around the time of his 30th anniversary special and we had a falling out as friends sometimes do. And we've had our differences. It's been a bit public. But, you know of course I wasn't the first one to say, hey, ra ra ra, Michael Jackson, but I will say this much, the biggest focal point for me is the way the media is handling it. I mean, let's face it. He's an American. He's an American citizen. And he has the right to a fair trial. Regardless of his celebrity. And that's a thing that sometimes is lost, Larry, is that people seem to just forget that celebrities have the rights to any other citizen.

Larry King: When we come back, we're going show you Corey in a quick scene from a movie in which he was doing a takeoff on Michael. We'll be right back. Don't go away. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

Larry King: Our guest is Corey Feldman, long time good friend of Michael Jackson. In "Dream a Little Dream" you played a high school rebel that's obsessed with Michael, right?

Corey Feldman: I don't know if it was part of the character description, but I was obsessed with Michael and that bled into the character.

Larry King: Let's see a little bit of that. Doing a good job, Corey.

Corey Feldman: I had the extensions. I could dance much better than that, by the way. They didn't show the best stuff.

Larry King: We know you had your own problems, you had drug problems. What was Michael like during that period of your life?

Corey Feldman: Well, you know Larry, that's interesting and a good question because at that point in my life and especially Michael's life and career, he was kind of very sugar-coated at that time and very kind of prim and proper. Everyone thought of him as the perfect ideal of the American citizen. And for me, it was kind of like Michael's probably not going to stick around, probably not going to be my friend anymore and it was a big shock he was very supportive and came out and called me and asked if there was anything he could do, if there was anything that I needed and gave me profound advice, which was to take the pain of the torment and the turmoil I was enduring and to kind of refocus that into my acting and to use it. And it was profound advice and I've used it.

Larry King: Do you say there were areas he was wise?

Corey Feldman: He was very wise. Very, very intelligent man.

Larry King: Then why all of the do you think peculiarities? The facials?

Corey Feldman: You know what? Michael Jackson is a very eccentric man. You know? He's just -- you can't understand him. I can't understand him. You know, what I do half of the things he does or make half of the choices he makes? No. But then again I'm not Michael Jackson and I haven't achieved half of the things that Michael has. I haven't fought half of the things he has.

Larry King: Why do you think the appearance change has been so dramatic?

Corey Feldman: Well, I think he's a very insecure person. And let's face it, when you have the media hounding you all the time -- I know for myself, you know, it's crazy having the media constantly following you around, constantly wanting to talk to you about everything that comes up. And that's just me. And being Michael Jackson, it's only going to be magnified by 100 times. It's very impactful on how you see yourself.

Larry King: Does he like public acclaim?

Corey Feldman: No. Acclaim but he doesn't like being out there.

Larry King: Like, he liked driving around yesterday with the people grabbing his hand?

Corey Feldman: I think he enjoyed that. Of course he did. It's an acknowledgment that he still has his fans.

Larry King: Why this -- the thing with children? Forget that he's sexual or anything. Why this attraction to be with kids? Why would he call a 13-year-old up at night?

Corey Feldman: Again, I can want speak on behalf of him. And I'm sure he wouldn't want me to. , but I can tell you this much, based on my life, that's all I base it on, I grew up in this industry, I've been working since I was 3-years-old, 30 years I'm in the industry this year, with that, I had no childhood. I didn't have sleepovers. I didn't have, you know, going away on field trips or going and doing school sessions or anything like that. I didn't even get to go to school regularly, because I was working all the time. So, I know I missed a great part of my childhood and can only imagine he feels the same. I know he does and why he got along for so many years.

Larry King: So he likes children because he still feels....

Corey Feldman: Well, I'll put it to you this way. It's not only that. He's making up for it and saying, you know what, I want to help these kids. I want to give them the fun I didn't get to have. And for myself, personally, I understand because, listen, I would have kids come over to my house. I have had kids come over plenty of times as an adult. I've had kids plenty of times come over and say, you know, this kid's sick with cancer. Wants to, you know, spend a day with you. Take him to Disneyland.

Larry King: Wouldn't you think -- we've got a couple of minutes left- that he would have been super careful in view of ten years ago? Tread easily.

Corey Feldman: Here's the other side of the coin. If he's not guilty of anything, and he has said this to me, they're not going to stop me from being who I am. In other words, he's going to go on living his life the way he sees fit and envisions it. And for him to change or alter that course would make everybody feel they were right.

Larry King: He might have made that settlement to prevent a trial to prevent at thing, but didn't believe he did anything wrong and continue doing his life style because he doesn't believe he's doing anything wrong.

Corey Feldman: Therefore -- exactly. And he says to prove -- to do anything different, he says, would be proving them right, because then I change for them.

Larry King: I got you. Do you miss his friendship?

Corey Feldman: Yes and no. You know, it's like any lost friend. There's an emotional attachment, obviously. I miss that part. I miss the fun we had together. I hope that this is an eye opening experience for him, because I was always a good friend and true friend and I hope he looks at the people around him. What Michael Jackson needs more than anything, is to look around what he's got around him and say, who can I trust?

Larry King: Does he have people you're weary of about?

Corey Feldman: It's not that, it's the people that he's cut off that he shouldn't have been so weary about.

Larry King: Oh, he cut off people in his life who, in your opinion, he should not have cut off?

Corey Feldman: Exactly.

Larry King: People who gave him good advice.

Corey Feldman: People who were there to just to be his friend.

Larry King: One other thing, is he close with his brothers and sisters?

Corey Feldman: Yes. It's the whole family, it's -- they're inseparable. They will always be a family.

Larry King: So, when they stand together, that's not for public consumption?

Corey Feldman: No. They stand together no matter what. They're unified. By the way happy birthday. I watched the show. It was great.

Larry King: Thank you, Corey. Thank you for coming on.

Corey Feldman: Thank you.

Larry King: Corey Feldman, the actor, the musician was good friends with Michael Jackson. This is his first interview since all of the current hullabaloo began. I'm glad. You're not going to do any others? I'm last -- first and last interview.

Source: CNN / MJFC / Special thanks to Daggi for bringing this to our attention!

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Jermaine Jackson: "Ready For War" Jermaine Jackson, Michael Jackson's brother is talking loud and clear. He gave an interview broadcast on ABC's 20/20, telling Barbara Walters that his family is "ready for war." "If you handcuff my brother, you handcuff the whole family," Jermaine stated.

He went on to say that this case was the result of "extortion" by the alleged victim's family and "a personal vendetta" held by Santa County's district attorney and that he will request a state and federal investigation into the authorities who are working on the case.

"He's [Michael] not a criminal. He's been innocent since day one, he's not a child molester, he's not a pedophile, and these things have got to stop. You got a bunch of racist, I'm sorry, racist rednecks out there who don't care about people.

We are a family, my mother is very angry, we are all angry, and we're going to put our soldiers and generals together and prepare for war, that's what this is."

In a passionate telephone conversation with CNN on Thursday, Jermaine Jackson had already expressed outrage over recent commentary about the allegations. He compared it to "a modern-day lynching" of a man whose life has been "about peace." During the phone conversation Jermaine also made clear that the entire Jackson family supports Michael "one thousand percent" because they believe he is innocent.

Below follows a transcript of Jermaine Jackson's interview to CNN anchor Kyra Phillips:

PHILLIPS: I want to ask you how are you feeling right now? I know you have been a big supporter of your brother. You have always come out publicly and supported him. What's going through your mind right now?

JACKSON: Well, first of all, I'd like to say the whole family supports Michael one hundred percent, one thousand percent.

Michael is innocent.

And just to let you know how I feel, I'm very disappointed in the system in which things were done. At the same time, Michael is in very strong spirits because he is innocent.

PHILLIPS: What has he told you?

JACKSON: We're tired of people -- I'm sick and [expletive] tired of people speaking on my brother's behalf and my family's behalf who do not know us.

So you put these people on national TV, on international TV, and they say these things, and the public is saying, 'Oh, wow, is he really like this?' My brother is not eccentric.

We had an incredible, wonderful childhood. And what they're doing is bringing him down with the very thing that he loved, his children and family. My brother is about peace. They don't know us. But this will reveal itself. But I'm sick and [expletive] tired about everybody saying these things about my family. We will fight, and we will stand up. And everybody that knows this family around the world will support us. Because, at the end of the day, this is nothing but a modern- day lynching. This is what they want to see, him in handcuffs. You got it. But it won't be for long, I promise you.

PHILLIPS: Jermaine ...

JACKSON: I'm sick and tired.

PHILLIPS: And believe me, I ...

JACKSON: Sick and tired of this.

PHILLIPS: I have no idea what you are going through. I am definitely not in your shoes.

JACKSON: No, you don't know.

PHILLIPS: No, you're right. You are right.

JACKSON: You don't walk in my shoes or my family's shoes.

PHILLIPS: You are absolutely right.

JACKSON: You don't walk in our shoes, but you put these people on national television to say things. They don't know our family.

PHILLIPS: And that's why we have you ...

JACKSON: We are a family and we will continue to be a family. That's my love right there. And we support him one thousand percent. I have nothing else to say.

Source: ABC / CNN / MJFC

-- Anonymous, November 22, 2003

One other thing Mart, you have an obvious disregard for the well being of children, although in your own distorted view of reality, you may be thinking quite the opposite Your constant clamoring that MJ is innocent and your sickening defense of his own admitted practices is atypical of a person who is trying to proclaim his own innocence through a proxy. The fact that MJ is neither a relative nor an aquaintance of yours makes this point. Another question may be : How many children, ala John Wayne Gacy, do you have stuffed in YOUR crawlspace? As a parent I pray that people like you and your fantasy lover MJ are never allowed around children.

-- Anonymous, November 22, 2003

the simple fact that photos of MJ's genitals do not match the descriptions given to authorities by the boy.> You are obviously delusional. The transcripts of the original court documents and the original investigative reports with regards to this matter show an unquestionable agreement between the description given to the authorities and the photos of said genitals. It appears that in your haste to defend your love for this cretinous pedophile, you have forgotten that when you posture a defense, you must have a basis of facts to support it. Your adamant and unrestrained affection for this individual and the acts that he is alleged to have perpetrarted on this young boy are, at the very least, disturbing. Which brings the question... How many young boys do YOU share your bed with and are the authorities aware of your actions?

-- Anonymous, November 22, 2003

To be fair, just because the two speak lovingly about each other doesn't mean they have sex.

The same thing is likely to happen between a parent and a son/daughter. I'm disabled ... and I've seen stuff like this dozens of times between, say, disabled students and teachers or aides.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

I don't know whether MJ is a pedophile or not. All I know is that on that documentary, the body language of the boy with cancer and MJ spoke volumes. They looked to me like lovers. Even the way the boy spoke about MJ, the look he had in his eyes, sounded like a person talking about someone they had just made love with.

Disturbing.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

I Think michael jackson Is A Pedophile.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

What if MJ isn't a child molester; that he just has unconditional love for all children? I tell you, if I was able, I wouldn't be afraid to do what he's doing (Allowing children sleep over in his house if they so desire & if their parents approve). Did it ever occur to you that he's "not" molesting children? Did it ever occur to you that his donating of well over $100 mill to charity is out of pure Godly love and not some strange twisted sexual desire? His last charity, Heal the Kids, got screwed by one of Mike's closest friends, so he is unveiling a new charity later this year. He visits hospitals everywhere he goes, showers disadvantaged kids with toys and helps provide the homeless with blankets and pillows. He is listed in Guinness as having donated to the most charities. And he pays for funerals. Is it entirely possible that there exists at least one human being on Earth who appears to be as loving, compassionate and, most of all, misunderstood as Jesus? Yes -- and his name is Michael Jackson. No, Mike is not Jesus. But, he is very much like him. Jesus possessed an unconditional love for children, a love so strong and true that the majority of those around him could not understand it. He saw life through different eyes; on a much deeper level; and for this he was tortured and left for dead. Yet, do we question the motives of this man? Or can we, as fellow human beings, search deep within ourselves to feel what he felt; to see what he saw; to be touched in a way that it almost hurts? Can we, as fellow human beings, accept such a man today?

Michael Jackson is not a pedophile; there is no proof. There is, however, plenty of proof that he's innocent, ie the thorough investigation described in GQ or the simple fact that photos of MJ's genitals do not match the descriptions given to authorities by the boy. If you are taking the fact that he sleeps next to children as proof of the man being a pedophile, did you ever consider that the man might just be a little more loving and compassionate than you or I? They -- the children -- request to spend the night in his room; he complies. So what? He sees nothing wrong with it, and neither do the parents. Just because everybody all might sleep in the same bed does not automatically make them a pedophile. How many parents have slept in the same bed with their children? What about comforting them in bed if they're sick with a fever or, God forbid, cancer? Is that pedophilia, or just love?

Children are innocent; the younger they get, the more innocent they become. In a world where many things seem as if they want us to grow up too fast, it is often nice to just sit back and take in that childhood innocence; whether it be climbing a tree, riding a ferris wheel or even opening up ones house to children.

I realize it is hard for some of you to accept the fact that a 45 year old man is allowing children to sleep in his room. Yet, is anything innapropriate taking place within that bedroom? Is it really that wrong to show this much love and compassion? I think not. Many people are too quick to judge; they hear the world "sleep" and immediately assume "having sex." Yet, allow me to put it this way: if everybody in the world were as loving as Michael Jackson; if everyone were as compassionate as Michael Jackson; if every single human being were just as willing to open up not only their house, not only their bed, but their heart as well; if we all had a big enough heart to accept this much innocence and precious beauty into our lives, then the world would be a better place to live.

Michael Jackson once wrote "What have I got that I can give?" We should all take these words in stride; we should all accept them with open arms.

I know that some of you must be laughing your asses off right now.

How fucking sad.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

I think any parent that let's their kid sleep over at MJ's should be charged with child neglect and reckless endangerment.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

By the way, what do you all think of Bush's very "welcome" visit to London and the fact the British embassy was bombed, killing scores of people yesterday?

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

how do you know it was the kid from the martin bashir documentary? very interesting indeed. when i watched the special, they acted like lovers. it was very disturbing.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

Amen!

Ron and Joseph, you're just spuing BS for the sake of spuing BS. Please shut up.

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

Innocent until proven guilty!

Something to note: The kid Mike showed up with at the World Music Awards in the early 90s ended up accusing him in 93.

Now the kid that was inthe Martin Bashir Special last March is accusing him.

I'm noticing a bit of a pattern here. All the allegations have come out shortly after these kids show up on TV with him. Why is that? Who is approaching them and their parents to come out with these allegations? How come no other kid (for instance someone who hasn't been on TV with him) has accused him of any thing? Interesting....

-- Anonymous, November 21, 2003

They'll find the pedophile books, videos, pictures hidden away in Never Never Land. That'll be the proof once and for all.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

a) Show me proof he has sex with children and b) if I were to allow young children to sleep-over in my room, that's my perogative. Just because I do doesn't mean we're all having sex.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

Thw world will be a safer place for children when this sick pedophile bastard gets put in jail.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

>> And alright: you think I'm strange. So what? I don't give a fuck about you. I don't live up to your standards of narmalcy? Who cares. I am who I am. You don't like it? Too fucking bad.

Well, good for you ... just don't go around telling people you sleep with children like MJ. You could get arrested, you know?

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

And alright: you think I'm strange. So what? I don't give a fuck about you.

I don't live up to your standards of narmalcy? Who cares. I am who I am. You don't like it? Too fucking bad.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

THESE questions, smart guy. If you bothered to actually read previous posts on this board, you would have seen them. 1) If he has sex with children, why would he admit to millions of people on television that he allows them to sleep in his room? 2) Show me any any damning evidence 3) What about the 12 year old kid with cancer? Why don't you tell him to go to Hell? Tell his mother; who, along with him, have moved because of the intense scrutiny 3) Soon after the allegations, MJ said that he would immediately turn himself in tomorrow for questioning. If he was guilty, why would he do this? And just for kicks, here are two new ones: 4) If the boy really was sexually molested, why would he accept money instead of going to court? One would think that a victim's #1 desire would be to put his molestor behind bars. Of course, I could be wrong. 5) Madonna let her baby crawl on a hotel balcony. Eric Clapton's son fell to his death because of Clapton's irresponsibility. Why didn't the press scrutinize them? Clapton's thing was obviously a lot worse than holding a baby -- and tightly -- over a railing. And Clapton did know there was an open window. He did allow his son to play near that open window. And rather than keeping an eye on him, the singer left his son near the window. And let him fall to his death. So, we criticize Jackson for tightly holding his baby over a hotel balcony (for which he publicly apologized). We don't criticize Clapton for allowing his son to play near an open window; and ultimately fall to his death. Yeah ... that makes sense.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

>>Stop making excuses and answer the questions. If you're so sure MJ is guilty without proof, then they should be a cinch.

Because your "questions" don't prove anything, and they are not even all questions. OK, Mr. Psychotic MJ fan? But I'll humor you.

>>1) I believe that Cher holds the record for the most plastic surgeries in Hollywood. Who not bitch about her?

Because, she's not the subject of this forum... because she hasn't slept with children and openly flaunted it... because she hasn't been arrested for pedophilic sex. I personally don't care whether MK had a million plastic surgeries or not. It's irrelevant.

>>2) Read these three articles taken off the internet: This is not a question.

>>3) Answer my previous questions. All of you. If you can't, all I can surmise is that you're nothing but closed-minded, gullible idiots who probably rely on fallacies for every aspect of your life and/or go around getting high all day while reading Penthouse and screwing yourselves.

Again, this is not a question.

What IS the question is the sanity of most MJ fans on this forum, ESPECIALLY yours.

However, it would make sense that MJ fans are crazy, because he obviously is. It probably validates some of your own strange likings and behavior.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

Stop making excuses and answer the questions. If you're so sure MJ is guilty without proof, then they should be a cinch.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

I would like to add that if there were serious consequences(jail sentences ,huge fines etc.) for accusers who were not able to prove their cases, I bet that there would be no accusations. These low lifes have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Why not? I also think that attorney's who take cases of this nature and lose should be held accountable in some way. Alot of times ,they are responsible for pursuing such frivolous cases if only for their own gain.I just read quite a bit of factual information on the last case and I am convinced that he was a victim of extortion. Does not surprise me that it is happening again. Wierd , he is...that does not make him a child molester. This world is screwed up. Jeff

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

< 3) Answer my previous questions. All of you. If you can't, all I can surmise is that you're nothing but closed-minded, gullible idiots who probably rely on fallacies for every aspect of your life and/or go around getting high all day while reading Penthouse and screwing yourselves. >

Why would reasonable arguments for MJ's alleged pedophilic tendencies make people "gullible idiots"? If anything, you only make MJ fans like yourself look like "closed-minded idiots."

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

1) I believe that Cher holds the record for the most plastic surgeries in Hollywood. Who not bitch about her? 2) Read these three articles taken off the internet:

Hunting Season Open: Ducks, Rabbits, Deer, Michael Jackson...

Some things in the media are very predictable, almost laughably so. Take the results of any reality TV dating program. Viewers know, long before the final rose is given out, who the Bachelor is going to choose. But because network bigwigs know how boring our own little lives are, they give us something to live for in the form of a "multinude" of bodies romancing via a hot tub. How considerate, how thoughtful, how ratings oriented.

How about the predictability of celebrities popping up in ads for everything from telephone service to Twix bars? Take Old Navy ads for example. I had still not figured out the whole Morgan Fairchild connection from last season, when what to my wondering eyes should appear? A Lil Kim rapper dressed up in ski gear. Lil Kim? Sweaters? Cargo pants? A bra? Yeah, I'm believing that this icon of "you are what you don't wear" is out clubbing in snow boots and a fleece hoodie.

OK, maybe I didn't see that coming, but there is one recent occurrence that simply has not surprised me at all. It was only a matter of time. A cyclical event, akin to full moons and celestial bodies. Only what is blinding me is not a solar eclipse, but the burning in effigy, once again, of a superstar.

Michael Jackson, accused of child molestation. And while the word accused should imply the pointing of a finger and what should be an "innocent until proven guilty" mentality, the media has done what they do best. They have displayed a willingness to forgo even a modicum of neutrality or objectivity, in favor of ratings. Sell the sizzle, not the steak guys, because when all is said and done, just like last time, that's all there is going to be.

As predictable as "Open Season" on Mr. Jackson has become, what is most notable is the fact that it has taken this long for another unscrupulous set of adults to emerge, willing to use a child for monetary gain. I mean what's a little pimping of your own child if you can grab millions of dollars? What it is, complete lack of evidence aside, is a very telling sign that some people are unscrupulous, unfeeling and undeserving to parent the children they exploit.

I said it last time, if I truly believed that someone had abused my child in any way, the only thing I would want are their eyeballs on a stick. No amount of money would ever make me "go away".

I don't think people realize how easy it is to level an allegation of this type and destroy a person's life. Anyone, at any time can go to authorities and accuse another person of molestation of a child. It is a serious, no tolerance crime, as well it should be, and one that must be taken seriously by prosecutors. And even in those instances when all investigations are exhausted and a person is proven innocent, the damage is irreversible.

But the dividends for the accuser can be just as life altering.

Millions of dollars are an appealing prospect to anyone, but personally I'd rather take my chances on a lottery ticket, not a person's life. Unfortunately for the people behind these current accusations, and I say people, because it is not the child spearheading this assault, they may have to settle for lottery tickets too. Michael Jackson will not throw money again to make people go away and regain some peace in his life. Once blackmailed, twice shy, you know. That's not to say he won't be found guilty of certain things. They will dig and find he is a serial humanitarian. They will investigate and come up with evidence to prove he is the 20th century's leading champion of children around the world. And they will run every forensic test possible and come up with the irrefutable proof that he is human, just like you and me. And in the end, they will once again discover, much to their embarrassment, that he is not guilty. So even though they have declared open season on Michael Jackson, they'd better watch how they take aim. Misloaded weapons have a way of backfiring.

Linda Sharp is an internationally published author and columnist. She may be reached via email at lsharp03@aol.com. Learn more about her at www.lindasharp.com.

Jackson Lawyer: Working On Case For Months

Forget all these stories that Mark Geragos was hired to represent Michael Jackson just yesterday. Or the day before. Were we all born yesterday? Geragos has been on the case since last March.

That's right. Jackson has known for most of the year, even if he didn't want to acknowledge it, that trouble was brewing at Neverland. The child who is now the subject of this molestation allegation began to raise questions about their relationship late last winter. Jackson -- who is not completely out of touch with reality -- responded by bringing in an expert defender.

Jackson's camp, I am told, is more than ready to do battle with his accuser and his family. I am told that the mother of the child involved will be held up to severe scrutiny. In fact, Jackson's side will likely argue that when he tried to break off his involvement with helping the boy and his family financially, the mother became, and I am quoting a Jackson insider, "a scorned woman."

"She's very screwed up," said one source. "There's videotape of her acting weird, too. And Michael was very kind to her, even getting an apartment for her boyfriend."

But the argument will be that when this woman, who is financially so dependent that she claimed to have lived in a barn, was told by Jackson's people that the party was over, she ran to a lawyer to see what she could get out of it.

Remember, everyone in this country is guaranteed a defense, even if you don' t agree with it.

But as I wrote in this space yesterday, a lot of the evidence in the Jackson case will come down to videotape. There is lots of it, too, some of which may show the boy and his family singing the praises of Jackson, defending and explaining his odd lifestyle. If so, they will be hard-pressed to explain their own behavior now. For example: In one interview last winter, the mother of the boy told a reporter: "Michael has pet names for all of my children, and [one of them] even calls him Daddy. He is the father they never had." She said all her children were "hoping to spend a lot more time with him in the future."

The sudden change in Jackson's schedule, by the way, throws a monkey wrench into his promotional plans for his new greatest hits album. Michael and his entourage were three days away from leaving for Paris and Berlin, where enthusiastic fans would have greeted him. Here in the U.S., the album has so far not made any of the early top 10 of the week lists at major retailers like Tower, Virgin or HMV.

And here's one big P.S. for all you Jackson watchers: Steer clear of on-camera commentators who are hustling their own gig on Jacko's back. I am talking about folks like Shmuley Boteach, Uri Geller and Brian Oxman, all of whom are quick to quip when the red light goes on, but know nothing about the case, Jackson or his alleged victim.

Source: foxnews.com

Smoke, but is there fire? By Robert Lusetich November 20, 2003

When news broke yesterday of a second allegation of child molestation against him, (Michael) Jackson inferred it was part of some conspiracy to derail his career, such as it is, because it coincided with the release of his latest album; a collection of his greatest hits, plus one new song, One More Chance, which has been virtually ignored by US radio stations.

Yet, being strange, especially in this culture, is not a crime.

Neither does it necessarily make Jackson a child molester.

It has been 10 years since the allegations first surfaced that Jackson had sexually molested a 13-year-old boy named Jordy Chandler.

Throughout the intervening years, one aspect of this case has proved particularly puzzling: Where are the other victims?

Until yesterday's news that Santa Barbara authorities – the same ones behind the investigation in 1993 – had swarmed to Jackson's ranch in the scenic Santa Ynez mountains, about a 90-minute drive north of Los Angeles, as part of an investigation into alleged sexual abuse of another boy, no other such claims have been made against Jackson.

Experts uniformly say pedophiles do not stop offending, and Jackson has admitted to having dozens of children stay with him at Neverland – and in some cases sleep in his bed – during those years.

Yet no other child has come forward, nor news been leaked of any secret pay-offs. Jackson took cruises and travelled the world with young boys, including actors Macaulay and Kieran Caulkin, yet those who have spoken publicly have expressed bemusement at the allegations against their benefactor.

According to Jackson, that is because he does not sexually abuse boys. "I have never and would never harm a child," he said earlier this year. "It sickens me that people have written things that portray me as a child abuser."

His lifestyle choices came into sharp focus earlier this year in a controversial documentary by British journalist Martin Bashir which revealed, among other things, that Jackson continued to allow children to sleep in his bed, although he slept on the floor.

"It's not sexual, we're going to sleep," Jackson says plaintively in the documentary, "I tuck them in ... it's very charming, it's very sweet."

Those around him say Jackson is innocent; that he is merely living the childhood denied to him by an abusive father who saw his sons as a fast track to fame and fortune and worked them to the point of exhaustion and physical harm.

"He never had a childhood," says Bert Fields, perhaps the most powerful lawyer in Hollywood, who once represented Jackson. "He is having one now. His buddies are 12-year-old kids. They have pillow fights and food fights."

Two of his brothers, Marlon and Jermaine, have expressed scepticism about the allegations, Marlon equating them to "a modern-day lynching".

"They can go and talk to these children all they want," says Jermaine, "They're not going to find anything. What they need to do is leave him alone."

One of Jackson's close friends, the psychic and famous spoon-bender Uri Geller, yesterday also sprang to Jackson's defence. "I'm a father and I would never associate myself with anyone who'd do anything with a child," he says.

Geller characterised Jackson as "gullible, innocent, maybe a little confused".

Former New York police detective Lou Palumbo, who now runs a celebrity security service in Los Angeles, urged caution, too: "We have had allegations brought against him before. Let's not rush to judgment. This could just be another allegation from someone who wants money from him."

The great tragedy of Chandler's case was that, if he really was abused by Jackson, his father set the price for his son's loss of innocence at $US20 million.

Geraldine Hughes, a legal secretary who worked on Chandler's case, is reportedly writing a book about the affair in which she allegedly implicates Evan Chandler, an unstable Beverly Hills dentist who yearned to be a Hollywood screenwriter, and his lawyer, Barry Rothman, who has a history of unscrupulous practices, in a scheme to extort money from Jackson by "encouraging" Jordy's allegations.

A 1994 investigation by GQ magazine raised similar suspicions, discovering that the boy only made the allegations after he had been injected by a dental anaesthetist with a powerful barbituate, sodium amytal, which is mistakenly believed to act as a truth serum.

That magazine also uncovered a taped conversation in which Chandler claims: "Michael's career will be over . . . it will be a massacre if I don't get what I want."

What he wanted, clearly, was money, because after settling out of court with Jackson in 1994, Evan Chandler refused to co-operate with the criminal case being brought against Jackson over his son's allegations, effectively killing it.

Although Evan and Jordy Chandler have remained silent – as would undoubtedly have been the terms of their legal settlement with Jackson, who said he settled to avoid a media circus – Jordy's uncle, Raymond Chandler, has since claimed that Jackson set up Neverland to seduce young boys.

"It's part of the sickness," he has said, "that he doesn't think he was doing anything wrong. For him, it was all milk and cookies."

But it is difficult to take such claims seriously if those making them have not tried to stop Jackson.

It should also be remembered that Jackson has fared well in court against people making accusations.

In 1995, four ex-bodyguards who claimed they were fired because they knew about his alleged clandestine affairs with young boys had their case thrown out of an LA court. It was the fifth court case Jackson had won in what his lawyer Zia Modabber called attempted "shakedowns".

"People think that if you file a lawsuit against Michael, he will be an easy target," she said five years ago, after winning $2.7 million from a paparazzo who claimed he'd seen a videotape – which did not exist – of Jackson having sex with a young boy. "But they are wrong. We're tired of him getting dogged. We're not settling. We're going to trial and winning," says Modabber.

Diane Dimond, the former tabloid TV journalist whose Jackson "scoops" over the years have somehow avoided the attention of the Pulitzer Prize judges, said yesterday her inside sources say the family of the boy in these latest allegations is not interested in money but in justice.

The coming days will tell.

3) Answer my previous questions. All of you. If you can't, all I can surmise is that you're nothing but closed-minded, gullible idiots who probably rely on fallacies for every aspect of your life and/or go around getting high all day while reading Penthouse and screwing yourselves.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

I am neither a fan nor a hater of Michael Jackson. I think it is ridiculous however for the public to think they can make judgement calls on whether someone they know nothing about, (other than the highly fabricated, for the sake of greed, information that the media provides), committed a crime that is of such serious nature. Just like Danie Letrow's article, it is clear how the case is far from being black and white. If MJ is guilty he shouldn't go unpunished for being famous and wealthy, by the same token he should not be ostrocized for the same reasons. I feel very badly for him and his family whether this is true or not. I hope justice is served.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

Only MJ and the kids know the truth. Keep in mind what was mentioned on Love Line last night - people like MJ slowly get rid of negative people around them. So over time, people like MJ end up with only "yes" men around them, who don't question anything. Off the wall had some great songs on it - Thriller and every album thereafter have been overproduced.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

I do believe michael jackson is very odd, that just makes him an easier target. I would like to think he is innocent, but how would I know? He certainly seems to be a very caring individual and helps many charities and people in need without expecting anything in return. That should tell people something about his character, but there are many other aspects of him that seem too strange for me to try to understand. Niether make him guilty or innocent. The present media/press should never be believed in my opinion, they know nothing and are misinformed constantly and they pass this right on to the public , the more sensational sounding the better. I do not believe the Chandler story as no amount of money would buy my or my childs silence if someone molested my child.The acceptance of monetary payment to me, simply proved that he was extorted. That is not a way to make someone who is as wealthy as Michael Jackson pay for such a hideous act if it were true. The past allegation and end result (monetary settlement) also might just make some other greedy scum surface and do the same. I am not saying he is innocent or guilty of this present charge, I guess we will see in the future what is decided in the courts. If a money settlement is accepted, I believe he is innocent. You must admit.... he is a very easy target to the cockroaches that walk the face of our planet. If you were financially able, would you not pay some one making accusations of this nature money to go away and let you continue with your life. Money can always be made. You can not however, pay anyone a sufficient amount of money to compensate for such an indecent act upon your child. This is why the family in the last incident has no credibility. I do not have money and Michael Jackson could never offer me enough if I believed he molested my daughter. Granted , he has made a bad decision continuing relationships with children after the last incident, I know that I would not have . But then again, doesn't that just make this kids case sound that much stronger according to to some pond scum attorney who will take a case like this pro bono in order to be called next time Halle Berry gets a d.u.i.? Think about this people.... there is alot of shit around here and it stinks pretty bad to me. I am glad I am rich and famous. But if I was I would pay dearly to be advised to not make the stupid mistakes that Michael Jackson has in the past. This is America, he is innocent until proven guilty. This world is full of scum... I hope he is not part of it. By the way, I am not a M.J. fan, just a citizen that would like to believe the system works once in a while. Jeff

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

are you people fucking mad?MJ is a perverted man, a Child Molestor, A fornicator of simians, He is Also guilty of tonguing out his pet pig....what sort of person feels sorry for MJ? Another child molsetor or someone with those tendencies .DO YOU HAVE THOSE TENDECIES?

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

The biggest mistake you MJ defenders are making (besides your spelling and grammar, that is) is thinking he's subject to the rules of normal behavior and humanity. Take a look; the guy paid to have people whittle his face unrecognizable. This is not the behavior of a normal---or even sane---person. As for the first child molestation charge, if he wasn't guilty, he wouldn't have paid. Period. No one would have. This time, he screwed. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't take his own life.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

I wouldn't be afraid to sleep over at MJ's house. Nor would I be afraid to let my kids -- if I had kids -- to sleep there (if they so desired).

If young children wanted to spend the night in my room, I honestly wouldn't mind. I like young children and would never ever have sex w/them (I know it's a shocker: an adult that doesn't want to have sex with kids that sleep over).

I'm sure I do things that some people may consider "wierd," "abnormal" or "out-of-the-ordinary." But, frankly, my dears, "I don't give a damn." I am who I am, and who gives a crap if that doesn't rock your boat.

Hey ... guess what? I watch Arthur and Berenstain Bears! I love Peanuts, Scooby Doo, Sesame Street, Mister Rogers, The Smurfs, and Alvin & the Chipmunks! I am a guy who loves Dawson's Creek, Full House, Care Bears, Saved by the Bell, Buffy and Life with Ginger! I actually own Sesame Street DVD's! Pretty de-ranged, huh? ^^)

Be more God damn open-minded, y'all.

-- Anonymous, November 20, 2003

I think we need to look past the artist. We have to see him as a person, respect his right to speak. We have done that we have looked past the allegations already seen the best of Micheal Jackson his entourage of fame, love for children, allowed it.

We need to start looking at Micheal Jackson and also those who are acclaiming that they are victims of abuse by him. The Second allegation has been made by again another child will we wait to be possibly mistaken for his own children to speak.

Let it be his children that he protects, hides from the public speak. I am not condoning these allegations but I am saying that it is quite possible that we could be mistaken. It has happened in the past where other musicians, actors have been convicted of such a crime let it be said that it doesnt matter who you are any allegation of molestation should be treated more seriously then the history this man has painted for us all..

Some factors to consider: he has lived in an abusive family his sister has conveyed that she was molested by there father.. it is repetitive for the abused to become an abuser if he has never learned how to deal with past abuse.

- The Neverland ranch makes him appeal to the public as a father figure which he has conveyed he has never had he seemingly attracts children of broken marriages where one part being the father has divorced the mother ie) broken homes.. giving the lesser a weakness, advantage over the other being the child where they might see that Micheal is a father to them for a certain period of time.

- He admittedly allows 13yr old children to sleep in his own bed claiming it is sweet, subtle. What part is Micheal Jackson playing?

Kelly

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

Shut the fuck up, Patrick. Burn in Hell? Wow ... you have an open mind. 1) If he has sex with children, why would he admit to millions of people on television that he allows them to sleep in his room? 2) Show me any any damning evidence 3) What about the 12 year old kid with cancer? Why don't you tell him to go to Hell? Tell his mother; who, along with him, have moved because of the intense scrutiny 3) Soon after the allegations, MJ said that he would immediately turn himself in tomorrow for questioning. If he was guilty, why would he do this? And so soon? 4) Do you want those details of Garth Brooks molesting me or not? He really did.

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

Well Daniel, what do you think of your idol now? Still think he was an innocent victim of extortion? I warned you that it was only a matter of time before someone else brought forth new charges. Now that time has come.

It seems the accuser in this case is going to take MJ to court, rather than go after money. And the accuser is willing to testify. Now you'll have to eat your own words, including that now embarrassingly dated GQ article.

Burn in hell MJ, you child molesting freak.

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

It is possible for MJ to be both 1) an idolized performance artist and 2) a pedophile. These are not mutually exclusive things. Just because Michael is famous and loved, does not clear him of innocence.

Some of the responses from fans here are rather disturbing, probably because many of them are disturbed themselves.

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

Lightning never strikes twice so they say well another allegation has arisen is it true or false well do you thing the police will make the same mistake twice or is there truth in the whole matter well you know the sayin "therse no smoke without a fire" make your own mind up

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

I agree that Michael Jackson did not do any of the things that they said he did in 1993. And, as you all know, it is ludacris that this whole scenario may begin again, as today the media announced that Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch is being searched once again! All I can say is that if these ignorant people try to hurt him again, then that is just foolish! He is a good man! I mean, you don't even have to know anything about him to realize that! Just look at his eyes, you know? you can tell...By the way, I think that this is just all ironic, isn't it- I mean, having this happen again, right after he makes a very rare appearance at the VMA? I don't know, it just all seems like another "set-up."

-- Anonymous, November 19, 2003

OMG, I can't believe it ... but ... oh God ... here I go ... a few years ago, after one of his concerts, I had backstage passes, and Garth Brooks sexually molested me.

Patrick, if you want, I can e-mail you a detailed description of what happened.

-- Anonymous, October 28, 2003

He "did" major in business.

Of course, being a former fan, I guess you already knew that.

-- Anonymous, October 18, 2003

And Mike isn't bankrupt. In fact, he's releasing a new greatest hits cd soon, star in a CBS special, and debut a clothing line next year in Japan.

-- Anonymous, October 15, 2003

Excuse me, but the last paragraph in my previous post is not repeating myself.

Read it. Don't be so closed-minded.

-- Anonymous, October 12, 2003

You seem to be repeating yourself Daniel. I think the fact that you were never able to answer my questions amidst that long rant speaks volumes.

It's clear that I'll never convince you of MJ's culpability, your buying into MJ's cult is too strong. I hope though that MJ himself will eventually convince you. In time I suspect that MJ will bankrupt himself with his free spending ways and then will no longer be able to buy or blackmail his victims into silence.

-- Anonymous, October 11, 2003

What if MJ isn't a child molester; that he just has unconditional love for all children? I tell you, if I was able, I wouldn't be afraid to do what he's doing (Allowing children sleep over in his house if they so desire & if their parents approve). Did it ever occur to you that he's "not" molesting children? Did it ever occur to you that his donating of well over $100 mill to charity is out of pure Godly love and not some strange twisted sexual desire? His last charity, Heal the Kids, got screwed by one of Mike's closest friends, so he is unveiling a new charity later this year. He visits hospitals everywhere he goes, showers disadvantaged kids with toys and helps provide the homeless with blankets and pillows. He is listed in Guinness as having donated to the most charities. And he pays for funerals. Is it entirely possible that there exists at least one human being on Earth who appears to be as loving, compassionate and, most of all, misunderstood as Jesus? Yes -- and his name is Michael Jackson. No, Mike is not Jesus. But, he is very much like him. Jesus possessed an unconditional love for children, a love so strong and true that the majority of those around him could not understand it. He saw life through different eyes; on a much deeper level; and for this he was tortured and left for dead. Yet, do we question the motives of this man? Or can we, as fellow human beings, search deep within ourselves to feel what he felt; to see what he saw; to be touched in a way that it almost hurts? Can we, as fellow human beings, accept such a man today?

Michael Jackson is not a pedophile; there is no proof. There is, however, plenty of proof that he's innocent, ie the thorough investigation described in GQ or the simple fact that photos of MJ's genitals do not match the descriptions given to authorities by the boy. Police even investigated Neverland and found absolutely no sign or signs of any wrongdoing on Michael's part. If you are taking the fact that he sleeps next to children as proof of the man being a pedophile, Did you ever consider that the man might just be a little more loving and compassionate than you or I? They -- the children -- request to spend the night in his room; he complies. So what? He sees nothing wrong with it, and neither do the parents. Just because everybody all might sleep in the same bed does not automatically make them a pedophile. How many parents have slept in the same bed with their children? What about comforting them in bed if they're sick with a fever or, God forbid, cancer? Is that pedophilia, or just love? Children are innocent; the younger they get, the more innocent they become. In a world where many things seem as if they want us to grow up too fast, it is often nice to just sit back and take in that childhood innocence; whether it be climbing a tree, riding a ferris wheel or even opening up ones house to children.

I realize it is hard for you to accept the fact that a 44 year old man is allowing children to sleep in his room. Yet, Is anything innapropriate taking place within that bedroom? Is it really that wrong to show this much love and compassion? I think not. Many people are too quick to judge; they hear the world "sleep" and immediately assume "having sex." Yet, allow me to put it this way: If everybody in the world were as loving as Michael Jackson; if everyone were as compassionate as Michael Jackson; if every single human being were just as willing to open up not only their house, not only their bed, but their heart as well; if we all had a big enough heart to accept this much innocence and precious beauty into our lives, then the world would be a better place to live.

Michael Jackson once wrote "What have I got that I can give?" We should all take these words in stride; we should all accept them with open arms.

There is strong evidence that he's innocent. There is no evidence that he's guilty. A detailed search of MJ's body ... two thorough searches of Neverland Ranch ... all turning up nothing ... the taped phone conversations by Jordy's father ... a former employee who admitted to lying to police about "suspicious" happenings in MJ's house...

Show me the evidence that he's guilty. If you take the simple affedeved and nothing more as hard evidence -- hey, I could get one saying that Steven Tyler molested me, and that would be enough to prove that he's guilty? If the GQ article is biased, what's so God damn biased about it? Presenting clear facts, and sorting them out to prove ones innocence, is not biased.

You clearly hate MJ for some reason. Why? I don't know. But don't say he's guilty just for the sake of it. Hell, if we could do that, thousands more innocent people would be in prison.

You know what? I'm in college; yet I love Disneyland (and yes, I adore the "kiddy" attractions in Fantasyland), Universal Studios, Marine World and Great America (The Nickelodeon area is, IMO, the cutest part of the park). I love Garfield, Looney Tunes, Jetsons, Flinstones, the Smurfs, and Alvin & the Chipmunks. I love Arthur (yes, I admit it), the Berenstain Bears and Scooby Doo. I am a huge Jim Henson fan and love Sesame Street and the Muppets. My fav Nintendo character is Mario; I like being around young children (ie the innocence; reminiscent of my own childhood, back to a simpler time; before companies who don't give a damn about the customer and the $6.00 stadium burger); and, just like MJ, I love stylish clothing (Versace, Prada, Bernini, Armani, Gucci, etc). I'm also a fan of shows such as DAWSON'S CREEK and BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER. And Mister Rogers is, and always will be, one of my favorite celebrities. Oh ... and I would never sexually molest a child.

1) If a child asked if he/she could sleepover in my room, and if the parents comply, I would be fine with it. Hey -- I have a TV, VCR, Super Nintendo and a DVD-Rom; we'd have plenty to keep us occupied! Get snacks and have a party ... scarf down milk and cookies ... what's wrong with that? Now ... uhhh ... if they wanna watch tv and listen to music in their underwear ... ooooooooookay ^^)

2) Who the Hell cares about the masks? Mike's kids don't. It is revealed in the Take 2 special that they "don't" care, seeing it as a game and nothing more. The children are very happy, giggling and playing as children do. Towards the end of the MJ HOME MOVIES, while YOU ARE MY LIFE is playing, Paris is asked what she'd like to be when she grows up. Her answer? "Like my daddy."

3) The balcony "incident" happened months ago. This was not the first time a celebrity has made foolish parental decisions, but MJ's was the first to be heavily criticized. Hmmm ... I wonder why? MJ apologized.

What would it take to prove to you that MJ is a good father? Debbie Rowe says he is ... his brothers say he is ... Janet has said he is ... his employees say he is. A while back, Madonna let her baby crawl on a hotel balcony. Yet it wasn't nationally covered. Why? Cause she's Madonna.

Bottom line: there is no hard evidence of molestation. Period. Nobody will ever know the "entire" truth about everything; and people will continue to accuse other people of lying and cheating; and thus, nobody will ever know anything.

I will continue to love Michael Jackson for who he is: a warm, caring, compassionate human being. He is the best dancer in the world, one of its best singers, and one of the most generous celebrities -- Hell, people -- on Earth. When it all comes down to it, he will always remain one of my idols. Despite the criticism thrown at him each day, his music, poetry and generous, sweet and sensitive nature will always remain close to my heart.

Think what you will about him. And I'll think what I will: here is a very unique individual; one that people don't, and can't, understand. And so they berade him; call him names; refer to him as "wacko." Like Jesus, they cannot fathom even the remote possibility that all of this is true: a man of such pure God-given innocence; in possesion of such an awesome gift; one that lies beyond our wildest hopes, dreams and imaginations. A power that can make the homeless smile; give the bed-ridden hope; cause the cancer-stricken to laugh; and bring joy to the developmentally disabled.

In the end, I'm not going to pronounce sentence. All I know for certain is who he is. And think what you will about him, but Michael Jackson is truly something special.

Now ... if you think what I just wrote is a bunch of bullshit, and you're laughing your ass off right now, and you won't accept being more open-minded, no offense, but you need to actually think more deeply about this.

The GQ article interviewed neither pro nor anti MJ people. The reporter has quotes from both sides, but she didn't technically "interview" anyone. She went in with the question "Was MJ framed?" She gathered all the evidence she could. Yes, she probably did go in with a motive, as most reporters, investigative or not, do. Drug dealings, prostitution, illegal brothels, whatever. During the OJ case, there were articles and essays asking "Did OJ do it," with the reporters and authors going in with the question "Did OJ do it?" So, yes, by yyour logic, all investigative reports are biased. And yes, by your insinuations, all of these reports should be taken as BS. I get you? Damn investigative journalists, huh? They're a bunch of two-timing, bullshitting frauds who should pay for their insolence. Right? Am I right? Wrong. Am I wrong? Whatever.

-- Anonymous, October 11, 2003

How do I know about the other victims, the child porno, and Jordy's description matching up? From the msn article. Unlike the GQ article, it actually interviews the man behind the child abuse investigation. This is not "circumstancial" evidence. It also interviews some pro-MJ people, proving that it's not biased.

Did I think Michael was capable of molesting a child back when I was a fan? No, but then I never knew much about his private life. When the scandal broke out I heard about how MJ had built a childlike amusement park into his home, how he holds "sleepovers" for young children, how he always has several children in tow with him, how he always grabs himself in concerts. I said to myself: "That's a pedophile." I had an excuse for being naive back in '93, not so any more.

Now it's your turn Daniel. If you want to continue this debate, you've got to answer my questions.

-- Anonymous, October 09, 2003

How do you know all this? Did you perform a thorough investigation of your own? Do you ever believe investigative reports? After all, they're all circumstantial; and you automatically dismiss the article from GQ, despite the amount of research that went into it. If the facts the reporter uncovered pointed towards guilt, it'd be one thing; but everything points towards innocence. And when you were a fan, did you believe MJ was very capable of sexually molesting a child? Answer "all" of these questions.

-- Anonymous, October 07, 2003

Very well Daniel, here are the problems with the GQ article.

1. The article claims that only one child has brought sex abuse allegations against MJ. Not so. Two other children have disclosed sexual abuse. There are probably many more.

2. The article claims that the abuse charges stemmed from a custody battle between the family. In fact it's the other way around, Evan Chandler filed for custody when he learned his son was being sexually abused by Michael and the mother wouldn't believe him.

3. The article admits to many things that would point to MJ's guilt. His showering Jordy with gifts, sleepovers at Neverland, taking the kids on tour(!), these are all paedophiliac symptoms. Pedophiles take the time to groom their victims, gain the trust of the parents, and lure the kids. To this day we continue to see MJ dragging four or five unnamed children with him on tour.

4. The article drags out sad stories about Michael's childhood to explain his behaviour. This is shameful and irrelevant. Being abused in childhood does not give one the right to abuse children in adulthood. Pedophiles often appear to be like children in adult bodies. MJ's other siblings were also abused, yet did not grow up to be pedophiles.

5. The article claims it's suspicious that Chandler turned to a lawyer rather than the police. In fact, Chandler took his son to a psychiatrist and a child abuse investigator, both of whom agreed Jordy's story was credible and not coaxed.

6. The tape which you claim proves Chandler's guilt actually hints at his honesty. Chandler expresses concern for his son and anger at MJ and his wife for refusing to believe. Who wouldn't want to "ruin" MJ after he had ruined your son?

7. The article interviews people, but shamelessly plays up the pro- MJ people while villanizing the anti-MJ camp. It even quotes sources that are not named. It also highlights phrases that support the authors conclusions, something no unbiased article would do.

8. The article claims Jordy's description of MJ was inaccurate, when in fact it was not. Jordy's description DID match up as the msnbc article proves.

9. The article claims that Jordy was drugged to get a false confession. On its own this might be true, but Jordy was also taken to a psychiatrist and a child abuse investigator who both found his story credible.

10. The article claims MJ was too emotionally fragile to fight the charges in court. MJ wasn't too emotionally fragile to fight to numerous lawsuits filed against him in recent years. Why couldn't he fight a single unsubstantiated sex abuse charge?

Now that I've answered you Daniel, it's your turn to answer me.

-- Anonymous, October 06, 2003

Answer mine first or we'll just quit this debate.

Read my lengthy post from a while back. None of us are gonna win. You'll never convince me and I'll never convince you. There is a hell of a lot of reason/evidence for him to be innocent, but you don't care.

So ... neither of us will win.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2003

Answer my questions Daniel. Do that and I'll answer yours.

-- Anonymous, October 03, 2003

By your logic, the majority of investigative reports are circumstantial. Hell, the msnbc thing is. Both that and the gq article contain quotes. The difference? Well, if you can't figure that out, you're dumber tahn I thought.

-- Anonymous, October 01, 2003

Daniel, it's the GQ article that uses circumstancial evidence, not hard. I've answered every one of your posts. Now you've got to answer mine.

What was child porno doing in Michael Jackson's room? Why did he need to have an alarm? Why did former MJ employees speak out against him? Why did MJ's sister LaToya speak out against him? Why did the police say other boys have disclosed sexual abuse? How did Jordy fool both the psychiatrist and child abuse investigator?

Answer me this and I'll answer your latest post. This time it's your turn.

-- Anonymous, September 30, 2003

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2943/framed.html http://galileo.spaceports.com/~mjwizard/artykul/gq3.html First read these. Then, show me evidence. Not weak circumstantial, but hard. Finally, go through each instance described in the gq article and tell me why they're 1) false and 2) biased. Until you do "all" of this, I will not respond. And if you can't do "all" of it, I'll automatically assume that you've been spewing a load of BS the past few months.

-- Anonymous, September 29, 2003

Why did Evan Chandler take the money instead of going to court? He didn't. His son Jordy was the one who chose to settle. A better question is why Jordy chose to accept the money if his friendship with Michael was really so innocent.

Actually, Evan may well have responded to the GQ article. After the MJ case was settled, Evan filed another lawsuit against saying MJ has used his web of spin doctors to spread unfounded stories about him (the GQ article?). The lawsuit couldn't go forward because Jordy wouldn't testify. Jordy's uncle though HAS in fact spoken out on behalf of his nephew. In the past, MJ's spin doctors also spread the rumours that MJ sleeps in an oxygen chamber and has the bones of the elephant man.

The GQ article does use quotes and interviews, but the author also makes conclusions that no unbiased reporter would make. You still haven't answered my questions about what child porno was doing in MJ's room, why other children brought sexual abuse charges against MJ, and why MJ is dishing out money to the parents of his victims.

-- Anonymous, September 27, 2003

Show me proof; that's all I ask. If the father is innocent, why then did he have "no comment" after the article in GQ came out? If he is innocent, why did he accept the money instead of fighting the person who supposedly hurt and traumatized his own flesh and blood? If he is innocent, explain to me how each of those points in the GQ article are false. If he is innocent, why didn't -- and doesn't -- he speak out more?

Hell -- if my child were molested, I would.

And most importantly, why do you put this msnbc article -- which interviews a few people -- over the GQ one, which provides many quotes, intervies and detail by detail, day by day, minute by minute accounts?

Answer me these, and all of these. Not only one or two and avoiding the rest, which you have done before.

-- Anonymous, September 27, 2003

Mark, the boy's description DID match up to the police investigation. Read the msnbc article I posted a link to. The psychiatrist and child abuse investigator have said they found the boy's story credible and not made up. Michael chose to dish out 15 million dollars to the boy's family when he could have easily fought the charges in court and won, had he been innocent.

The Chandler boy is not the only child to disclose sexual abuse against MJ, others have too. Kids, stupid or otherwise do not lie about sexual abuse.

-- Anonymous, September 26, 2003

MJ did not do anything wrong. ever since he was ecused of molesting a child. if the descriptions dont match then that stupid kid is lying. i dont know y someone would want to do that

-- Anonymous, September 25, 2003

Either back up your stuff with examples and evidence, or shut up. Read all of my previous posts ... and actually think about what you're saying

-- Anonymous, September 17, 2003

Michael Jackson is hella gay and will rot in hell for being a child molesting, freakish pedophile. He's obsessed with children, boys to be exact, and trys to pull the "no one undertsands me" card all the time. We understand Mike. We understand that you're sick and you need all the help you can get. Leave the little boys alone, you see how you ruined Macauly. Just die already.

-- Anonymous, September 11, 2003

Sorry i did not know what came over I just want to know the truth

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Earlier, you implied that you understood my last lengthy post and that you wanted to stop this debate.

Who do you wanna start up again?

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

whats the matter bitch you have nothing to say? thought so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

i'm Sorry did I annoy you? don't care go ahead keep on believing his lies!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Nevermind

Just shut up

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

and why would you think that i also thought Jesus had sex with children? have you lost your mind? wonder what has gone into that damn head of yours!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

who?

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Whatever

You probably think Jesus had sex with children, too

Let's stop this debate. We're not getting anywhere, and it's apparent that you don't "get" my last lengthy post.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

his weird I don't even know why you put up with him! oh yeah i also think his a pedophile!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

This is directed towards Patrick, BTW

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

you mean thats my opinion?

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

No; not because I can't, but because I won't. I don't wanna continue this bitch-fest.

Consider what I said above. If you won't, or can't, then that's your problem.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

wow!!!!!!! you really do care for him! well thats your opinion

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Answer my question Daniel.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Look, I don't wanna keep arguing about this crap. Frankly, I'm sick of it. Bottom line: there is no hard evidence. Period. Nobody will ever know the "entire" truth about everything; and people will continue to accuse other people of lying and cheating; and thus, nobody will ever know anything.

I will continue to love Michael Jackson for who he is: a warm, caring, compassionate human being. He is the best dancer in the world, one of its best singers, and one of the most generous celebrities -- Hell, people -- on Earth. When it all comes down to it, he will always remain one of my idols. Despite the criticism thrown at him each day, his music, poetry and generous, sweet and sensitive nature will always remain close to my heart.

Think what you will about him. And I'll think what I will: here is a very unique individual; one that people don't, and can't, understand. And so they berade him; call him names; refer to him as "wacko." Like Jesus, they cannot fathom even the remote possibility that all of this is true: a man of such pure God-given innocence; in possesion of such an awesome gift; one that lies beyond our wildest hopes, dreams and imaginations. A power that can make the homeless smile; give the bed-ridden hope; cause the cancer- stricken to laugh; and bring joy to the developmentally disabled.

In the end, I'm not going to pronounce sentence. All I know for certain is who he is. And think what you will about him, but Michael Jackson is truly something special.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm not playing a game his right about that we all are you just did not get to know Michael! you don't know him Daniel so you can't say if he's innocent or not you little whore

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Well what do you expect Daniel? If La Toya's family has decided to blackball her there is not much she can do about it. It's true La Toya can't prove the checks were payoffs, but the fact that MJ needed to send checks to his victims is pretty suspicious. MJ's family has decided to be silent about MJ's pedophilia as it would reflect badly on them. La Toya dared to break that silence. Therefore La Toya became "the bad guy".

You still haven't answered my question about the child porno and why Evan Chandler filed a lawsuit for which he didn't receive any money. Or how the kid managed to fool a seasoned child abuse investigator.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

You keep on saying that I'm hard to convince, and yet you have done nothing to convince, or even try to convince, me. You talk a good game, but you don't know how to play.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

this is Hopeless and I don't wanna answer your damn questins cuz its true

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

From mjcafe.net: "Her proof for the many provocative claims she has made about her family in the past few years is slim, and she has been contradicted regularly by other family members. For instance, sisters Rebbie and Janet have both publicly denied the sexual abuse that in 1991 LaToya avowed her father had inflicted on the Jackson daughters. In December 1993, LaToya claimed at a press conference in Israel that MJ was guilty of child molestation; she repeated these claims on the US TV show "Today" and added that her mother had once shown her canceled checks that represented payoffs to past victims. When challenged by anchorwoman Katie Couric, she then admitted she had no evidence of misbehavior on her brother's part, and she had no idea what the canceled checks had really been for. LaToya further alleged on tabloid TV shows in the US that Michael behaved suspiciously by having young boys in his room at Hayvenhurst for hours at a time; Margaret Maldonado has revealed that the young boys MJ had had in his room were only his nephews Taj, Taryll, and T.J., and the so- called suspicious behavior was nothing more than playing video games and watching movies. LaToya has often been called upon recently by tabloids to expound on events in Michael's life, but the views she has given are probably of little worth, since in late January 1996, she admitted on the US tabloid TV program "Inside Edition" that she hasn't seen Michael in years."

And answer my previous questions

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

I've shown you the proof Daniel. Read the msnbc article. The police found child porno and an alarm at MJ's Neverland Ranch. The investigator who investigated MJ has said he believes the boy's story is credible and not coaxed. What's more, Evan Chandler never received a penny of the settlement. The money went into a trust fund for the boy until he was old enough. This makes it double unlikely that Evan would make up charges against MJ because he was having money problems.

I don't know what sources you are reading as you don't back them up, but the information you gave me is false. MJ's security guards never testified in court as MJ's case never went to court. And they did not lie for money. They told their story to the press and only later agreed to tell it to Hard Copy for money.

Much of the family abuse in La Toya's book has been documented, therefore is not made up. And La Toya has always spoken kindly of her brother and her brother of her, right up until the scandal. Even when La Toya spoke out against her brother she said she loved him and that Michael needed help. This does not sound like a spiteful woman who is out to get her brother.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

LaToya has lied about her family before; she even published an entire book on them that she later admitted to being a bunch of BS.

Two of MJ's security gaurds who testified against him in courts later admitted to lying for money.

I ask ... where is the hard evidence? If I told the police that Bon Jovi had molested me; if I wrote a blistering account of it, that would not count as proof.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

The "proof" Daniel lies in the smoking gun document. Read it.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Answer my questions.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

you are some weird piece of shit!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

The scandal has proof? Show me!

Hey, Celine Deion molested me! Is that enough proof for you that she did?

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

what more proof do you need damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

I use to be a fan of him but now I heard about the scandal about him i decided I don't wanna be a fan of him anymore!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Whatever, Patrick

Did you think the same thing when you were a fan?

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Daniel i'm Talking about Michael not u!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

yeah i know he also knows

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

It is Michael Jackson, not you who is an accused pedophile Daniel. Michael Jackson most definitely fits the profile of a pedophile.

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

^^ )

You haven't answered my question. In your mind, do I fit the profile of a molestor?

-- Anonymous, August 23, 2003

Another thing, haven't you ever noticed that the company MJ chooses to hang out with is white boys? Like many pedophiles, MJ is attracted to white children due to their perceived "pureness" and "innocence (MJ's own words), even going to the point of having his own skin colour changed through some kind of de-pigmenting process. Michael's sisters have both said they were molested by their father, and LaToya has said that MJ himself was molested at some point.

You really ought to read "Michael Jackson Unauthorized". I did, which is why the more recent documentary revelations came as no surprise to me. Also read the smoking gun document http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html until you understand it.

Daniel, I am not insensitive and naive. If you really want to prove yourself sensitive, how about writing to Evan and Jordy Chandler and apologizing for calling them liars and slanderers. It would be nice if for once somebody believed the victim instead of the victimizer. It is Michael Jackson who is the wacko.

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

phedophiles were mostly abuse by there Father when they were young just like Michael! when they get older they become Different they don't act like Normal Adults they act like there children who needs help well they need help so thats the reason he turned out like that

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

So, MJ is abused by his father and thus automatically has sex with young children.

Yeah ... victims of abuse all grow up to be sexual molestors ... that makes sense ^^)

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

you Already got the Answer to that question First of all phedophiles are abuse by there Fathers they grow up without any Child hood they never Experience whats it like being a child they don't grow up like Normal Adults they wanna hang out with children most specially boys they act like there a Friend of a child they hang out with them play video games watch movies plays with the child phedofiles can also get away from what there doing they like to have sex with boys they like to musterbate why don't you check out site about phedofiles know what they really are

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

how me proof, then. Show me proof

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

Shut up you Annoying shit!!!!!!!!!!! Michael has got to be the weirdest piece of shit i ever seen no dah!!!!!!!!!!! your one of those dumb people who believes his lies

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

Whatver...

You are both insensitive individuals who cannot grasp the possibility that what I said in my last post is true; that somebody could be so sensitive and caring. You are both naive fools who don't know anything, who are closed-minded, and who are inconsiderate of others. If Jesus were alive today, you'd probably accuse him of having sex with children.

Wakkos. Jerks. Idiots.

Read my last post. In your twisted minds, do I fit the profile of someone who has sex with children?

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

uuuhhhhhhh Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm on your side patrick Daniel is just a whore who's dumb enough to Believe that fucking gay ass bitch!!!!!!!!!!! I sure hope he dies in a painful and bloody Death

-- Anonymous, August 22, 2003

Daniel, MJ is not sharing his bed to "comfort" children. He is doing it to satisfy his own psychological needs, which is pedophilia. A child requesting to share his/her bed with his/her parents is not the same thing as emotionally blackmailing hundreds of children to get into MJ's own bed. And MJ's dangling his son out the balcony would seem to discredit the idea that he is a "compassionate" person.

I think it unintentionally hilarious that you call me a God damn idiot. I'm not the one who claimed MJ paid a 15 million dollar settlement to dismiss a case against him which had no evidence, in your own words. When years from now MJ is proven guilty, we'll see who the God damn idiot is.

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2003

Just because everybody all might sleep in the same bed does not automatically make them a pedophile. How many parents have slept in the same bed with their children? What about comforting them in bed if they're sick with a fever or, God forbid, cancer? Is that pedophilia, or just love? Children are innocent; the younger they get, the more innocent they become. In a world where many things seem as if they want us to grow up too fast, it is often nice to just sit back and take in that childhood innocence; whether it be climbing a tree, riding a ferris wheel or even opening up ones house to children. I realize it is hard for some of you to accept the fact that a 44 year old man is allowing children to sleep in his room. Yet, Is anything innapropriate taking place within that bedroom? Is it really that wrong to show this much love and compassion? I think not. Many people are too quick to judge; they hear the world "sleep" and immediately assume "having sex." Yet, allow me to put it this way: If everybody in the world were as loving as Michael Jackson; if everyone were as compassionate as Michael Jackson; if every single human being were just as willing to open up not only their house, not only their bed, but their heart as well; if we all had a big enough heart to accept this much innocence and precious beauty into our lives, then the world would be a better place to live. Michael Jackson once wrote "What have I got that I can give?" We should all take these words in stride; we should all accept them with open arms.

I like Arthur. I like Scooby Doo. I'm still a fan of the Smurfs, Alvin & the Chipmunks, Peanuts, Garfield, and Nicktoons. I love the Nickelodeon area at Great America, and I enjoy "kiddie" rides like ferris wheels and the Fantasyland attractions at Disneyland. I wouldn't be afraid to let younger children sleep in my bed, whether it be next to me or not. What the Hell would I care? My room has a VCR, TV, computer with DVD-Rom, Super NES, DVD collection, stereo, and huge selection of CD's. And I'm in my 20's. You are one of the most fucking insensitive people on Earth. I've answered your questions in previous posts, yet you choose to ignore them. Well, that's your perogative; but you're making yourself look like a God damn idiot.

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2003

i Agree with u!!!!!!!!!!! Daniel s so hard to convince here

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2003

William, what does MJ's abnormal childhood have to do with him needing to sleep in bed with little boys and dangling babies out windows? You seem to be forgetting that child abusers were often abused themselves as children. Every generation is responsible for ending the cycle of abuse. MJ can be held accountable for some of the things he does as an adult.

I've heard the sad stories MJ tells about his childhood and I swear the older he gets, the sadder they get. How can MJ's childhood get worse now that he is an adult?

-- Anonymous, August 21, 2003

Leave Michael Jackson alone. He is 100% innocent. If he has had a normal childhood he would probably have a normal life just like anyone else. Stardom at a young age will affect anyone

-- Anonymous, August 18, 2003

Then you tell me what that post meant. And why you believe MJ has sex w/children despite the 100% total lack of evidence?

-- Anonymous, August 14, 2003

get a life!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 14, 2003

That post doesn't make sense.

-- Anonymous, August 13, 2003

personaly i don't care if he's a pedophile but all i know is YOU people are making me hate "thriller" because the video is what makes the song fuck the song the video is the best:( to damn bad really fucking yrs. and yrs. ago the song was OK but the vidoe was the best film i saw next to "the color purple"... get it!.........got it!.....good!....... by mj fan 4 life my hubby

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

personaly i don't care if he's a pedophile but all i know is YOU people are making me hate "thriller" because the video is what makes the song fuck the song the video is the best:( to damn bad really fucking yrs. and yrs. ago the song was OK but the vidoe was the best film i saw next to "the color purple"... get it!.........got it!.....good!....... by mj fan 4 life my hubby

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

hhhmmmm........ yeah!

-- Anonymous, August 10, 2003

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookay ... ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... yes:)

-- Anonymous, August 09, 2003

yeah lol!

-- Anonymous, August 09, 2003

Whatever^^)

-- Anonymous, August 09, 2003

your so funny!

-- Anonymous, August 09, 2003

Defend youreslf then! Gimme a legitimate argument

-- Anonymous, August 08, 2003

your just sticking up for him! sure feel sorry for u,

-- Anonymous, August 08, 2003

OK, whatever. You are Hell-bent on saying that MJ is guilty, despite the fact that there is no evidence. And why don't you, as you put it, "belive" that post? Are you really so naive that you cannot even fathom a person being so compassionate and caring? Are you really so blind/closed-minded?

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2003

i did read that Article of yours but like i said i don't blieve a word your saying!!!!!!! oh yeah i did get a grade in English class i got an A so go blow yourself!!!!!!!! i do understand what it means i aint stupid!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2003

Ummm ... read my lats lengthy post. If you don't understand it, if you can't comprehend it, that's your problem.

You've never gotten above a C in an English class, have you?

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2003

your the only one who's Making yourself look stupid your so dumb to believe him all he made are just a bunch of lies it's not true none of it's true!!!!!!!!!!! i think he's gonna need alot of help to fix that twisted head of his thats for sure that guy makes me so cunfuse his got to be the weirdest person i ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! his soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo weird!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, August 02, 2003

What you just said doesn't make sense, unless you really don't think that I am who I say I am. As for the second post, all one needs is a grasp of basic reasoning to understand it. It doesn't contain any facts.

Stop making yourself look stupid.

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2003

I still don't believe a word your saying,

-- Anonymous, August 01, 2003

And did you ever consider that the man might just be a little more loving and compassionate than you or I? They -- the children -- request to spend the night in his room; he complies. So what? He sees nothing wrong with it, and neither do the parents. Just because everybody all might sleep in the same bed does not automatically make them a pedophile. How many parents have slept in the same bed with their children? What about comforting them in bed if they're sick with a fever or, God forbid, cancer? Is that pedophilia, or just love? Children are innocent; the younger they get, the more innocent they become. In a world where many things seem as if they want us to grow up too fast, it is often nice to just sit back and take in that childhood innocence; whether it be climbing a tree, riding a ferris wheel or even opening up ones house to children. I realize it is hard for some of you to accept the fact that a 44 year old man is allowing children to sleep in his room. Yet, Is anything innapropriate taking place within that bedroom? Is it really that wrong to show this much love and compassion? I think not. Many people are too quick to judge; they hear the world "sleep" and immediately assume "having sex." Yet, allow me to put it this way: If everybody in the world were as loving as Michael Jackson; if everyone were as compassionate as Michael Jackson; if every single human being were just as willing to open up not only their house, not only their bed, but their heart as well; if we all had a big enough heart to accept this much innocence and precious beauty into our lives, then the world would be a better place to live. Michael Jackson once wrote "What have I got that I can give?" We should all take these words in stride; we should all accept them with open arms.

-- Anonymous, July 31, 2003

Whatever

Look, I didn't quite understand the Lisa Marie thing, but I truly believe he loved her. And you can say what you want, but the bottom line is: MJ is a warm, caring, compassionate and very generous person. He probably just paid off the family to avoid the gigantic hassles. Indeed, this trial would have taken forever; and although the facts of the investigation point -- overwhelmingly -- towards innocence, the case, if brought up in court, had the potential of lasting God knows how long.

If I had the money, and a case like this was brought up against me, I would have paid the family. Knowing me, I don't think I would last in such an intense trial. And no, I'm not saying this simply because I am a huge fan of MJ. I'm saying it because it's the truth.

And I don't give a damn what anybody else thinks of that; or me, for that matter. I live my own life; I am who I am; and screw you if this doesn't fit your God damn standards of what "normal" is.

-- Anonymous, July 30, 2003

Yes, it did occur to me that MJ is a child at heart. In fact I believed it, until the molestation charges forced me to reconsider. I even was willing to consider that MJ was a victim of extortion, but then MJ paid off his victim and got married to beef up his image. Unconditional love? Unconditional lust is more like it. His whole Neverland Ranch is designed to lure star-struck children.

Daniel, when did the biblical Jesus sleep with little boys and dangle babies out third story windows?

-- Anonymous, July 30, 2003

Is it entirely possible that there exists at least one human being on Earth who appears to be as loving, compassionate and, most of all, misunderstood as Jesus? Yes ... and his name is Michael Jackson. No, Mike is not Jesus. But, he is very much like him. Jesus posessed an unconditional love for children, a love so strong and true that the majority of those around him could not understand it. He saw life through different eyes; on a much deeper level; and for this he was tortured and left for dead. Yet, Do we question the motives of this man? Or can we, as fellow human beings, search deep within ourselves to feel what he felt; to see what he saw; to be touched in a way that it almost hurts? Can we, as fellow human beings, accept such a man today?

Or do we automatically berade them and pronounce them pedophiles? MJ is unique ... ever consider that?

He is different. Indeed, people hate what is different.

-- Anonymous, July 29, 2003

Did it ever occur to you that MJ is a child at heart? Like I said before, I wouldn't mind if a child asked if he/she could sleep in my room. Like I said before, I enjoy Arthur, the Berenstain Bears, Sesame Street, the muppets, etc. Like I said before, I like amusement parks, Nickelodeon and hanging around young children. And like I said before, I love designer clothing (Versace and Prada are my two favorites). If I was worth the money MJ is, I would probably do what he does: donate half of it to charity, and the other half on myself (Giant house, huge shopping sprees, etc). Now, am I normal? Well, to me I am. But to you, probably not. But, you know what? It makes me feel good, and I don't give one fucking damn what you or anybody else says. I am a nice person; I have donated to charity in the past (and still do); I like wearing stylish -- and somewhat garish -- things; I love young children; I love cartoons; I love simple "kiddy" theme and amusement park rides; I would never turn down a childs request to sleepover in my room (If it's alright with the parents); and I would never sexually molest a child.

If anyone takes all this as wierd, too damn bad.

-- Anonymous, July 29, 2003

First of all Daniel, while no one else to date has said they've been molested by Michael Jackson, two boys have said they were groped by him. It's no surprise no one else has filed abuse charges. First off, the police would have had to have interviewed an abuse victim, and I don't think MJ has molested every one of the hundreds of children to visit his ranch. Second, the parent of the victim would have to be willing to subject their family to a media blitz and the troubles of going up against a powerful and popular man. Most child molesters don't get caught.

Once again Daniel you drag out pointless arguments to prove nothing. Yes, Mister Rogers shows a couple of traits you'll find in pedophiles which does not mean he is one. But Michael Jackson shows many, many traits. Did Mister Rogers identify himself as a child? Did he prefer children for company? Did he hold little boy sleepovers at his house? Did he invite children to sleep naked in his bed? Your point is useless. And what does having children in your bed have to do with unconditional love? In MJ's sick twisted mind, "loving" children probably means having sex with them.

What would it take to prove to me that MJ is a good father? Several things:

1. Don't dangle your kids out bedroom windows and then claim they were never in any danger.

2. Don't make your kids wear masks in public.

3. Don't lie about the mother, and more importantly the father of your infant son. There's nothing wrong with a black man adopting a white child, but there's something suspicious about MJ's need to lie about his origin.

4. Don't hold sham marriages.

5. Don't have children follow you everywhere you go. This need for kids to accompany MJ to his hotel rooms and across the world suggests a bizarre psychological need.

6. Don't have someone else's kids sleep with you in your bed. Separete accomadations should be appropriate.

7. Most importantly of all, don't pay off "baseless" molestation charges. There is absolutely no reason for MJ to pay 15 million dollars just weeks before trial if there is no evidence.

-- Anonymous, July 29, 2003

None of the children who were interviewed by police/detectives said that they had sex with Jackson.

Why don't you belive the GQ article? Why doesn't it make sense to you? Answer these questions.

You probably also think that Mister Rogers molested children, don't you?

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2003

why Don't you go and read Articles or Better yet...... hhhmmmm why don't go to his house so you will be surprise of what your gonna see!!!!!! Jordy is not his only victim you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 27, 2003

And you say I'm hard to convince; so far, you haven't tried to convince me of anything. All you keep saying is that MJ is guilty ... over and over again. OK, you say that Michael Jackson sexually molests children. Where is your proof (Circumstantial or otherwise)?

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

Read the exerpt from GQ above. There is no evidence that he has sex with cbhildren. Just stick to that subject. The homesexuality debate has been going on since his 20's; thus, it has been butchered to death.

Come to think of it, so has "this."

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

your sooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard to convince!!!!!!!!!!! they were not art photographs that only means one thing that his homosexual!!!!!!!!!!! Damn it!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

The Untold Story Ends The investigation of Jackson, which by October 1993 would grow to involve at least twelve detectives from Santa Barbara and Los Angeles counties, was instigated in part by the perceptions of one psychiatrist, Mathis Abrams, who had no particular expertise in child sexual abuse. Abrams, the DCS caseworker's report noted, "feels the child is telling the truth." In an era of widespread and often false claims of child molestation, police and prosecutors have come to give great weight to the testimony of psychiatrists, therapists and social workers. Police seized Jackson's telephone books during the raid on his residences in August and questioned close to thirty children and their families. Some, such as Brett Barnes and Wade Robson, said they had shared Jackson's bed, but like all the others, they gave the same response -- Jackson had done nothing wrong. "The evidence was very good for us," says an attorney who worked on Jackson's defense. "The other side had nothing but a big mouth." Despite the scant evidence supporting their belief that Jackson was guilty, the police stepped up their efforts. Two officers flew to the Philippines to try to nail down the Quindoys' "hand in the pants" story, but apparently decided it lacked credibility. The police also employed aggressive investigative techniques -- including allegedly telling lies -- to push the children into making accusations against Jackson. According to several parents who complained to Bert Fields, officers told them unequivocally that their children had been molested, even though the children denied to their parents that anything bad had happened. The police, Fields complained in a letter to Los Angeles Police Chief Willie Williams, "have also frightened youngsters with outrageous lies, such as 'We have nude photos of you.' There are, of course, no such photos." One officer, Federico Sicard, told attorney Michael Freeman that he had lied to the children he'd interviewed and told them that he himself had been molested as a child, says Freeman.

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

That doesn't mean he has sex w/children. Perhaps they were art photgraphs; you know, photos like one would find in an art book.

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

First of all you really don't know what happend why did they found nude picture's of boys in his room when they were doing and investigation?

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

No

Answer my questions

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

Did he Molested you?

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

So, according to you, a person cannot have an unconditional love for childre without having sex w/them. Like I said before: I could write an x-rated account of how Garth Brooks molested me; would that really be enough proof to you of guilt?

Read my lengthy above post. Don't just skim it. What parts don't make sense to you? Just tell me.

-- Anonymous, July 26, 2003

haven't you read Jordy Chandler's Declaration? yeah and i have read your post! but what will i admit? that he didn't hurt and anyone? that his really inoccent? why don't you go read Article's you bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2003

Shut the up. If you don't understand what I wrote above (Which I think you do; you just won't admit it), you are more naive than I thought

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2003

yeah thought so!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 25, 2003

Whatever... ^^)

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2003

WHATEVER W WE STILL THINK HIS CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 24, 2003

What would it take to prove to you that MJ is a good father? Debbie Rowe says he is ... his brothers say he is ... Janet has said he is ... his employees say he is. A while back, Madonna let her baby crawl on a hotel balcony. Yet it wasn't nationally covered. Why? Cause she's Madonna. Jordy's father refused to comment after the GQ article came out. Years later, msnbc interviews employees who say that MJ did have sex with children; the same employees who admitted to lying for money. If the GQ article is not enough, what would be? Right now, I could accuse Garth Brooks of molesting me, and write a blistering x-rated description to boot. If this drug that Jordy's father gave to him is indeed similar to hypnosis, it'd be easy for him to manipulate Jordy into whatever the Hell he -- the father -- wants. According to you, the GQ article is BS. Why doesn't the investigation make sense? To me, the article is not biased. To me, it is simply an investigation, ending with the most logical conclusion: that MJ is innocent. If the reporter was being biased, it'd be pretty obvious -- despite all the incriminating and suspicious evidence, she looks the other way. If she were being biased, she would have concluded that MJ is definately, without a doubt guilty. You say that the phone calls made by the father were because MJ had molested Jordy. Sure didn't seem that way to me, especially considering all the acts surrounding the calls. Did you ever consider the fact that this article told everything and left nothing important out? I know it is easy to say that MJ is guilty without any proof. And considering the fact that he is one of the most loving human beings on Earth (And one of the most unique), it's easy to accuse him of sexual molestation. But just because we don't understand someone doesn't mean we should berade them or, as in the case of MJ, say that they're guilty of something even though simple logic says otherwise. Just like the sexual molestation case against Mister Rogers a while back. He has a soft voice; uses small words while on television; loves children; seemingly sees the world through the eyes of a child; a perfect candidate for a sexual molestor. Indeed, some people might say, "Yes, he did molest young children." But, you know what? Just because someone is as loving, caring and sensitive as Mister Rogers or, dare I say, Jesus does not mean that he/she has sex with children.

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2003

Daniel, MJ's dangling his son out the third story balcony was not a "foolish parental decision". It was a deliberate parental decision. MJ knew very well what he was doing when he dangled his infant son, even taking the time to drape him in a towel. In photographs you can clearly see MJ is getting a thrill out of it. MJ even said his son was never in any danger! You need to stop apologizing for MJ's behaviour. MJ can be held accountable for some of the things he does.

You cite MJ's home videos as proof that he is a good father, yet what does that prove? I'm sure a lot of kids with pedophiles for fathers must have very ambivalent feelings towards them, alternately loving them and fearing them. I'm sure there are times when abused children are giggly and happy. The videos only prove what MJ wants them to prove.

Once again you are pedaling cockeyed conspiracy theories that vilify anyone who dares to speak out against Jackson. Look at the smoking gun document. Does that looked like the accusations of a drugged up child? Was Jordy drugged up when he went to the psychiatrist and the police? It was very brave of former employees and Jackson's sister to speak out against him, and I think vilifying them for that is very low of you.

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2003

You didn't even answer my questions, which just shows how naive you really are. You know I'm right, but you won't admit it because MJ doesn't meet your God damn expectations of what "normal" is? Was Mr. Rogers normal? Was Walt Disney normal? Was Einstein normal? Was Michaelangelo normal? Am I, a college student who likes Arthur, Sesame Street and the Berenstain Bears, normal? Please tell me; I'd like to know.

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2003

i tell ya he needs to get help somebody who can teach him what is right and what is wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! his soooooooooooooooooooo weird!!!!!!!!!!!!! his different from other normal people!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2003

Did you even read the articles? You say that MJ molests children; where are your facts? The article from GQ presents many facts: The disturbing phone calls made by Jordy's father, the drug administered to Jordy, the lies told to police by former employees in exchange for money, and, how it allo started, the father angry at MJ. Put all this together, and does MJ look guilty to you? If the man is indeed guilty, show me your evidence. Just one fact, that's all I ask; one fact that actually presents any possibility of any wrongdoing on the part of MJ; any wrongdoing on the part of someone else that might incriminate MJ.

-- Anonymous, July 22, 2003

you mean your making yourslef look stupid by deffending him and talking about without knowing the truth yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

And if Steven Tyler molests me, I won't come cryin either.

You have no real case against MJ. If you do, explain to me the reasons, and why you take these tow articles as bogus.

If you can't, shut the fuck up. You're just making yourself look naive and stupid.

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

Uhhhhhhhhh ... okay

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

his useless Daniel i just have one thing to say! if there was a chance you meet him in person if you two got closer to each other and there was a chance he molested you same as what he did to Jordy Chandler!!! don't come crying to us saying you were Molested,

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

As for Chandler's story about using the drug to sedate his son during a tooth extraction, that too seems dubious, in light of the drug's customary use. "It's absolutely a psychiatric drug," says Dr. Kenneth Gottlieb, a San Francisco psychiatrist who has administered sodium Amytal to amnesia patients. Dr. John Yagiela, the coordinator of the anesthesia and pain control department of UCLA's school of dentistry, adds, "It's unusual for it to be used [for pulling a tooth]. It makes no sense when better, safer alternatives are available. It would not be my choice."

Because of sodium Amytal's potential side effects, some doctors will administer it only in a hospital. "I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person's unconscious unless there was no other drug available," says Gottlieb. "And I would not use it without resuscitating equipment, in case of allergic reaction, and only with an M.D. anesthesiologist present."

Chandler, it seems, did not follow these guidelines. He had the procedure performed on his son in his office, and he relied on the dental anesthesiologist Mark Torbiner for expertise. (It was Torbiner who'd introduced Chandler and Rothman in 1991, when Rothman needed dental work.)

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-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

By then, June Chandler Schwartz and Dave Schwartz had united with Evan Chandler against Jackson. The boy's mother, say several sources, feared what Chandler and Rothman might do if she didn't side with them. She worried that they would try to advance a charge against her of parental neglect for allowing her son to have sleepovers with Jackson. Her attorney, Michael Freeman, in turn, resigned in disgust, saying later that "the whole thing was such a mess. I felt uncomfortable with Evan. He isn't a genuine person, and I sensed he wasn't playing things straight."

Over the months, lawyers for both sides were retained, demoted and ousted as they feuded over the best strategy to take. Rothman ceased being Chandler's lawyer in late August, when the Jackson camp filed extortion charges against the two. Both then hired high-priced criminal defense attorneys to represent them.. (Rothman retained Robert Shapiro, now O.J. Simpson's chief lawyer.) According to the diary kept by Rothman's former colleague, on August 26, before the extortion charges were filed, Chandler was heard to say "It's my ass that's on the line and in danger of going to prison." The investigation into the extortion charges was superficial because, says a source, "the police never took it that seriously. But a whole lot more could have been done." For example, as they had done with Jackson, the police could have sought warrants to search the homes and offices of Rothman and Chandler. And when both men, through their attorneys, declined to be interviewed by police, a grand jury could have been convened.

In mid-September, Larry Feldman, a civil attorney who'd served as head of the Los Angeles Trial Lawyers Association, began representing Chandler's son and immediately took control of the situation. He filed a $30 million civil lawsuit against Jackson, which would prove to be the beginning of the end.

Once news of the suit spread, the wolves began lining up at the door. According to a member of Jackson's legal team, "Feldman got dozens of letters from all kinds of people saying they'd been molested by Jackson. They went through all of them trying to find somebody, and they found zero." ________________

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

Chandler’s plan was to accuse Michael Jackson of child molestation, but unfortunately for Chandler, Jordy refused to implicate Jackson in any way whatsoever. To solve that problem, Chandler took his son to dental anesthesiologist Mark Tobiner. Tobiner injected into Jordy the barbiturate sodium Amytal, under the influence of which a person is highly impressionable; the effect is similar to hypnosis. With sodium Amytal swimming through his system, Jordy said for the first time that Jackson had molested him.

Finally armed with this crucial tidbit, Chandler brought Jordy to psychiatrist Mathis Abrams, to whom Jordy repeated his allegations of Michael Jackson’s misconduct. Abrams contacted the Department of Children’s Services, which in turn called the police. Five days after the police began to investigate Jordy’s claims, the media discovered the allegations against Jackson.

A short time later, former Jackson employees emerged into the spotlight, saying they had seen Michael Jackson molesting children other than Jordy. Something worth noting is that all of these employees had been fired, so they had reason not to like Michael Jackson. Also, these employees received money for their stories from tabloids such as The Globe and Hard Copy. When these people were in a courtroom, however, where they had to tell the truth on pain of imprisonment, none of them could say they had seen Jackson perform any untoward acts on even a single young boy.

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

And the phone calls by Chandler were made "before" the accusations.

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

1) If a child asked if he/she could sleepover in my room, and if the parents comply, I would be fine with it. Hey -- I have a TV, VCR, Super Nintendo and a DVD-Rom; we'd have plenty to keep us occupied! Get snacks and have a party ... scarf down milk and cookies ... what's wrong with that? Now ... uhhh ... if they wanna watch tv and listen to music in their underwear ... ooooooooookay ^^) 2) Who the Hell cares about the masks? Mike's kids don't. It was revealed in the Take 2 special that they "don't" care, seeing it as a game and nothing more. The children were very happy, giggling and playing as children do. Towards the end of the MJ HOME MOVIES, while YOU ARE MY LIFE is playing, Paris is asked what she'd like to be when she grows up. Her answer? "Like my daddy." 3) The balcony "incident" happened months ago. This was not the first time a celebrity has made foolish parental decisions, but MJ's was the first to be heavily criticized. Hmmm ... I wonder why? MJ apologized. Let it alone.

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

Have you ever had someone accuse you of child molestation Daniel? Do you hold sleepovers with little boys in their underwear? Do you hold sleepovers with hundreds of little boys in their underwear? Do you need children to accompany you when you travel? Do you collect child pornography? Do you dangle babies over balconies? Do you make children wear masks in public?

I too like a lot of things from my childhood. I also like kids. But I don't do any of the above. And what does sleeping with children have to do with loving them? Why is it any less loving to let them sleep on the floor or in seperate accomidations? I say again, claiming that a man would make of child sex abuse charges against MJ just because he was having difficulty marketing screenplays is crazy. Even MJ's lawyers realized this, which is why they chose not to pursue extortion charges. The taped conversation only proves what you want it to prove. It proves Chandler was angry at MJ, but not why. More likely he was angry at MJ for molesting his son. Read the msnbc article and the smoking gun document

Celebrities should not be above the law. If you really cared about children Daniel you'd be standing up to MJ instead of looking the other way. How many innocent children must suffer because of your disbelief?

-- Anonymous, July 21, 2003

Thank you for posting that.

You know what? I'm in college; yet I love Disneyland, Walt Disney World (And yes, I adore the "kiddy" attractions in Fantasyland), Universal Studios, Marine World and Great America (The Nickelodeon area is, IMO, the cutest part of the park). I love Garfield, Looney Tunes, Jetsons, Flinstones, the Smurfs, and Alvin & the Chipmunks. I love Arthur (Yes, I admit it), the Berenstain Bears and Scooby Doo. I'm a huge Jim Henson fan and love Sesame Street and the Muppets. My fav Nintendo character is Mario; I like being around young children (ie the innocence; reminiscent of my own childhood, back to a simpler time; before companies who don't give a damn about the customer and the $6.00 stadium burger); and, just like MJ, I love stylish clothing (Versace, Prada, Bernini, Perry Ellis, etc). I'm also fans of shows such as DAWSON'S CREEK and BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER. And Mister Rogers is, and always will be, one of my favorite celebrities.

Oh ... and I would never sexually molest a child.

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2003

READ THIS...THIS PROVES ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS WRONG, IF YOU DUBASSES CAN ACTUALLY READ THE WHOLE THING

The untold story of the events that brought down a superstar.

Before O.J. Simpson, there was Michael Jackson -- another beloved black celebrity seemingly brought down by allegations of scandal in his personal life. Those allegations -- that Jackson had molested a 13-year-old boy -- instigated a multimillion-dollar lawsuit, two grand-jury investigations and a shameless media circus. Jackson, in turn, filed charges of extortion against some of his accusers. Ultimately, the suit was settled out of court for a sum that has been estimated at $20 million; no criminal charges were brought against Jackson by the police or the grand juries. This past August, Jackson was in the news again, when Lisa Marie Presley, Elvis's daughter, announced that she and the singer had married. As the dust settles on one of the nation's worst episodes of media excess, one thing is clear: The American public has never heard a defense of Michael Jackson. Until now. It is, of course, impossible to prove a negative -- that is, prove that something didn't happen. But it is possible to take an in-depth look at the people who made the allegations against Jackson and thus gain insight into their character and motives. What emerges from such an examination, based on court documents, business records and scores of interviews, is a persuasive argument that Jackson molested no one and that he himself may have been the victim of a well-conceived plan to extract money from him. More than that, the story that arises from this previously unexplored territory is radically different from the tale that has been promoted by tabloid and even mainstream journalists. It is a story of greed, ambition, misconceptions on the part of police and prosecutors, a lazy and sensation-seeking media and the use of a powerful, hypnotic drug. It may also be a story about how a case was simply invented. Neither Michael Jackson nor his current defense attorneys agreed to be interviewed for this article. Had they decided to fight the civil charges and go to trial, what follows might have served as the core of Jackson's defense -- as well as the basis to further the extortion charges against his own accusers, which could well have exonerated the singer.

Jackson's troubles began when his van broke down on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles in May 1992. Stranded in the middle of the heavily trafficked street, Jackson was spotted by the wife of Mel Green, an employee at Rent-a-Wreck, an offbeat car-rental agency a mile away. Green went to the rescue. When Dave Schwartz, the owner of the car-rental company, heard Green was bringing Jackson to the lot, he called his wife, June, and told her to come over with their 6-year- old daughter and her son from her previous marriage. The boy, then 12, was a big Jackson fan. Upon arriving, June Chandler Schwartz told Jackson about the time her son had sent him a drawing after the singer's hair caught on fire during the filming of a Pepsi commercial. Then she gave Jackson their home number. "It was almost like she was forcing [the boy] on him," Green recalls. "I think Michael thought he owed the boy something, and that's when it all started." Certain facts about the relationship are not in dispute. Jackson began calling the boy, and a friendship developed. After Jackson returned from a promotional tour, three months later, June Chandler Schwartz and her son and daughter became regular guests at Neverland, Jackson's ranch in Santa Barbara County. During the following year, Jackson showered the boy and his family with attention and gifts, including video games, watches, an after-hours shopping spree at Toys "R" Us and trips around the world -- from Las Vegas and Disney World to Monaco and Paris. By March 1993, Jackson and the boy were together frequently and the sleepovers began. June Chandler Schwartz had also become close to Jackson "and liked him enormously," one friend says. "He was the kindest man she had ever met." Jackson's personal eccentricities -- from his attempts to remake his face through plastic surgery to his preference for the company of children -- have been widely reported. And while it may be unusual for a 35-year-old man to have sleepovers with a 13-year-old child, the boy's mother and others close to Jackson never thought it odd. Jackson's behavior is better understood once it's put in the context of his own childhood. "Contrary to what you might think, Michael's life hasn't been a walk in the park," one of his attorneys says. Jackson's childhood essentially stopped -- and his unorthodox life began -- when he was 5 years old and living in Gary, Indiana. Michael spent his youth in rehearsal studios, on stages performing before millions of strangers and sleeping in an endless string of hotel rooms. Except for his eight brothers and sisters, Jackson was surrounded by adults who pushed him relentlessly, particularly his father, Joe Jackson -- a strict, unaffectionate man who reportedly beat his children. Jackson's early experiences translated into a kind of arrested development, many say, and he became a child in a man's body. "He never had a childhood," says Bert Fields, a former attorney of Jackson's. "He is having one now. His buddies are 12-year-old kids. They have pillow fights and food fights." Jackson's interest in children also translated into humanitarian efforts. Over the years, he has given millions to causes benefiting children, including his own Heal The World Foundation. But there is another context -- the one having to do with the times in which we live -- in which most observers would evaluate Jackson's behavior. "Given the current confusion and hysteria over child sexual abuse," says Dr. Phillip Resnick, a noted Cleveland psychiatrist, "any physical or nurturing contact with a child may be seen as suspicious, and the adult could well be accused of sexual misconduct." Jackson's involvement with the boy was welcomed, at first, by all the adults in the youth's life -- his mother, his stepfather and even his biological father, Evan Chandler (who also declined to be interviewed for this article). Born Evan Robert Charmatz in the Bronx in 1944, Chandler had reluctantly followed in the footsteps of his father and brothers and become a dentist. "He hated being a dentist," a family friend says. "He always wanted to be a writer." After moving in 1973 to West Palm Beach to practice dentistry, he changed his last name, believing Charmatz was "too Jewish-sounding," says a former colleague. Hoping somehow to become a screenwriter, Chandler moved to Los Angeles in the late Seventies with his wife, June Wong, an attractive Eurasian who had worked briefly as a model. Chandler's dental career had its precarious moments. In December 1978, while working at the Crenshaw Family Dental Center, a clinic in a low-income area of L.A., Chandler did restoration work on sixteen of a patient's teeth during a single visit. An examination of the work, the Board of Dental Examiners concluded, revealed "gross ignorance and/or inefficiency" in his profession. The board revoked his license; however, the revocation was stayed, and the board instead suspended him for ninety days and placed him on probation for two and a half years. Devastated, Chandler left town for New York. He wrote a film script but couldn't sell it. Months later, Chandler returned to L.A. with his wife and held a series of dentistry jobs. By 1980, when their son was born, the couple's marriage was in trouble. "One of the reasons June left Evan was because of his temper," a family friend says. They divorced in 1985. The court awarded sole custody of the boy to his mother and ordered Chandler to pay $500 a month in child support, but a review of documents reveals that in 1993, when the Jackson scandal broke, Chandler owed his ex-wife $68,000 -- a debt she ultimately forgave. A year before Jackson came into his son's life, Chandler had a second serious professional problem. One of his patients, a model, sued him for dental negligence after he did restoration work on some of her teeth. Chandler claimed that the woman had signed a consent form in which she'd acknowledged the risks involved. But when Edwin Zinman, her attorney, asked to see the original records, Chandler said they had been stolen from the trunk of his Jaguar. He provided a duplicate set. Zinman, suspicious, was unable to verify the authenticity of the records. "What an extraordinary coincidence that they were stolen," Zinman says now. "That's like saying 'The dog ate my homework.' " The suit was eventually settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. Despite such setbacks, Chandler by then had a successful practice in Beverly Hills. And he got his first break in Hollywood in 1992, when he cowrote the Mel Brooks film Robin Hood: Men in Tights. Until Michael Jackson entered his son's life, Chandler hadn't shown all that much interest in the boy. "He kept promising to buy him a computer so they could work on scripts together, but he never did," says Michael Freeman, formerly an attorney for June Chandler Schwartz. Chandler's dental practice kept him busy, and he had started a new family by then, with two small children by his second wife, a corporate attorney. At first, Chandler welcomed and encouraged his son's relationship with Michael Jackson, bragging about it to friends and associates. When Jackson and the boy stayed with Chandler during May 1993, Chandler urged the entertainer to spend more time with his son at his house. According to sources, Chandler even suggested that Jackson build an addition onto the house so the singer could stay there. After calling the zoning department and discovering it couldn't be done, Chandler made another suggestion -- that Jackson just build him a new home. That same month, the boy, his mother and Jackson flew to Monaco for the World Music Awards. "Evan began to get jealous of the involvement and felt left out," Freeman says. Upon their return, Jackson and the boy again stayed with Chandler, which pleased him -- a five-day visit, during which they slept in a room with the youth's half brother. Though Chandler has admitted that Jackson and the boy always had their clothes on whenever he saw them in bed together, he claimed that it was during this time that his suspicions of sexual misconduct were triggered. At no time has Chandler claimed to have witnessed any sexual misconduct on Jackson's part. Chandler became increasingly volatile, making threats that alienated Jackson, Dave Schwartz and June Chandler Schwartz. In early July 1993, Dave Schwartz, who had been friendly with Chandler, secretly tape-recorded a lengthy telephone conversation he had with him. During the conversation, Chandler talked of his concern for his son and his anger at Jackson and at his ex-wife, whom he described as "cold and heartless." When Chandler tried to "get her attention" to discuss his suspicions about Jackson, he says on the tape, she told him "Go @#%$ yourself." "I had a good communication with Michael," Chandler told Schwartz. "We were friends. I liked him and I respected him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. What I want." Admitting to Schwartz that he had "been rehearsed" about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that "he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy's power and money." Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy. Elsewhere on the tape, Chandler indicated he was prepared to move against Jackson: "It's already set," Chandler told Schwartz. "There are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I've paid them to do it. Everything's going according to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy [his attorney, Barry K. Rothman, presumably] is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I've given him full authority to do that." Chandler then predicted what would, in fact, transpire six weeks later: "And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I've checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]...and Michael's career will be over." "Does that help [the boy]?" Schwartz asked. "That's irrelevant to me," Chandler replied. "It's going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want." Instead of going to the police, seemingly the most appropriate action in a situation involving suspected child molestation, Chandler had turned to a lawyer. And not just any lawyer. He'd turned to Barry Rothman.

"This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find," Chandler said in the recorded conversation with Schwartz. "All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's very smart, and he's hungry for the publicity." (Through his attorney, Wylie Aitken, Rothman declined to be interviewed for this article. Aitken agreed to answer general questions limited to the Jackson case, and then only about aspects that did not involve Chandler or the boy.) To know Rothman, says a former colleague who worked with him during the Jackson case, and who kept a diary of what Rothman and Chandler said and did in Rothman's office, is to believe that Barry could have "devised this whole plan, period. This [making allegations against Michael Jackson] is within the boundary of his character, to do something like this." Information supplied by Rothman's former clients, associates and employees reveals a pattern of manipulation and deceit. Rothman has a general-law practice in Century City. At one time, he negotiated music and concert deals for Little Richard, the Rolling Stones, the Who, ELO and Ozzy Osbourne. Gold and platinum records commemorating those days still hang on the walls of his office. With his grayish-white beard and perpetual tan -- which he maintains in a tanning bed at his house -- Rothman reminds a former client of "a leprechaun." To a former employee, Rothman is "a demon" with "a terrible temper." His most cherished possession, acquaintances say, is his 1977 Rolls-Royce Corniche, which carries the license plate " BKR 1." Over the years, Rothman has made so many enemies that his ex-wife once expressed, to her attorney, surprise that someone "hadn't done him in." He has a reputation for stiffing people. "He appears to be a professional deadbeat... He pays almost no one," investigator Ed Marcus concluded (in a report filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, as part of a lawsuit against Rothman), after reviewing the attorney's credit profile, which listed more than thirty creditors and judgment holders who were chasing him. In addition, more than twenty civil lawsuits involving Rothman have been filed in Superior Court, several complaints have been made to the Labor Commission and disciplinary actions for three incidents have been taken against him by the state bar of California. In 1992, he was suspended for a year, though that suspension was stayed and he was instead placed on probation for the term. In 1987, Rothman was $16,800 behind in alimony and child-support payments. Through her attorney, his ex-wife, Joanne Ward, threatened to attach Rothman's assets, but he agreed to make good on the debt. A year later, after Rothman still hadn't made the payments, Ward's attorney tried to put a lien on Rothman's expensive Sherman Oaks home. To their surprise, Rothman said he no longer owned the house; three years earlier, he'd deeded the property to Tinoa Operations, Inc., a Panamanian shell corporation. According to Ward's lawyer, Rothman claimed that he'd had $200,000 of Tinoa's money, in cash, at his house one night when he was robbed at gunpoint. The only way he could make good on the loss was to deed his home to Tinoa, he told them. Ward and her attorney suspected the whole scenario was a ruse, but they could never prove it. It was only after sheriff's deputies had towed away Rothman's Rolls Royce that he began paying what he owed. Documents filed with Los Angeles Superior Court seem to confirm the suspicions of Ward and her attorney. These show that Rothman created an elaborate network of foreign bank accounts and shell companies, seemingly to conceal some of his assets -- in particular, his home and much of the $531,000 proceeds from its eventual sale, in 1989. The companies, including Tinoa, can be traced to Rothman. He bought a Panamanian shelf company (an existing but nonoperating firm) and arranged matters so that though his name would not appear on the list of its officers, he would have unconditional power of attorney, in effect leaving him in control of moving money in and out. Meanwhile, Rothman's employees didn't fare much better than his ex- wife. Former employees say they sometimes had to beg for their paychecks. And sometimes the checks that they did get would bounce. He couldn't keep legal secretaries. "He'd demean and humiliate them," says one. Temporary workers fared the worst. "He would work them for two weeks," adds the legal secretary, "then run them off by yelling at them and saying they were stupid. Then he'd tell the agency he was dissatisfied with the temp and wouldn't pay." Some agencies finally got wise and made Rothman pay cash up front before they'd do business with him. The state bar's 1992 disciplining of Rothman grew out of a conflict- of-interest matter. A year earlier, Rothman had been kicked off a case by a client, Muriel Metcalf, whom he'd been representing in child-support and custody proceedings; Metcalf later accused him of padding her bill. Four months after Metcalf fired him, Rothman, without notifying her, began representing the company of her estranged companion, Bob Brutzman. The case is revealing for another reason: It shows that Rothman had some experience dealing with child-molestation allegations before the Jackson scandal. Metcalf, while Rothman was still representing her, had accused Brutzman of molesting their child (which Brutzman denied). Rothman's knowledge of Metcalf's charges didn't prevent him from going to work for Brutzman's company -- a move for which he was disciplined. By 1992, Rothman was running from numerous creditors. Folb Management, a corporate real-estate agency, was one. Rothman owed the company $53,000 in back rent and interest for an office on Sunset Boulevard. Folb sued. Rothman then countersued, claiming that the building's security was so inadequate that burglars were able to steal more than $6,900 worth of equipment from his office one night. In the course of the proceedings, Folb's lawyer told the court, "Mr. Rothman is not the kind of person whose word can be taken at face value." In November 1992, Rothman had his law firm file for bankruptcy, listing thirteen creditors -- including Folb Management -- with debts totaling $880,000 and no acknowledged assets. After reviewing the bankruptcy papers, an ex-client whom Rothman was suing for $400,000 in legal fees noticed that Rothman had failed to list a $133,000 asset. The former client threatened to expose Rothman for "defrauding his creditors" -- a felony -- if he didn't drop the lawsuit. Cornered, Rothman had the suit dismissed in a matter of hours. Six months before filing for bankruptcy, Rothman had transferred title on his Rolls-Royce to Majo, a fictitious company he controlled. Three years earlier, Rothman had claimed a different corporate owner for the car -- Longridge Estates, a subsidiary of Tinoa Operations, the company that held the deed to his home. On corporation papers filed by Rothman, the addresses listed for Longridge and Tinoa were the same, 1554 Cahuenga Boulevard -- which, as it turns out, is that of a Chinese restaurant in Hollywood.

The Untold Story Continued...

It was with this man, in June 1993, that Evan Chandler began carrying out the "certain plan" to which he referred in his taped conversation with Dave Schwartz. At a graduation that month, Chandler confronted his ex-wife with his suspicions. "She thought the whole thing was baloney," says her ex-attorney, Michael Freeman. She told Chandler that she planned to take their son out of school in the fall so they could accompany Jackson on his "Dangerous" world tour. Chandler became irate and, say several sources, threatened to go public with the evidence he claimed he had on Jackson. "What parent in his right mind would want to drag his child into the public spotlight?" asks Freeman. "If something like this actually occurred, you'd want to protect your child." Jackson asked his then-lawyer, Bert Fields, to intervene. One of the most prominent attorneys in the entertainment industry, Fields has been representing Jackson since 1990 and had negotiated for him, with Sony, the biggest music deal ever -- with possible earnings of $700 million. Fields brought in investigator Anthony Pellicano to help sort things out. Pellicano does things Sicilian-style, being fiercely loyal to those he likes but a ruthless hardball player when it comes to his enemies. On July 9, 1993, Dave Schwartz and June Chandler Schwartz played the taped conversation for Pellicano. "After listening to the tape for ten minutes, I knew it was about extortion," says Pellicano. That same day, he drove to Jackson's Century City condominium, where Chandler's son and the boy's half-sister were visiting. Without Jackson there, Pellicano "made eye contact" with the boy and asked him, he says, "very pointed questions": "Has Michael ever touched you? Have you ever seen him naked in bed?" The answer to all the questions was no. The boy repeatedly denied that anything bad had happened. On July 11, after Jackson had declined to meet with Chandler, the boy's father and Rothman went ahead with another part of the plan -- they needed to get custody of the boy. Chandler asked his ex-wife to let the youth stay with him for a "one-week visitation period." As Bert Fields later said in an affidavit to the court, June Chandler Schwartz allowed the boy to go based on Rothman's assurance to Fields that her son would come back to her after the specified time, never guessing that Rothman's word would be worthless and that Chandler would not return their son. Wylie Aitken, Rothman's attorney, claims that "at the time [Rothman] gave his word, it was his intention to have the boy returned." However, once "he learned that the boy would be whisked out of the country [to go on tour with Jackson], I don't think Mr. Rothman had any other choice." But the chronology clearly indicates that Chandler had learned in June, at the graduation, that the boy's mother planned to take her son on the tour. The taped telephone conversation made in early July, before Chandler took custody of his son, also seems to verify that Chandler and Rothman had no intention of abiding by the visitation agreement. "They [the boy and his mother] don't know it yet," Chandler told Schwartz, "but they aren't going anywhere." On July 12, one day after Chandler took control of his son, he had his ex-wife sign a document prepared by Rothman that prevented her from taking the youth out of Los Angeles County. This meant the boy would be unable to accompany Jackson on the tour. His mother told the court she signed the document under duress. Chandler, she said in an affidavit, had threatened that "I would not have [the boy] returned to me." A bitter custody battle ensued, making even murkier any charges Chandler made about wrong-doing on Jackson's part. (As of this August [1994], the boy was still living with Chandler.) It was during the first few weeks after Chandler took control of his son -- who was now isolated from his friends, mother and stepfather -- that the boy's allegations began to take shape. At the same time, Rothman, seeking an expert's opinion to help establish the allegations against Jackson, called Dr. Mathis Abrams, a Beverly Hills psychiatrist. Over the telephone, Rothman presented Abrams with a hypothetical situation. In reply and without having met either Chandler or his son, Abrams on July 15 sent Rothman a two-page letter in which he stated that "reasonable suspicion would exist that sexual abuse may have occurred." Importantly, he also stated that if this were a real and not a hypothetical case, he would be required by law to report the matter to the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services (DCS). According to a July 27 entry in the diary kept by Rothman's former colleague, it's clear that Rothman was guiding Chandler in the plan. "Rothman wrote letter to Chandler advising him how to report child abuse without liability to parent," the entry reads. At this point, there still had been made no demands or formal accusations, only veiled assertions that had become intertwined with a fierce custody battle. On August 4, 1993, however, things became very clear. Chandler and his son met with Jackson and Pellicano in a suite at the Westwood Marquis Hotel. On seeing Jackson, says Pellicano, Chandler gave the singer an affectionate hug (a gesture, some say, that would seem to belie the dentist's suspicions that Jackson had molested his son), then reached into his pocket, pulled out Abrams's letter and began reading passages from it. When Chandler got to the parts about child molestation, the boy, says Pellicano, put his head down and then looked up at Jackson with a surprised _expression, as if to say "I didn't say that." As the meeting broke up, Chandler pointed his finger at Jackson, says Pellicano, and warned "I'm going to ruin you." At a meeting with Pellicano in Rothman's office later that evening, Chandler and Rothman made their demand - $20 million. On August 13, there was another meeting in Rothman's office. Pellicano came back with a counteroffer -- a $350,000 screenwriting deal. Pellicano says he made the offer as a way to resolve the custody dispute and give Chandler an opportunity to spend more time with his son by working on a screenplay together. Chandler rejected the offer. Rothman made a counterdemand -- a deal for three screenplays or nothing -- which was spurned. In the diary of Rothman's ex-colleague, an August 24 entry reveals Chandler's disappointment: "I almost had a $20 million deal," he was overhear telling Rothman. Before Chandler took control of his son, the only one making allegations against Jackson was Chandler himself -- the boy had never accused the singer of any wrongdoing. That changed one day in Chandler's Beverly Hills dental office. In the presence of Chandler and Mark Torbiner, a dental anesthesiologist, the boy was administered the controversial drug sodium Amytal -- which some mistakenly believe is a truth serum. And it was after this session that the boy first made his charges against Jackson. A newsman at KCBS-TV, in L.A., reported on May 3 of this year that Chandler had used the drug on his son, but the dentist claimed he did so only to pull his son's tooth and that while under the drug's influence, the boy came out with allegations. Asked for this article about his use of the drug on the boy, Torbiner replied: "If I used it, it was for dental purposes." Given the facts about sodium Amytal and a recent landmark case that involved the drug, the boy's allegations, say several medical experts, must be viewed as unreliable, if not highly questionable. "It's a psychiatric medication that cannot be relied on to produce fact," says Dr. Resnick, the Cleveland psychiatrist. "People are very suggestible under it. People will say things under sodium Amytal that are blatantly untrue." Sodium Amytal is a barbiturate, an invasive drug that puts people in a hypnotic state when it's injected intravenously. Primarily administered for the treatment of amnesia, it first came into use during World War II, on soldiers traumatized -- some into catatonic states -- by the horrors of war. Scientific studies done in 1952 debunked the drug as a truth serum and instead demonstrated its risks: False memories can be easily implanted in those under its influence. "It is quite possible to implant an idea through the mere asking of a question," says Resnick. But its effects are apparently even more insidious: "The idea can become their memory, and studies have shown that even when you tell them the truth, they will swear on a stack of Bibles that it happened," says Resnick. Recently, the reliability of the drug became an issue in a high- profile trial in Napa County, California. After undergoing numerous therapy sessions, at least one of which included the use of sodium Amytal, 20-year-old Holly Ramona accused her father of molesting her as a child. Gary Ramona vehemently denied the charge and sued his daughter's therapist and the psychiatrist who had administered the drug. This past May, jurors sided with Gary Ramona, believing that the therapist and the psychiatrist may have reinforced memories that were false. Gary Ramona's was the first successful legal challenge to the so-called "repressed memory phenomenon" that has produced thousands of sexual-abuse allegations over the past decade. As for Chandler's story about using the drug to sedate his son during a tooth extraction, that too seems dubious, in light of the drug's customary use. "It's absolutely a psychiatric drug," says Dr. Kenneth Gottlieb, a San Francisco psychiatrist who has administered sodium Amytal to amnesia patients. Dr. John Yagiela, the coordinator of the anesthesia and pain control department of UCLA's school of dentistry, adds, "It's unusual for it to be used [for pulling a tooth]. It makes no sense when better, safer alternatives are available. It would not be my choice." Because of sodium Amytal's potential side effects, some doctors will administer it only in a hospital. "I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person's unconscious unless there was no other drug available," says Gottlieb. "And I would not use it without resuscitating equipment, in case of allergic reaction, and only with an M.D. anesthesiologist present." Chandler, it seems, did not follow these guidelines. He had the procedure performed on his son in his office, and he relied on the dental anesthesiologist Mark Torbiner for expertise. (It was Torbiner who'd introduced Chandler and Rothman in 1991, when Rothman needed dental work.) The nature of Torbiner's practice appears to have made it highly successful. "He boasts that he has $100 a month overhead and $40,000 a month income," says Nylla Jones, a former patient of his. Torbiner doesn't have an office for seeing patients; rather, he travels to various dental offices around the city, where he administers anesthesia during procedures. This magazine has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is probing another aspect of Torbiner's business practices: He makes housecalls to administer drugs -- mostly morphine and Demerol -- not only postoperatively to his dental patients but also, it seems, to those suffering pain whose source has nothing to do with dental work. He arrives at the homes of his clients -- some of them celebrities -- carrying a kind of fishing-tackle box that contains drugs and syringes. At one time, the license plate on his Jaguar read "SLPYDOC." According to Jones, Torbiner charges $350 for a basic ten-to-twenty-minute visit. In what Jones describes as standard practice, when it's unclear how long Torbiner will need to stay, the client, anticipating the stupor that will soon set in, leaves a blank check for Torbiner to fill in with the appropriate amount. Torbiner wasn't always successful. In 1989, he got caught in a lie and was asked to resign from UCLA, where he was an assistant professor at the school of dentistry. Torbiner had asked to take a half-day off so he could observe a religious holiday but was later found to have worked at a dental office instead. A check of Torbiner's credentials with the Board of Dental Examiners indicates that he is restricted by law to administering drugs solely for dental-related procedures. But there is clear evidence that he has not abided by those restrictions. In fact, on at least eight occasions, Torbiner has given a general anesthetic to Barry Rothman, during hair-transplant procedures. Though normally a local anesthetic would be injected into the scalp, "Barry is so afraid of the pain," says Dr. James De Yarman, the San Diego physician who performed Rothman's transplants, "that [he] wanted to be put out completely." De Yarman said he was "amazed" to learn that Torbiner is a dentist, having assumed all along that he was an M.D. In another instance, Torbiner came to the home of Nylla Jones, she says, and injected her with Demerol to help dull the pain that followed her appendectomy. On August 16, three days after Chandler and Rothman rejected the $350,000 script deal, the situation came to a head. On behalf of June Chandler Schwartz, Michael Freeman notified Rothman that he would be filing papers early the next morning that would force Chandler to turn over the boy. Reacting quickly, Chandler took his son to Mathis Abrams, the psychiatrist who'd provided Rothman with his assessment of the hypothetical child-abuse situation. During a three-hour session, the boy alleged that Jackson had engaged in a sexual relationship with him. He talked of masturbation, kissing, fondling of nipples and oral sex. There was, however, no mention of actual penetration, which might have been verified by a medical exam, thus providing corroborating evidence. The next step was inevitable. Abrams, who is required by law to report any such accusation to authorities, called a social worker at the Department of Children's Services, who in turn contacted the police. The full-scale investigation of Michael Jackson was about to begin.

Five days after Abrams called the authorities, the media got wind of the investigation. On Sunday morning, August 22, Don Ray, a free- lance reporter in Burbank, was asleep when his phone rang. The caller, one of his tipsters, said that warrants had been issued to search Jackson's ranch and condominium. Ray sold the story to L.A.'s KNBC-TV, which broke the news at 4 P.M. the following day. After that, Ray "watched this story go away like a freight train," he says. Within twenty-four hours, Jackson was the lead story on seventy- three TV news broadcasts in the Los Angeles area alone and was on the front page of every British newspaper. The story of Michael Jackson and the 13-year-old boy became a frenzy of hype and unsubstantiated rumor, with the line between tabloid and mainstream media virtually eliminated. The extent of the allegations against Jackson wasn't known until August 25. A person inside the DCS illegally leaked a copy of the abuse report to Diane Dimond of Hard Cop y. Within hours, the L.A. office of a British news service also got the report and began selling copies to any reporter willing to pay $750. The following day, the world knew about the graphic details in the leaked report. "While laying next to each other in bed, Mr. Jackson put his hand under [the child's] shorts," the social worker had written. From there, the coverage soon demonstrated that anything about Jackson would be fair game. "Competition among news organizations became so fierce," says KNBC reporter Conan Nolan, that "stories weren't being checked out. It was very unfortunate." The National Enquirer put twenty reporters and editors on the story. One team knocked on 500 doors in Brentwood trying to find Evan Chandler and his son. Using property records, they finally did, catching up with Chandler in his black Mercedes. "He was not a happy man. But I was," said Andy O'Brien, a tabloid photographer. Next came the accusers -- Ja ck son's former employees. First, Stella and Philippe Lemarque, Jackson' ex-housekeepers, tried to sell their story to the tabloids with the help of broker Paul Barresi, a former porn star. They asked for as much as half a million dollars but wound up selling an interview to The Globe of Britain for $15,000. The Quindoys, a Filipino couple who had worked at Neverland, followed. When their asking price was $100,000, they said " 'the hand was outside the kid's pants,' " Barresi told a producer of Frontline, a PBS program. "As soon as their price went up to $500,000, the hand went inside the pants. So come on." The L.A. district attorney's office eventually concluded that both couples were useless as witnesses. Next came the bodyguards. Purporting to take the journalistic high road, Hard Copy's Diane Dimond told Frontline in early November of last year that her program was "pristinely clean on this. We paid no money for this story at all." But two weeks later, as a Hard Copy contract reveals, the show was negotiating a $100,000 payment to five former Jackson security guards who were planning to file a $10 million lawsuit alleging wrongful termination of their jobs. On December 1, with the deal in place, two of the guards appeared on the program; they had been fired, Dimond told viewers, because "they knew too much about Michael Jackson's strange relationship with young boys." In reality, as their depositions under oath three months later reveal, it was clear they had never actually seen Jackson do anything improper with Chandler's son or any other child: "So you don't know anything about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?" one of Jackson's attorneys asked former security guard Morris Williams under oath. "All I know is from the sworn documents that other people have sworn to." "But other than what someone else may have said, you have no firsthand knowledge about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?" "That's correct." "Have you spoken to a child who has ever told you that Mr. Jackson did anything improper with the child?" "No." When asked by Jackson's attorney where he had gotten his impressions, Williams replied: "Just what I've been hearing in the media and what I've experienced with my own eyes." "Okay. That's the point. You experienced nothing with your own eyes, did you?" "That's right, nothing." (The guards' lawsuit, filed in March 1994, was still pending as this article went to press.) [NOTE: The case was thrown out of court in July 1995. Next came the maid. On December 15, Hard Copy presented "The Bedroom Maid's Painful Secret." Blanca Francia told Dimond and other reporters that she had seen a naked Jackson taking showers and Jacuzzi baths with young boys. She also told Dimond that she had witnessed her own son in compromising positions with Jackson -- an allegation that the grand juries apparently never found credible. A copy of Francia's sworn testimony reveals that Hard Copy paid her $20,000, and had Dimond checked out the woman's claims, she would have found them to be false. Under deposition by a Jackson attorney, Francia admitted she had never actually see Jackson shower with anyone nor had she seen him naked with boys in his Jacuzzi. They always had their swimming trunks on, she acknowledged. The coverage, says Michael Levine, a Jackson press representative, "followed a proctologist's view of the world. Hard Copy was loathsome. The vicious and vile treatment of this man in the media was for selfish reasons. [Even] if you have never bought a Michael Jackson record in your life, you should be very concerned. Society is built on very few pillars. One of them is truth. When you abandon that, it's a slippery slope."

The Untold Story Ends The investigation of Jackson, which by October 1993 would grow to involve at least twelve detectives from Santa Barbara and Los Angeles counties, was instigated in part by the perceptions of one psychiatrist, Mathis Abrams, who had no particular expertise in child sexual abuse. Abrams, the DCS caseworker's report noted, "feels the child is telling the truth." In an era of widespread and often false claims of child molestation, police and prosecutors have come to give great weight to the testimony of psychiatrists, therapists and social workers. Police seized Jackson's telephone books during the raid on his residences in August and questioned close to thirty children and their families. Some, such as Brett Barnes and Wade Robson, said they had shared Jackson's bed, but like all the others, they gave the same response -- Jackson had done nothing wrong. "The evidence was very good for us," says an attorney who worked on Jackson's defense. "The other side had nothing but a big mouth." Despite the scant evidence supporting their belief that Jackson was guilty, the police stepped up their efforts. Two officers flew to the Philippines to try to nail down the Quindoys' "hand in the pants" story, but apparently decided it lacked credibility. The police also employed aggressive investigative techniques -- including allegedly telling lies -- to push the children into making accusations against Jackson. According to several parents who complained to Bert Fields, officers told them unequivocally that their children had been molested, even though the children denied to their parents that anything bad had happened. The police, Fields complained in a letter to Los Angeles Police Chief Willie Williams, "have also frightened youngsters with outrageous lies, such as 'We have nude photos of you.' There are, of course, no such photos." One officer, Federico Sicard, told attorney Michael Freeman that he had lied to the children he'd interviewed and told them that he himself had been molested as a child, says Freeman. Sicard did not respond to requests for an interview for this article. All along, June Chandler Schwartz rejected the charges Chandler was making against Jackson -- until a meeting with police in late August 1993. Officers Sicard and Rosibel Ferrufino made a statement that began to change her mind. "[The officers] admitted they only had one boy," says Freeman, who attended the meeting, "but they said, 'We're convinced Michael Jackson molested this boy because he fits the classic profile of a pedophile perfectly.' " "There's no such thing as a classic profile. They made a completely foolish and illogical error," says Dr. Ralph Underwager, a Minneapolis psychiatrist who has treated pedophiles and victims of incest since 1953. Jackson, he believes, "got nailed" because of "misconceptions like these that have been allowed to parade as fact in an era of hysteria." In truth, as a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study shows, many child-abuse allegations -- 48 percent of those filed in 1990 -- proved to be unfounded. "It was just a matter of time before someone like Jackson became a target," says Phillip Resnick. "He's rich, bizarre, hangs around with kids and there is a fragility to him. The atmosphere is such that an accusation must mean it happened."

The seeds of settlement were already being sown as the police investigation continued in both counties through the fall of 1993. And a behind-the-scenes battle among Jackson's lawyers for control of the case, which would ultimately alter the course the defense would take, had begun. By then, June Chandler Schwartz and Dave Schwartz had united with Evan Chandler against Jackson. The boy's mother, say several sources, feared what Chandler and Rothman might do if she didn't side with them. She worried that they would try to advance a charge against her of parental neglect for allowing her son to have sleepovers with Jackson. Her attorney, Michael Freeman, in turn, resigned in disgust, saying later that "the whole thing was such a mess. I felt uncomfortable with Evan. He isn't a genuine person, and I sensed he wasn't playing things straight." Over the months, lawyers for both sides were retained, demoted and ousted as they feuded over the best strategy to take. Rothman ceased being Chandler's lawyer in late August, when the Jackson camp filed extortion charges against the two. Both then hired high-priced criminal defense attorneys to represent them.. (Rothman retained Robert Shapiro, now O.J. Simpson's chief lawyer.) According to the diary kept by Rothman's former colleague, on August 26, before the extortion charges were filed, Chandler was heard to say "It's my @#%$ that's on the line and in danger of going to prison." The investigation into the extortion charges was superficial because, says a source, "the police never took it that seriously. But a whole lot more could have been done." For example, as they had done with Jackson, the police could have sought warrants to search the homes and offices of Rothman and Chandler. And when both men, through their attorneys, declined to be interviewed by police, a grand jury could have been convened. In mid-September, Larry Feldman, a civil attorney who'd served as head of the Los Angeles Trial Lawyers Association, began representing Chandler's son and immediately took control of the situation. He filed a $30 million civil lawsuit against Jackson, which would prove to be the beginning of the end. Once news of the suit spread, the wolves began lining up at the door. According to a member of Jackson's legal team, "Feldman got dozens of letters from all kinds of people saying they'd been molested by Jackson. They went through all of them trying to find somebody, and they found zero." With the possibility of criminal charges against Jackson now looming, Bert Fields brought in Howard Weitzman, a well-known criminal-defense lawyer with a string of high-profile clients -- including John DeLorean, whose trail he won, and Kim Basinger, whose Boxing Helena contract dispute he lost. (Also, for a short time this June, Weitzman was O.J. Simpson's attorney.) Some predicted a problem between the two lawyers early on. There wasn't room for two strong attorneys used to running their own show. From the day Weitzman joined Jackson's defense team, "he was talking settlement," says Bonnie Ezkenazi, an attorney who worked for the defense. With Fields and Pellicano still in control of Jackson's defense, they adopted an aggressive strategy. They believed staunchly in Jackson's innocence and vowed to fight the charges in court. Pellicano began gathering evidence to use in the trial, which was scheduled for March 21, 1994. "They had a very weak case," says Fields. "We wanted to fight. Michael wanted to fight and go through a trial. We felt we could win." Dissension within the Jackson camp accelerated on November 12, after Jackson's publicist announced at a press conference that the singer was canceling the remainder of his world tour to go into a drug- rehabilitation program to treat his addiction to painkillers. Fields later told reporters that Jackson was "barely able to function adequately on an intellectual level." Others in Jackson's camp felt it was a mistake to portray the singer as incompetent. "It was important," Fields says, "to tell the truth. [Larry] Feldman and the press took the position that Michael was trying to hide and that it was all a scam. But it wasn't." On November 23, the friction peaked. Based on information he says he got from Weitzman, Fields told a courtroom full of reporters that a criminal indictment against Jackson seemed imminent. Fields had a reason for making the statement: He was trying to delay the boy's civil suit by establishing that there was an impending criminal case that should be tried first. Outside the courtroom, reporters asked why Fields had made the announcement, to which Weitzman replied essentially that Fields "misspoke himself." The comment infuriated Fields, "because it wasn't true," he says. "It was just an outrage. I was very upset with Howard." Fields sent a letter of resignation to Jackson the following week. "There was this vast group of people all wanting to do a different thing, and it was like moving through molasses to get a decision," says Fields. "It was a nightmare, and I wanted to get the hell out of it." Pellicano, who had received his share of flak for his aggressive manner, resigned at the same time. With Fields and Pellicano gone, Weitzman brought in Johnnie Cochran Jr., a well-known civil attorney who is now helping defend O.J. Simpson. And John Branca, whom Fields had replaced as Jackson's general counsel in 1990, was back on board. In late 1993, as DAs in both Santa Barbara and Los Angeles counties convened grand juries to assess whether criminal charges should be filed against Jackson, the defense strategy changed course and talk of settling the civil case began in earnest, even though his new team also believed in Jackson's innocence. Why would Jackson's side agree to settle out of court, given his claims of innocence and the questionable evidence against him? His attorneys apparently decided there were many factors that argued against taking the case to civil court. Among them was the fact that Jackson's emotional fragility would be tested by the oppressive media coverage that would likely plague the singer day after day during a trial that could last as long as six months. Politics and racial issues had also seeped into legal proceedings -- particularly in Los Angeles, which was still recovering from the Rodney King ordeal -- and the defense feared that a court of law could not be counted on to deliver justice. Then, too, there was the jury mix to consider. As one attorney says, "They figured that Hispanics might resent [Jackson] for his money, blacks might resent him for trying to be white, and whites would have trouble getting around the molestation issue." In Resnick's opinion, "The hysteria is so great and the stigma [of child molestation] is so strong, there is no defense against it." Jackson's lawyers also worried about what might happen if a criminal trial followed, particularly in Santa Barbara, which is a largely white, conservative, middle-to-upper-class community. Any way the defense looked at it, a civil trial seemed too big a gamble. By meeting the terms of a civil settlement, sources say, the lawyers figured they could forestall a criminal trial through a tacit understanding that Chandler would agree to make his son unavailable to testify. Others close to the case say the decision to settle also probably had to do with another factor -- the lawyers' reputations. "Can you imagine what would happen to an attorney who lost the Michael Jackson case?" says Anthony Pellicano. "There's no way for all three lawyers to come out winners unless they settle. The only person who lost is Michael Jackson." But Jackson, says Branca, "changed his mind about [taking the case to trial] when he returned to this country. He hadn't seen the massive coverage and how hostile it was. He just wanted the whole thing to go away." On the other side, relationships among members of the boy's family had become bitter. During a meeting in Larry Feldman's office in late 1993, Chandler, a source says, "completely lost it and beat up Dave [Schwartz]." Schwartz, having separated from June by this time, was getting pushed out of making decisions that affected his stepson, and he resented Chandler for taking the boy and not returning him. "Dave got mad and told Evan this was all about extortion, anyway, at which point Evan stood up, walked over and started hitting Dave," a second source says.

To anyone who lived in Los Angeles in January 1994, there were two main topics of discussion -- the earthquake and the Jackson settlement. On January 25, Jackson agreed to pay the boy an undisclosed sum. The day before, Jackson's attorneys had withdrawn the extortion charges against Chandler and Rothman. The actual amount of the settlement has never been revealed, although speculation has placed the sum around $20 million. One source says Chandler and June Chandler Schwartz received up to $2 million each, while attorney Feldman might have gotten up to 25 percent in contingency fees. The rest of the money is being held in trust for the boy and will be paid out under the supervision of a court- appointed trustee. "Remember, this case was always about money," Pellicano says, "and Evan Chandler wound up getting what he wanted." Since Chandler still has custody of his son, sources contend that logically this means the father has access to any money his son gets. By late May 1994, Chandler finally appeared to be out of dentistry. He'd closed down his Beverly Hills office, citing ongoing harassment from Jackson supporters. Under the terms of the settlement, Chandler is apparently prohibited from writing about the affair, but his brother, Ray Charmatz, was reportedly trying to get a book deal. In what may turn out to be the never-ending case, this past August, both Barry Rothman and Dave Schwartz (two principal players left out of the settlement) filed civil suits against Jackson. Schwartz maintains that the singer broke up his family. Rothman's lawsuit claims defamation and slander on the part of Jackson, as well as his original defense team -- Fields, Pellicano and Weitzman -- for the allegations of extortion. "The charge of [extortion]," says Rothman attorney Aitken, "is totally untrue. Mr. Rothman has been held up for public ridicule, was the subject of a criminal investigation and suffered loss of income." (Presumably, some of Rothman's lost income is the hefty fee he would have received had he been able to continue as Chandler's attorney through the settlement phase.) As for Michael Jackson, "he is getting on with his life," says publicist Michael Levine. Now married, Jackson also recently recorded three new songs for a greatest-hits album and completed a new music video called "History." And what became of the massive investigation of Jackson? After millions of dollars were spent by prosecutors and police departments in two jurisdictions, and after two grand juries questioned close to 200 witnesses, including 30 children who knew Jackson, not a single corroborating witness could be found. (In June 1994, still determined to find even one corroborating witness, three prosecutors and two police detectives flew to Australia to again question Wade Robson, the boy who had acknowledged that he'd slept in the same bed with Jackson. Once again, the boy said that nothing bad had happened.) The sole allegations leveled against Jackson, then, remain those made by one youth, and only after the boy had been give a potent hypnotic drug, leaving him susceptible to the power of suggestion. "I found the case suspicious," says Dr. Underwager, the Minn eapolis psychiatrist, "precisely because the only evidence came from one boy. That would be highly unlikely. Actual pedophiles have an average of 240 victims in their lifetime. It's a progressive disorder. They're never satisfied." Given the slim evidence against Jackson, it seems unlikely he would have been found guilty had the case gone to trial. But in the court of public opinion, there are no restrictions. People are free to speculate as they wish, and Jackson's eccentricity leaves him vulnerable to the likelihood that the public has assumed the worst about him. So is it possible that Jackson committed no crime -- that he is what he has always purported to be, a protector and not a molester of children? Attorney Michael Freeman thinks so: "It's my feeling that Jackson did nothing wrong and these people [Chandler and Rothman] saw an opportunity and programmed it. I believe it was all about money." To some observers, the Michael Jackson story illustrates the dangerous power of accusation, against which there is often no defense -- particularly when the accusations involve child sexual abuse. To others, something else is clear now -- that police and prosecutors spent millions of dollars to create a case whose foundation never existed.

Mary A Fischer is a GQ senior writer based in Los Angeles.

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2003

Why?????????????????????????????

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2003

me ofcource!

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2003

And you do? Tell me ... who has the "better" proof here? You or I?

-- Anonymous, July 20, 2003

~~~you don't even know the truth yet for god sake!!!!!!!!!!!!! his a weirdo~~~

-- Anonymous, July 19, 2003

Now, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Bye

-- Anonymous, July 19, 2003

YOUR JUST STUPID ENOUGH NOT TO BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 19, 2003

Look ... let's just stop this. There is strong hard evidence of his innocence; there is weak circumstantial evidence of guilt. If you'd rather dismiss the hard evidence, that's your damn call.

-- Anonymous, July 19, 2003

you just don't wanna admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 19, 2003

Whatever...

Daniel

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-- Anonymous, July 19, 2003

his right Michael Jackson is guilty get over it and stop believing him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, July 18, 2003

The msnbc article says that the descriptions of MJ's body matched the one given by Jordy Chandler. The investigative report in GQ says just the opposite. The report in GQ also tells of the calls by Jordy's father in which he says he's going to "get" MJ and ruin his career ... how he was extremely jealous of MJ ... how two thorough investigations of Neverland didn't turn up anything that'd warrant a crime ... etc. You can believe what you want; but until I see any hard evidence of guilt, I'll continue to stand by Mike and the huge amount of evidence in support of his innocence. Daniel

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-- Anonymous, July 18, 2003

Daniel, MJ's former employee did not originate the alarm story. Nor did he orginate the child porn story. The police found both the nude photographs and the alarm when they searched MJ's ranch. If you'd read the msnbc article you'd know that. These are facts, not stories. MJ claims he doesn't know where the nude photographs came from (yeah right). The courts seem to have been impressed enough by this "non-existent" evidence that they scheduled a date for the trial. And the "innocent" MJ was spooked enough by this "non- existent" evidence to settle out of court with the Chandlers just weeks before trial, for the price of 15 million dollars.

Daniel, I don't think 'the smoking gun' made up that legal document. Judging from the 2/10 update on page one, MJ is fully aware the document is accurate and is not happy that it's being shown on the net. If the smoking gun has been forced to apologize, then it's probably because MJ has once again managed to do some behind the scenes string pulling.

I stand by my beliefs. And it is my belief that it was Evan Chandler, not Michael Jackson who was a victim of extortion. MJ had the power, money, and fame to extort Chandler. Chandler did not have the money, power, and fame to extort MJ.

-- Anonymous, July 17, 2003

And tell me: how the Hell is the article from GQ biased? Why don't you believe it? The reporter is an investigative journalist; that's what they do: report the facts

-- Anonymous, July 14, 2003

A while back, that smokinggun BS page posted an apology, saying that all of its "facts" were false. A while back, a former employee of Neverland that testified against his former boss -- and originated the alarm story -- admitted publicly that he lied about everything. I say again ... two thorough investigations of the ranch turned up NOTHING

Daniel

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-- Anonymous, July 14, 2003

Daniel, did you even read the webpages I showed you? The detailed search of MJ's Neverland Ranch DID turn up evidence. The police discovered nude pictures of children and an alarm that activates when you go near MJ's room to let him know when someone is approaching. And Jordy's description of MJ's genital area DID match up to the strip search to police did on MJ. A seasoned child molestation investigator has stated that he believes Jordy Chandler's story is credible, and not the work of a child who's story has been coaxed. The police also found two boys who said MJ had groped them. Unfortunately, prosecutors we not willing to move forward without someone else laying charges. As for the affidavit, I don't think that a drugged up or coaxed child could come up with such a realistic account of sexual abuse.

Really Daniel, claiming Evan Chandler manufactured molestation charges just because he was having trouble with his screenwriting career is pretty farfetched to begin with. How would you like to be Evan Chandler reading all these lies about you? As for hating MJ, I don't think he is guilty just for the sake of it, I think he is guilty because the evidence points towards his guilt. I was as much a fan as anyone up until the 1993 molestation charges, but I wasn't willing to look the other way when they came out. A lot of us used to be MJ fans. MJ strongly fits the profile of a pedophile as any psychiatrist will tell you.

You may deny all this Daniel, but MJ can't keep this a secret forever. Eventually it will come out. When it does, I'm going to hold you accountable for all the things you said.

-- Anonymous, July 14, 2003

Whatever

Look, there is strong evidence that he's innocent. There is no evidence that he's guilty. A detailed search of MJ's body ... two thorough searches of Neverland Ranch ... all turning up nothing ... the taped phone conversations by Jordy's father ... a former employee who admitted to lying to police about "suspicious" happenings in MJ's house...

Show me the evidence that he's guilty. If you take the simple affedeved and nothing more as hard evidence, hey, I could get one saying that Steven Tyler molested me, and tht'd be enough to prove that he's guilty? If the GQ article is biased, what's so God damn biased about it? Presenting clear facts, and sorting them out to prove ones innocence, is not biased.

You clearly hate MJ for some reason. Why? I don't know. But don't say he's guilty just for the sake of it. Hell, if we could do that, thousands more innocent people would be in prison.

Daniel

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-- Anonymous, July 14, 2003

Daniel, I have read the GQ article. I think it is a shamelessly biased article that views everything through the eyes of an MJ supporter. The article quotes anonymous sources and "friends". It talks about the suspicious actions of Evan Chandler in handling the case, when suspscion is only in the eyes of the beholder. The article even admits that MJ, his attorneys, and Evan Chandler were not interviewed. As for the taped conversation, I think I might feel spiteful towards MJ if I knew he was molesting my child, and I might feel spiteful towards my ex if I knew she was pimping my son.

Contrary to what you may think Daniel, I do use my mind. I've looked non-judmentally at the case and stated rational arguments and concluded that MJ is guilty. And what kind of an argument is "PPPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE" anyway? It's you who needs to use your mind. I notice you didn't deny that several former employees claimed they saw MJ molesting kids, nor the fact that MJ's sister has spoken out againt him, that MJ masturbates while performing, his plastic surgery, or that sexual abuse runs in the Jackson family.

You want evidence? Read the unbiased article at www.msnbc.com/news/873875.asp. It would seem the police DO have evidence, but cannot use it until someone else goes forward (hence keeping the case innactive but open). See also the lawsuit filed by Jordy Chandler at www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html.

Poor Jordy Chandler. He has to suffer through sexual abuse, parental feuding, and a media blitz, yet MJ supporters would have you believe that Michael Jackson was the true victim. Poor Evan Chandler. Another casualty of "kill the messenger" syndrome.

-- Anonymous, July 14, 2003

And you mention evidence. "Where" is tbhis so-called evidence? Read the GQ article!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daniel

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-- Anonymous, July 13, 2003

Oh God.

PPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEE -- Read my posts above, and actually think about it (With your head, as opposed to, well, nevermind... )

And he DOES NOT bleach his skin! Did you know that using skin bleach is actually lethal? People in other countries who use bleach on their skin are dying; Did you know that? MJ does have vitiligo. While he's performing, red blemishes are easily visible on his face (Want the greatest example? Watch his 30th anniversary concert). Since THRILLER, his face has exhibited signs of vitiligo!

Daniel

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Hello people. I just want to say I find it staggering that Michael Jackson can get all these supportive comments considering what we've seen about him all these years. Michael Jackson strongly fits the profile of a pedophile. He cultivates relationships with children, he invites them to sleep over, he has children travel with him on his tours, he has admitted to having children in his bed, he grabs his crotch and masturbates in his music videos and onstage, he is obsessed with Peter Pan. Several former employees have stated they saw MJ molesting kids, and his own sister LaToya has said she has seen her brother making payments to the families of his victims to gain their silence. We know there is some history of sexual abuse in the Jackson family. Besides the beatings Joe Jackson subjected his family to, Janet and La Toya have also said that their father molested them. La Toya has also stated that Michael was sexually molested as a child BEFORE his child molestation scandal. What more evidence do you need?

Even exluding the scandal, we've seen more than enough evidence that MJ is not right in the head. His addiction to plastic surgery, his bleaching his skin (while claiming he has vitiligo), his reclusiveness, his wearing masks in public, and most of all dangling his infant son over the balcony of his hotel room.

For those who claim that the child molestation charges were an attempt to extort money from MJ, I ask you this. How were the Chandlers in any position to extort Michael Jackson? Michael Jackson is a rich and powerful man with millions of fans ready to rally to his side, the Chandlers in contrast did not have millions of dollars, power, or millions of fans to support them. By filing charges against MJ the Chandlers, already reeling from the trauma of what had happened to their son subjected themselves to a media barrage and the wrath of fans who refused to believe them. Let me ask a question to all MJ fans, how would you like your child to be molested and then be called a liar when you accused the culprit? Moreover, how would you like your child to be molested and then have millions of people call you a liar? Most likely the rumours that the Chandlers were trying to extort money were spread by MJ himself, just as in the eighties he spread false rumours about him sleeping in a hyperbolic chamber and purchasing the bones of the elephant man. It is my belief that if the charges against MJ really were baseless then MJ would have fought them in court. MJ has been perfectly willing to fight lawsuits in court in the past.

Considering what the Chandlers went through, it's not surprising they chose to accept the money and drop the charges, rather than subject their son to the trauma of testifying in court and possibly getting nothing. I realize it is difficult to believe bad things about a person many of us have worshipped, but to look the other way in the face of all the evidence is just plain selfish and irresponsible. Protecting children from sexual predators is more important than protecting the benign image of a celebrity.

-- Anonymous, July 12, 2003

my name is cristina gomez, and i am another very big fan of michael jackson!, and im only 15. i have loved this man since i can remember!, and i KNOW! HE IS FUCKIN INNOCENT!, people are just fucking jeleous, everyone seems to forget every thing he has done for children! all around the world. and if i can understand that so should all the fucked up mj haters. he didnt pay them off cause his guilty, he did it so they could fuckin leave him alone!,little did he think that there is so many fucked up people in this world, who believe every little thing that is written by the media!, now, if u can honestly say u believe what the rumors say, im sorry, BUT YOU ARE VERY FUCKED UP AND SICK! PEOPLE. grow up and think for yourself, and fuckin leave him alone. HE IS THE FUCKIN GREATEST ENTERTAINER, AND HUMAN BEING IN THE WORLD! His music has helped me through a hell of alot of bad times, like my fathers death, i felt alot of confort in his words and music. so shut the FUCK up and let the man live in peace, he deserves that, i truly believe in him, and ill always will. I LOVE MICHAEL JACKSON FOREVER!!!

-- Anonymous, July 04, 2003

I love Michael & have yet to see proof that he's guilty. People on here say that he fits the criteria of a molester. That makes him more vulnerable to false accusations & extortion. Daniel, you are so right.

-- Anonymous, July 01, 2003

Where is your proof then?

I say again:

Michael Jackson is not a pedophile; there is no proof. There is, however, plenty of proof that he's innocent, ie the thorough investigation described in GQ or the simple fact that photos of MJ's genitals do not match the descriptions given to authorities by the boy. Police even investigated Neverland and found absolutely no sign or signs of any wrongdoing on Michael's part. If you are taking the fact that he sleeps next to children as proof of the man being a pedophile, Did you ever consider that the man might just be a little more loving and compassionate than you or I? They -- the children -- request to spend the night in his room; he complies. So what? He sees nothing wrong with it, and neither do the parents. Just because everybody all might sleep in the same bed does not automatically make them a pedophile. How many parents have slept in the same bed with their children? What about comforting them in bed if they're sick with a fever or, God forbid, cancer? Is that pedophilia, or just love? Children are innocent; the younger they get, the more innocent they become. In a world where many things seem as if they want us to grow up too fast, it is often nice to just sit back and take in that childhood innocence; whether it be climbing a tree, riding a ferris wheel or even opening up ones house to children. I realize it is hard for some of you to accept the fact that a 44 year old man is allowing children to sleep in his room. Yet, Is anything innapropriate taking place within that bedroom? Is it really that wrong to show this much love and compassion? I think not. Many people are too quick to judge; they hear the world "sleep" and immediately assume "having sex." Yet, allow me to put it this way: If everybody in the world were as loving as Michael Jackson; if everyone were as compassionate as Michael Jackson; if every single human being were just as willing to open up not only their house, not only their bed, but their heart as well; if we all had a big enough heart to accept this much innocence and precious beauty into our lives, then the world would be a better place to live. Michael Jackson once wrote "What have I got that I can give?" We should all take these words in stride; we should all accept them with open arms.

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-- Anonymous, June 24, 2003

Yes, Michael Jackson is a pedophile. He meets every criteria of the pedophile profile. Pedophiles, unlike blatant child molesters, are often seen as kind and helpful individuals with a great love for children. However, all the while they are grooming kids for seduction. When his family and friends and the community find out the man they loved and trusted is a pedophile, they are truly shocked and amazed. For further information, please visit my webpage and also check out the professional/educational links listed in the middle of the page. http://www.tigerhawktalk.com/howpedophilesoperate.html Please educate yourselves on this very serious issue and find out how to protect kids from pedophiles and online predators. STAMP OUT PEDOPHILIA NOW!!! You young people who keep sticking up for Michael Jackson should educate yourselves, as well. No one is saying that Michael Jackson is not a very gifted and talented singer and dancer. We are, however, saying that he most certainly does meet the pedophile profile. No adult in their right mind would allow their kids to sleep in his bed. He needs serious psychological help.

-- Anonymous, June 21, 2003

Ok, here's the thing, u gots 2 look at the basics, they found no evidence of child molestation to date. Also, that boy jordy gave a description of michael jackson's body, and every single thing he said was not even close 2 matching any part of his body. Anotha thang, in a secretely recorded phone conversation, jordy's dad said that he was gonna ruin michael's career just cuz michael didn't wanna support his crappy scripts in hollywood. After the phone conversation, he took his son to some people that drugged him up, the effect was similar to hypnosis, so whatever was told to the boy, he would believe is true. The "dad" said that he was gonna win in the end, but thats not true, cuz he quit his regular job cuz michael jackson fans kept protesting against him, and he never made it to hollywood, like he wanted 2. so who wins in the long-run??? Michael Jackson does. I personally think that the boy's dad should go to jail, for drugging up his son to confess a false statement, for suing someone about something he KNEW wasn't true and for saying what he said on the secretly recorded phone conversation (as evidence), saying that he will ruin michael as a revenge plot. So, I think that Michael Jackson is completely innocent (if not, then let God deal with him.)

-- Anonymous, June 20, 2003

i think the bottom line is this ,if Michael jackson in 2003 still looked like the Handsome Mj from the Thriller cover,if he still looked like that today,Haters would give his side of the story more of a chance,u can deny this all u want,but u know its true. If Mj still had that great look,smiling,the handsome face,u would give his side of the story more of a chance,but since in 2003 he looks much different,u just automatically assume,ooooooh my goooood he did it,he's guilty,he has sex with 12 yr olds.

anyone can go to the police and make a statement,it doesnt always mean its true,that Smokey gun statement Chandler gave to police,Michael has a defense to that,but HATERS,refuse to read it,its like u only pay attention to the accusations,and refuse to read or listen to michaels side of the story. If thats the case,then anyone eevn accused of something in this world,should automatically be found guilty,and be sent to prison. I can have my little brother right now go to the police and lie about basketball player Michael jordan molesting him at the summer Basketball camp,since nobody listens to the accusers side of the story,Jordan would be sent to prison,because nobody listens to accusers side of the story.

HATERS....read the 1994 GQ article before making a judgement on Michael jackson,the article came from the SECRETARY of Jordy chandlers father,reeeeeeead Chandlers secretary is the 1 who came out with this,she worked in Chandlers dental office,and said Chandler framed Mj. Now if this isnt crucual evidents that potentially proves Michael was innocent all along,then i dont know what is...SECRETARY for the boys father saying this is very crucial. Michale refused to give chandler money for a movie deal,just weeks before the charges were filed,also he was on tape bragging about how he had a plan that would ruin Michaels career,and how he couldnt lose. READ THE ARTICLE

another thing in 1993 the police interviewed over 500 kids that had gone to neverland ranch,including McCulley culkin,they interviewed former kids that were then grown up in 93,ALLLLLL OF THEM DEFENDED MICHAEL JACKSON,with experience detectives trying to pressure these kids in to admitting,THEY STILL DEFENDED MICHAEL.

bottom line is if Michael had molested kids,EXPERIENCE DETECTIVES would EASILYYYYYYYYY get them to admit in interviews,i dont care how much these kids love mJ,if they were molested veteran detectives would easily get 11 yrs olds to admit.....BUT THEY DIDNT,THEY ALL DEFENDED MICHAEL

so it comes down to 1 kid only,not multiple....READ 94 GQ ARTICLE....THAT 1 KIDS FATHER MADE HIM LIE

-- Anonymous, June 05, 2003

lewis is cool

-- Anonymous, June 04, 2003

question? did u haters eevn read the 1994 GQ article which was posted up above,or did u just ignore that article,like the media has the last 10 yrs,and continue blah blah blah Mj is a pedophile. Because from the looks of it,it sounds like u didnt even read the darn article. ITS not a article that some fan just made up,it was in the 1994 GQ magazine November isssue,Comedian Steve Harvey has it on his website...STEVEHARVEY.COM.....WAS MJ FRAMED

in 1993 the police interviewed over 500 kids,1 of the most expensive investigations ever,because Mj was a huuuuuge celebrity the Police had ot make sure they took there time,and interviewed all the kids they could. Over 500 kids interviewed defended Michael,saying he was nothing like that,all the kids. Detectives trying to manipulate certain kids,trying to use there experience to make these kids admit certain things,but ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of them said Michael did absolutely nothing inapropriate to them,and this is after EXPERIENCE DETECTIVES has interviwed these kids over and over and over,trying to pressure them in to admitting,but they all continued defending mj.

McCulley Culken is the god father of michaels son prince,now grown up,still best of friends with mj

Emanuel Lewis...now grown up,still best of friends with Mj

Haters it was 1 kid,and 1 lie,it was never multiple kids,it was 1 kid,the police searched michaels Neverland home,they searched the ENCINO home,plus they interviewed over 500 kids,that alll were pressured by Detectives,and alllll still defended Mj.

true pedophiles...if u were ot interview over 500 kids associated with them,at least 50 at the very least would at least say something happen,in Michaels case over 500 kids all defended Mj.

this makes the 1994 GQ article true,and Mj being a pedophile false,why on earth would the father take the money and run,especially if his son was molested like that.

-- Anonymous, June 04, 2003

MICHEAL RULES HE IS THE KING SHOW R E S P E C T

-- Anonymous, May 31, 2003

No I do not think Michael Jackson is a pedophile.People need to look into the facts about what went on before they make accusations.People are so quick to believe the bad than the good.The media is so screwed up now.They need to get the facts straight.Who cares if some ignorant people believe Michael did it?It doesn't matter because Michael, I believe you and I love you.

-- Anonymous, May 30, 2003

But he is doing & has done nothing wrong. There is no proof that he has sex with children. He is in his mid-forties and loves the innocence of children; what's wrong with that? I still love Sesame Street, the muppets, Arthur, the Berenstain Bears, Scooby Doo, the Smurfs, Doug, Rocko's Modern Life, Tiny Toons, Looney Tunes, Care Bears, Goof Troop, Talespin, Gummi Bears, Rescue Rangers, Recess, Pepper Ann, etc. I also enjoy watching current cartoons such as Hey Arnold, Life with Ginger and Spongebob Squarepants; and I love the Harry Potter films. I love walking around the Nickelodeon area at Great America and getting my picture taken with theme park characters. I love being around younger children. Does all of this prove that I am or will become a pedophile? I think not.

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-- Anonymous, May 19, 2003

Michael Jackson is a very sad individual. I believe that he suffers from a multitude of mental disorders, one of them being pedophilia. I hope that he gets help soon. I don't think it is necessary to respond to his antics with hate, however, I understand the other poster's anger. Michael has lived a life that none of us will ever understand or comprehend. I think that he at one point was a very sweet person, he truly did not mean any harm to anyone but he got carried away with his warped thinking. He has suffered numerous nervous breakdowns and apparently has never gotten over the abuse he suffered as a child.

I don't think it is appropriate for him to have "friendships" with any minors; Michael should seek counseling for this among other issues, but we have to remember to love the sinner and hate the sin. He is a child of God, he has made many mistakes in his life but someone should come to him with nothing but love and try to influence him to seek help. The poor children (his and others) need this even more than he does. I feel bad to read the ridicule but I understand we are all entitled to our opinions. His children should be the focus, not him because they truly are the "innocent" ones.

-- Anonymous, May 19, 2003

You can contact MJ, but it'll take him months, probably years, to reply :). I wrote him a heartfelt letter two years ago, and I have yet to get one back.

-- Anonymous, May 18, 2003

No, Michael never was that way..... and he never will be. I think it is absolutely terrible for such false allegations (from the devil) to get so far out of hand.....Michael is a Child of God. He is a Christian...... The devil loves to mess with Christians.....I am 36 years old and practically saw Michael grow up..... from the Jackson 5 until now......I am currently studying law because my husband and I are currently facing similar coincidences..... of false allegations and lies (satan is the father of lies). My husband and I are not child molestors..... Yet, our kids were taken away from us and we have been treated as though we were..... These statements haunt our family night and day because we know and God knows that they are not true.... The devil had a foothold, and tried to destroy our family. We are indigents and have never had the money for a lawyer to fight this lie on paperwork.... That is why I am studying Law.... The devil came here to lie, steal, and destroy..... That is what he loves to do..... My husband has served far too long in prison.... and the devil doesn't want for my husband to get out.... but, God does have the revenge..... So, we can only give it to God....As a matter of fact, my husband is from Cuba and he brought Jesus Christ into my life. I was 30 years old when I accepted Jesus... and I thank God for Daniel, my husband..... At this very moment, the devil is trying to get my husband deported from this country...... Please keep us in your prayers.... and if anyone knows how I can contact Michael Jackson with regards to this issue.... please let me know, and may God bless you abundantly for your efforts.... Our kids were taken away in 1997..... Our parental rights were illegally taken away...... and all we want is for my husband to come home to me.... and fight to get our kids back...... Thank-you so much for your help and prayers.....

-- Anonymous, May 14, 2003

I think that all you MJ haters are so pathetic!! You dont know when you've got something good. I'm sure all those many many fans would agree that MJ isnt that type of person. Let the man live his life the way he deserves and keep your hatred to yourself. All he's done to you was give years of amazing entertainment and joy!!! You haters need to open your eyes and ears to the truth and realise what he's done for us all (not just the starving and ill). MJ is such a great guy and he doesnt deserve this slander. Leave the man alone and find a new hobbie!!!

-- Anonymous, May 06, 2003

I do not think that Michael Jackson is a pedophile. I think thta he is just a little boy trapped inside the body of a 44 year old man

-- Anonymous, May 05, 2003

i agree with you Daniel! LISTEN HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to prove to you people that his a molester is to go to this site and read the declaration.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html

-- Anonymous, April 23, 2003

But what in the article says to you that he molests children? This tells of a thorough investigation that proves his innocence; what in the article tells you otherwise? What would convince you that he does not have sex w/children?

-- Anonymous, April 18, 2003

Daniel, It only proves (in your own mind) what you want it to prove. That doesn't make it so. I suggest you go fuck yourself and if you happen to be underage, I am sure Michael will accommodate you on your efforts to do so. Now, piss off!!!!!

-- Anonymous, April 17, 2003

DID MICHAEL DO IT? The untold story of the events that brought down a superstar.

Before O.J. Simpson, there was Michael Jackson -- another beloved black celebrity seemingly brought down by allegations of scandal in his personal life. Those allegations -- that Jackson had molested a 13-year-old boy -- instigated a multimillion-dollar lawsuit, two grand-jury investigations and a shameless media circus. Jackson, in turn, filed charges of extortion against some of his accusers. Ultimately, the suit was settled out of court for a sum that has been estimated at $20 million; no criminal charges were brought against Jackson by the police or the grand juries. This past August, Jackson was in the news again, when Lisa Marie Presley, Elvis's daughter, announced that she and the singer had married.

As the dust settles on one of the nation's worst episodes of media excess, one thing is clear: The American public has never heard a defense of Michael Jackson. Until now.

It is, of course, impossible to prove a negative -- that is, prove that something didn't happen. But it is possible to take an in-depth look at the people who made the allegations against Jackson and thus gain insight into their character and motives. What emerges from such an examination, based on court documents, business records and scores of interviews, is a persuasive argument that Jackson molested no one and that he himself may have been the victim of a well- conceived plan to extract money from him.

More than that, the story that arises from this previously unexplored territory is radically different from the tale that has been promoted by tabloid and even mainstream journalists. It is a story of greed, ambition, misconceptions on the part of police and prosecutors, a lazy and sensation-seeking media and the use of a powerful, hypnotic drug. It may also be a story about how a case was simply invented.

Neither Michael Jackson nor his current defense attorneys agreed to be interviewed for this article. Had they decided to fight the civil charges and go to trial, what follows might have served as the core of Jackson's defense -- as well as the basis to further the extortion charges against his own accusers, which could well have exonerated the singer.

Jackson's troubles began when his van broke down on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles in May 1992. Stranded in the middle of the heavily trafficked street, Jackson was spotted by the wife of Mel Green, an employee at Rent-a-Wreck, an offbeat car-rental agency a mile away. Green went to the rescue. When Dave Schwartz, the owner of the car-rental company, heard Green was bringing Jackson to the lot, he called his wife, June, and told her to come over with their 6-year-old daughter and her son from her previous marriage. The boy, then 12, was a big Jackson fan. Upon arriving, June Chandler Schwartz told Jackson about the time her son had sent him a drawing after the singer's hair caught on fire during the filming of a Pepsi commercial. Then she gave Jackson their home number.

"It was almost like she was forcing [the boy] on him," Green recalls. "I think Michael thought he owed the boy something, and that's when it all started."

Certain facts about the relationship are not in dispute. Jackson began calling the boy, and a friendship developed. After Jackson returned from a promotional tour, three months later, June Chandler Schwartz and her son and daughter became regular guests at Neverland, Jackson's ranch in Santa Barbara County. During the following year, Jackson showered the boy and his family with attention and gifts, including video games, watches, an after-hours shopping spree at Toys "R" Us and trips around the world -- from Las Vegas and Disney World to Monaco and Paris.

By March 1993, Jackson and the boy were together frequently and the sleepovers began. June Chandler Schwartz had also become close to Jackson "and liked him enormously," one friend says. "He was the kindest man she had ever met."

Jackson's personal eccentricities -- from his attempts to remake his face through plastic surgery to his preference for the company of children -- have been widely reported. And while it may be unusual for a 35-year-old man to have sleepovers with a 13-year-old child, the boy's mother and others close to Jackson never thought it odd. Jackson's behavior is better understood once it's put in the context of his own childhood.

"Contrary to what you might think, Michael's life hasn't been a walk in the park," one of his attorneys says. Jackson's childhood essentially stopped -- and his unorthodox life began -- when he was 5 years old and living in Gary, Indiana. Michael spent his youth in rehearsal studios, on stages performing before millions of strangers and sleeping in an endless string of hotel rooms. Except for his eight brothers and sisters, Jackson was surrounded by adults who pushed him relentlessly, particularly his father, Joe Jackson -- a strict, unaffectionate man who reportedly beat his children.

Jackson's early experiences translated into a kind of arrested development, many say, and he became a child in a man's body. "He never had a childhood," says Bert Fields, a former attorney of Jackson's. "He is having one now. His buddies are 12-year-old kids. They have pillow fights and food fights." Jackson's interest in children also translated into humanitarian efforts. Over the years, he has given millions to causes benefiting children, including his own Heal The World Foundation.

But there is another context -- the one having to do with the times in which we live -- in which most observers would evaluate Jackson's behavior. "Given the current confusion and hysteria over child sexual abuse," says Dr. Phillip Resnick, a noted Cleveland psychiatrist, "any physical or nurturing contact with a child may be seen as suspicious, and the adult could well be accused of sexual misconduct."

Jackson's involvement with the boy was welcomed, at first, by all the adults in the youth's life -- his mother, his stepfather and even his biological father, Evan Chandler (who also declined to be interviewed for this article). Born Evan Robert Charmatz in the Bronx in 1944, Chandler had reluctantly followed in the footsteps of his father and brothers and become a dentist. "He hated being a dentist," a family friend says. "He always wanted to be a writer." After moving in 1973 to West Palm Beach to practice dentistry, he changed his last name, believing Charmatz was "too Jewish-sounding," says a former colleague. Hoping somehow to become a screenwriter, Chandler moved to Los Angeles in the late Seventies with his wife, June Wong, an attractive Eurasian who had worked briefly as a model.

Chandler's dental career had its precarious moments. In December 1978, while working at the Crenshaw Family Dental Center, a clinic in a low-income area of L.A., Chandler did restoration work on sixteen of a patient's teeth during a single visit. An examination of the work, the Board of Dental Examiners concluded, revealed "gross ignorance and/or inefficiency" in his profession. The board revoked his license; however, the revocation was stayed, and the board instead suspended him for ninety days and placed him on probation for two and a half years. Devastated, Chandler left town for New York. He wrote a film script but couldn't sell it.

Months later, Chandler returned to L.A. with his wife and held a series of dentistry jobs. By 1980, when their son was born, the couple's marriage was in trouble. "One of the reasons June left Evan was because of his temper," a family friend says. They divorced in 1985. The court awarded sole custody of the boy to his mother and ordered Chandler to pay $500 a month in child support, but a review of documents reveals that in 1993, when the Jackson scandal broke, Chandler owed his ex-wife $68,000 -- a debt she ultimately forgave.

A year before Jackson came into his son's life, Chandler had a second serious professional problem. One of his patients, a model, sued him for dental negligence after he did restoration work on some of her teeth. Chandler claimed that the woman had signed a consent form in which she'd acknowledged the risks involved. But when Edwin Zinman, her attorney, asked to see the original records, Chandler said they had been stolen from the trunk of his Jaguar. He provided a duplicate set. Zinman, suspicious, was unable to verify the authenticity of the records. "What an extraordinary coincidence that they were stolen," Zinman says now. "That's like saying 'The dog ate my homework.' " The suit was eventually settled out of court for an undisclosed sum.

Despite such setbacks, Chandler by then had a successful practice in Beverly Hills. And he got his first break in Hollywood in 1992, when he cowrote the Mel Brooks film Robin Hood: Men in Tights. Until Michael Jackson entered his son's life, Chandler hadn't shown all that much interest in the boy. "He kept promising to buy him a computer so they could work on scripts together, but he never did," says Michael Freeman, formerly an attorney for June Chandler Schwartz. Chandler's dental practice kept him busy, and he had started a new family by then, with two small children by his second wife, a corporate attorney.

At first, Chandler welcomed and encouraged his son's relationship with Michael Jackson, bragging about it to friends and associates. When Jackson and the boy stayed with Chandler during May 1993, Chandler urged the entertainer to spend more time with his son at his house. According to sources, Chandler even suggested that Jackson build an addition onto the house so the singer could stay there. After calling the zoning department and discovering it couldn't be done, Chandler made another suggestion -- that Jackson just build him a new home.

That same month, the boy, his mother and Jackson flew to Monaco for the World Music Awards. "Evan began to get jealous of the involvement and felt left out," Freeman says. Upon their return, Jackson and the boy again stayed with Chandler, which pleased him -- a five-day visit, during which they slept in a room with the youth's half brother. Though Chandler has admitted that Jackson and the boy always had their clothes on whenever he saw them in bed together, he claimed that it was during this time that his suspicions of sexual misconduct were triggered. At no time has Chandler claimed to have witnessed any sexual misconduct on Jackson's part.

Chandler became increasingly volatile, making threats that alienated Jackson, Dave Schwartz and June Chandler Schwartz. In early July 1993, Dave Schwartz, who had been friendly with Chandler, secretly tape-recorded a lengthy telephone conversation he had with him. During the conversation, Chandler talked of his concern for his son and his anger at Jackson and at his ex-wife, whom he described as "cold and heartless." When Chandler tried to "get her attention" to discuss his suspicions about Jackson, he says on the tape, she told him "Go fuck yourself."

"I had a good communication with Michael," Chandler told Schwartz. "We were friends. I liked him and I respected him and everything else for what he is. There was no reason why he had to stop calling me. I sat in the room one day and talked to Michael and told him exactly what I want out of this whole relationship. What I want."

Admitting to Schwartz that he had "been rehearsed" about what to say and what not to say, Chandler never mentioned money during their conversation. When Schwartz asked what Jackson had done that made Chandler so upset, Chandler alleged only that "he broke up the family. [The boy] has been seduced by this guy's power and money." Both men repeatedly berated themselves as poor fathers to the boy.

Elsewhere on the tape, Chandler indicated he was prepared to move against Jackson: "It's already set," Chandler told Schwartz. "There are other people involved that are waiting for my phone call that are in certain positions. I've paid them to do it. Everything's going according to a certain plan that isn't just mine. Once I make that phone call, this guy [his attorney, Barry K. Rothman, presumably] is going to destroy everybody in sight in any devious, nasty, cruel way that he can do it. And I've given him full authority to do that."

Chandler then predicted what would, in fact, transpire six weeks later: "And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I've checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]...and Michael's career will be over."

"Does that help [the boy]?" Schwartz asked.

"That's irrelevant to me," Chandler replied. "It's going to be bigger than all of us put together. The whole thing is going to crash down on everybody and destroy everybody in sight. It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want."

Instead of going to the police, seemingly the most appropriate action in a situation involving suspected child molestation, Chandler had turned to a lawyer. And not just any lawyer. He'd turned to Barry Rothman.

"This attorney I found, I picked the nastiest son of a bitch I could find," Chandler said in the recorded conversation with Schwartz. "All he wants to do is get this out in the public as fast as he can, as big as he can, and humiliate as many people as he can. He's nasty, he's mean, he's very smart, and he's hungry for the publicity." (Through his attorney, Wylie Aitken, Rothman declined to be interviewed for this article. Aitken agreed to answer general questions limited to the Jackson case, and then only about aspects that did not involve Chandler or the boy.)

To know Rothman, says a former colleague who worked with him during the Jackson case, and who kept a diary of what Rothman and Chandler said and did in Rothman's office, is to believe that Barry could have "devised this whole plan, period. This [making allegations against Michael Jackson] is within the boundary of his character, to do something like this." Information supplied by Rothman's former clients, associates and employees reveals a pattern of manipulation and deceit.

Rothman has a general-law practice in Century City. At one time, he negotiated music and concert deals for Little Richard, the Rolling Stones, the Who, ELO and Ozzy Osbourne. Gold and platinum records commemorating those days still hang on the walls of his office. With his grayish-white beard and perpetual tan -- which he maintains in a tanning bed at his house -- Rothman reminds a former client of "a leprechaun." To a former employee, Rothman is "a demon" with "a terrible temper." His most cherished possession, acquaintances say, is his 1977 Rolls-Royce Corniche, which carries the license plate " BKR 1."

Over the years, Rothman has made so many enemies that his ex-wife once expressed, to her attorney, surprise that someone "hadn't done him in." He has a reputation for stiffing people. "He appears to be a professional deadbeat... He pays almost no one," investigator Ed Marcus concluded (in a report filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, as part of a lawsuit against Rothman), after reviewing the attorney's credit profile, which listed more than thirty creditors and judgment holders who were chasing him. In addition, more than twenty civil lawsuits involving Rothman have been filed in Superior Court, several complaints have been made to the Labor Commission and disciplinary actions for three incidents have been taken against him by the state bar of California. In 1992, he was suspended for a year, though that suspension was stayed and he was instead placed on probation for the term.

In 1987, Rothman was $16,800 behind in alimony and child-support payments. Through her attorney, his ex-wife, Joanne Ward, threatened to attach Rothman's assets, but he agreed to make good on the debt. A year later, after Rothman still hadn't made the payments, Ward's attorney tried to put a lien on Rothman's expensive Sherman Oaks home. To their surprise, Rothman said he no longer owned the house; three years earlier, he'd deeded the property to Tinoa Operations, Inc., a Panamanian shell corporation. According to Ward's lawyer, Rothman claimed that he'd had $200,000 of Tinoa's money, in cash, at his house one night when he was robbed at gunpoint. The only way he could make good on the loss was to deed his home to Tinoa, he told them. Ward and her attorney suspected the whole scenario was a ruse, but they could never prove it. It was only after sheriff's deputies had towed away Rothman's Rolls Royce that he began paying what he owed.

Documents filed with Los Angeles Superior Court seem to confirm the suspicions of Ward and her attorney. These show that Rothman created an elaborate network of foreign bank accounts and shell companies, seemingly to conceal some of his assets -- in particular, his home and much of the $531,000 proceeds from its eventual sale, in 1989. The companies, including Tinoa, can be traced to Rothman. He bought a Panamanian shelf company (an existing but nonoperating firm) and arranged matters so that though his name would not appear on the list of its officers, he would have unconditional power of attorney, in effect leaving him in control of moving money in and out.

Meanwhile, Rothman's employees didn't fare much better than his ex- wife. Former employees say they sometimes had to beg for their paychecks. And sometimes the checks that they did get would bounce. He couldn't keep legal secretaries. "He'd demean and humiliate them," says one. Temporary workers fared the worst. "He would work them for two weeks," adds the legal secretary, "then run them off by yelling at them and saying they were stupid. Then he'd tell the agency he was dissatisfied with the temp and wouldn't pay." Some agencies finally got wise and made Rothman pay cash up front before they'd do business with him.

The state bar's 1992 disciplining of Rothman grew out of a conflict- of-interest matter. A year earlier, Rothman had been kicked off a case by a client, Muriel Metcalf, whom he'd been representing in child-support and custody proceedings; Metcalf later accused him of padding her bill. Four months after Metcalf fired him, Rothman, without notifying her, began representing the company of her estranged companion, Bob Brutzman.

The case is revealing for another reason: It shows that Rothman had some experience dealing with child-molestation allegations before the Jackson scandal. Metcalf, while Rothman was still representing her, had accused Brutzman of molesting their child (which Brutzman denied). Rothman's knowledge of Metcalf's charges didn't prevent him from going to work for Brutzman's company -- a move for which he was disciplined.

By 1992, Rothman was running from numerous creditors. Folb Management, a corporate real-estate agency, was one. Rothman owed the company $53,000 in back rent and interest for an office on Sunset Boulevard. Folb sued. Rothman then countersued, claiming that the building's security was so inadequate that burglars were able to steal more than $6,900 worth of equipment from his office one night. In the course of the proceedings, Folb's lawyer told the court, "Mr. Rothman is not the kind of person whose word can be taken at face value."

In November 1992, Rothman had his law firm file for bankruptcy, listing thirteen creditors -- including Folb Management -- with debts totaling $880,000 and no acknowledged assets. After reviewing the bankruptcy papers, an ex-client whom Rothman was suing for $400,000 in legal fees noticed that Rothman had failed to list a $133,000 asset. The former client threatened to expose Rothman for "defrauding his creditors" -- a felony -- if he didn't drop the lawsuit. Cornered, Rothman had the suit dismissed in a matter of hours.

Six months before filing for bankruptcy, Rothman had transferred title on his Rolls-Royce to Majo, a fictitious company he controlled. Three years earlier, Rothman had claimed a different corporate owner for the car -- Longridge Estates, a subsidiary of Tinoa Operations, the company that held the deed to his home. On corporation papers filed by Rothman, the addresses listed for Longridge and Tinoa were the same, 1554 Cahuenga Boulevard -- which, as it turns out, is that of a Chinese restaurant in Hollywood.

It was with this man, in June 1993, that Evan Chandler began carrying out the "certain plan" to which he referred in his taped conversation with Dave Schwartz. At a graduation that month, Chandler confronted his ex-wife with his suspicions. "She thought the whole thing was baloney," says her ex-attorney, Michael Freeman. She told Chandler that she planned to take their son out of school in the fall so they could accompany Jackson on his "Dangerous" world tour. Chandler became irate and, say several sources, threatened to go public with the evidence he claimed he had on Jackson. "What parent in his right mind would want to drag his child into the public spotlight?" asks Freeman. "If something like this actually occurred, you'd want to protect your child."

Jackson asked his then-lawyer, Bert Fields, to intervene. One of the most prominent attorneys in the entertainment industry, Fields has been representing Jackson since 1990 and had negotiated for him, with Sony, the biggest music deal ever -- with possible earnings of $700 million. Fields brought in investigator Anthony Pellicano to help sort things out. Pellicano does things Sicilian-style, being fiercely loyal to those he likes but a ruthless hardball player when it comes to his enemies.

On July 9, 1993, Dave Schwartz and June Chandler Schwartz played the taped conversation for Pellicano. "After listening to the tape for ten minutes, I knew it was about extortion," says Pellicano. That same day, he drove to Jackson's Century City condominium, where Chandler's son and the boy's half-sister were visiting. Without Jackson there, Pellicano "made eye contact" with the boy and asked him, he says, "very pointed questions": "Has Michael ever touched you? Have you ever seen him naked in bed?" The answer to all the questions was no. The boy repeatedly denied that anything bad had happened. On July 11, after Jackson had declined to meet with Chandler, the boy's father and Rothman went ahead with another part of the plan -- they needed to get custody of the boy. Chandler asked his ex-wife to let the youth stay with him for a "one-week visitation period." As Bert Fields later said in an affidavit to the court, June Chandler Schwartz allowed the boy to go based on Rothman's assurance to Fields that her son would come back to her after the specified time, never guessing that Rothman's word would be worthless and that Chandler would not return their son.

Wylie Aitken, Rothman's attorney, claims that "at the time [Rothman] gave his word, it was his intention to have the boy returned." However, once "he learned that the boy would be whisked out of the country [to go on tour with Jackson], I don't think Mr. Rothman had any other choice." But the chronology clearly indicates that Chandler had learned in June, at the graduation, that the boy's mother planned to take her son on the tour. The taped telephone conversation made in early July, before Chandler took custody of his son, also seems to verify that Chandler and Rothman had no intention of abiding by the visitation agreement. "They [the boy and his mother] don't know it yet," Chandler told Schwartz, "but they aren't going anywhere."

On July 12, one day after Chandler took control of his son, he had his ex-wife sign a document prepared by Rothman that prevented her from taking the youth out of Los Angeles County. This meant the boy would be unable to accompany Jackson on the tour. His mother told the court she signed the document under duress. Chandler, she said in an affidavit, had threatened that "I would not have [the boy] returned to me." A bitter custody battle ensued, making even murkier any charges Chandler made about wrong-doing on Jackson's part. (As of this August [1994], the boy was still living with Chandler.) It was during the first few weeks after Chandler took control of his son -- who was now isolated from his friends, mother and stepfather - - that the boy's allegations began to take shape.

At the same time, Rothman, seeking an expert's opinion to help establish the allegations against Jackson, called Dr. Mathis Abrams, a Beverly Hills psychiatrist. Over the telephone, Rothman presented Abrams with a hypothetical situation. In reply and without having met either Chandler or his son, Abrams on July 15 sent Rothman a two- page letter in which he stated that "reasonable suspicion would exist that sexual abuse may have occurred." Importantly, he also stated that if this were a real and not a hypothetical case, he would be required by law to report the matter to the Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services (DCS).

According to a July 27 entry in the diary kept by Rothman's former colleague, it's clear that Rothman was guiding Chandler in the plan. "Rothman wrote letter to Chandler advising him how to report child abuse without liability to parent," the entry reads.

At this point, there still had been made no demands or formal accusations, only veiled assertions that had become intertwined with a fierce custody battle. On August 4, 1993, however, things became very clear. Chandler and his son met with Jackson and Pellicano in a suite at the Westwood Marquis Hotel. On seeing Jackson, says Pellicano, Chandler gave the singer an affectionate hug (a gesture, some say, that would seem to belie the dentist's suspicions that Jackson had molested his son), then reached into his pocket, pulled out Abrams's letter and began reading passages from it. When Chandler got to the parts about child molestation, the boy, says Pellicano, put his head down and then looked up at Jackson with a surprised expression, as if to say "I didn't say that." As the meeting broke up, Chandler pointed his finger at Jackson, says Pellicano, and warned "I'm going to ruin you."

At a meeting with Pellicano in Rothman's office later that evening, Chandler and Rothman made their demand - $20 million.

On August 13, there was another meeting in Rothman's office. Pellicano came back with a counteroffer -- a $350,000 screenwriting deal. Pellicano says he made the offer as a way to resolve the custody dispute and give Chandler an opportunity to spend more time with his son by working on a screenplay together. Chandler rejected the offer. Rothman made a counterdemand -- a deal for three screenplays or nothing -- which was spurned. In the diary of Rothman's ex-colleague, an August 24 entry reveals Chandler's disappointment: "I almost had a $20 million deal," he was overhear telling Rothman.

Before Chandler took control of his son, the only one making allegations against Jackson was Chandler himself -- the boy had never accused the singer of any wrongdoing. That changed one day in Chandler's Beverly Hills dental office.

In the presence of Chandler and Mark Torbiner, a dental anesthesiologist, the boy was administered the controversial drug sodium Amytal -- which some mistakenly believe is a truth serum. And it was after this session that the boy first made his charges against Jackson. A newsman at KCBS-TV, in L.A., reported on May 3 of this year that Chandler had used the drug on his son, but the dentist claimed he did so only to pull his son's tooth and that while under the drug's influence, the boy came out with allegations. Asked for this article about his use of the drug on the boy, Torbiner replied: "If I used it, it was for dental purposes."

Given the facts about sodium Amytal and a recent landmark case that involved the drug, the boy's allegations, say several medical experts, must be viewed as unreliable, if not highly questionable.

"It's a psychiatric medication that cannot be relied on to produce fact," says Dr. Resnick, the Cleveland psychiatrist. "People are very suggestible under it. People will say things under sodium Amytal that are blatantly untrue." Sodium Amytal is a barbiturate, an invasive drug that puts people in a hypnotic state when it's injected intravenously. Primarily administered for the treatment of amnesia, it first came into use during World War II, on soldiers traumatized -- some into catatonic states -- by the horrors of war. Scientific studies done in 1952 debunked the drug as a truth serum and instead demonstrated its risks: False memories can be easily implanted in those under its influence. "It is quite possible to implant an idea through the mere asking of a question," says Resnick. But its effects are apparently even more insidious: "The idea can become their memory, and studies have shown that even when you tell them the truth, they will swear on a stack of Bibles that it happened," says Resnick.

Recently, the reliability of the drug became an issue in a high- profile trial in Napa County, California. After undergoing numerous therapy sessions, at least one of which included the use of sodium Amytal, 20-year-old Holly Ramona accused her father of molesting her as a child. Gary Ramona vehemently denied the charge and sued his daughter's therapist and the psychiatrist who had administered the drug. This past May, jurors sided with Gary Ramona, believing that the therapist and the psychiatrist may have reinforced memories that were false. Gary Ramona's was the first successful legal challenge to the so-called "repressed memory phenomenon" that has produced thousands of sexual-abuse allegations over the past decade.

As for Chandler's story about using the drug to sedate his son during a tooth extraction, that too seems dubious, in light of the drug's customary use. "It's absolutely a psychiatric drug," says Dr. Kenneth Gottlieb, a San Francisco psychiatrist who has administered sodium Amytal to amnesia patients. Dr. John Yagiela, the coordinator of the anesthesia and pain control department of UCLA's school of dentistry, adds, "It's unusual for it to be used [for pulling a tooth]. It makes no sense when better, safer alternatives are available. It would not be my choice."

Because of sodium Amytal's potential side effects, some doctors will administer it only in a hospital. "I would never want to use a drug that tampers with a person's unconscious unless there was no other drug available," says Gottlieb. "And I would not use it without resuscitating equipment, in case of allergic reaction, and only with an M.D. anesthesiologist present."

Chandler, it seems, did not follow these guidelines. He had the procedure performed on his son in his office, and he relied on the dental anesthesiologist Mark Torbiner for expertise. (It was Torbiner who'd introduced Chandler and Rothman in 1991, when Rothman needed dental work.)

The nature of Torbiner's practice appears to have made it highly successful. "He boasts that he has $100 a month overhead and $40,000 a month income," says Nylla Jones, a former patient of his. Torbiner doesn't have an office for seeing patients; rather, he travels to various dental offices around the city, where he administers anesthesia during procedures.

This magazine has learned that the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is probing another aspect of Torbiner's business practices: He makes housecalls to administer drugs -- mostly morphine and Demerol -- not only postoperatively to his dental patients but also, it seems, to those suffering pain whose source has nothing to do with dental work. He arrives at the homes of his clients -- some of them celebrities -- carrying a kind of fishing- tackle box that contains drugs and syringes. At one time, the license plate on his Jaguar read "SLPYDOC." According to Jones, Torbiner charges $350 for a basic ten-to-twenty-minute visit. In what Jones describes as standard practice, when it's unclear how long Torbiner will need to stay, the client, anticipating the stupor that will soon set in, leaves a blank check for Torbiner to fill in with the appropriate amount.

Torbiner wasn't always successful. In 1989, he got caught in a lie and was asked to resign from UCLA, where he was an assistant professor at the school of dentistry. Torbiner had asked to take a half-day off so he could observe a religious holiday but was later found to have worked at a dental office instead.

A check of Torbiner's credentials with the Board of Dental Examiners indicates that he is restricted by law to administering drugs solely for dental-related procedures. But there is clear evidence that he has not abided by those restrictions. In fact, on at least eight occasions, Torbiner has given a general anesthetic to Barry Rothman, during hair-transplant procedures. Though normally a local anesthetic would be injected into the scalp, "Barry is so afraid of the pain," says Dr. James De Yarman, the San Diego physician who performed Rothman's transplants, "that [he] wanted to be put out completely." De Yarman said he was "amazed" to learn that Torbiner is a dentist, having assumed all along that he was an M.D.

In another instance, Torbiner came to the home of Nylla Jones, she says, and injected her with Demerol to help dull the pain that followed her appendectomy.

On August 16, three days after Chandler and Rothman rejected the $350,000 script deal, the situation came to a head. On behalf of June Chandler Schwartz, Michael Freeman notified Rothman that he would be filing papers early the next morning that would force Chandler to turn over the boy. Reacting quickly, Chandler took his son to Mathis Abrams, the psychiatrist who'd provided Rothman with his assessment of the hypothetical child-abuse situation. During a three-hour session, the boy alleged that Jackson had engaged in a sexual relationship with him. He talked of masturbation, kissing, fondling of nipples and oral sex. There was, however, no mention of actual penetration, which might have been verified by a medical exam, thus providing corroborating evidence.

The next step was inevitable. Abrams, who is required by law to report any such accusation to authorities, called a social worker at the Department of Children's Services, who in turn contacted the police. The full-scale investigation of Michael Jackson was about to begin.

Five days after Abrams called the authorities, the media got wind of the investigation. On Sunday morning, August 22, Don Ray, a free- lance reporter in Burbank, was asleep when his phone rang. The caller, one of his tipsters, said that warrants had been issued to search Jackson's ranch and condominium. Ray sold the story to L.A.'s KNBC-TV, which broke the news at 4 P.M. the following day.

After that, Ray "watched this story go away like a freight train," he says. Within twenty-four hours, Jackson was the lead story on seventy-three TV news broadcasts in the Los Angeles area alone and was on the front page of every British newspaper. The story of Michael Jackson and the 13-year-old boy became a frenzy of hype and unsubstantiated rumor, with the line between tabloid and mainstream media virtually eliminated.

The extent of the allegations against Jackson wasn't known until August 25. A person inside the DCS illegally leaked a copy of the abuse report to Diane Dimond of Hard Cop y. Within hours, the L.A. office of a British news service also got the report and began selling copies to any reporter willing to pay $750. The following day, the world knew about the graphic details in the leaked report. "While laying next to each other in bed, Mr. Jackson put his hand under [the child's] shorts," the social worker had written. From there, the coverage soon demonstrated that anything about Jackson would be fair game.

"Competition among news organizations became so fierce," says KNBC reporter Conan Nolan, that "stories weren't being checked out. It was very unfortunate." The National Enquirer put twenty reporters and editors on the story. One team knocked on 500 doors in Brentwood trying to find Evan Chandler and his son. Using property records, they finally did, catching up with Chandler in his black Mercedes. "He was not a happy man. But I was," said Andy O'Brien, a tabloid photographer.

Next came the accusers -- Ja ck son's former employees. First, Stella and Philippe Lemarque, Jackson' ex-housekeepers, tried to sell their story to the tabloids with the help of broker Paul Barresi, a former porn star. They asked for as much as half a million dollars but wound up selling an interview to The Globe of Britain for $15,000. The Quindoys, a Filipino couple who had worked at Neverland, followed. When their asking price was $100,000, they said " 'the hand was outside the kid's pants,' " Barresi told a producer of Frontline, a PBS program. "As soon as their price went up to $500,000, the hand went inside the pants. So come on." The L.A. district attorney's office eventually concluded that both couples were useless as witnesses.

Next came the bodyguards. Purporting to take the journalistic high road, Hard Copy's Diane Dimond told Frontline in early November of last year that her program was "pristinely clean on this. We paid no money for this story at all." But two weeks later, as a Hard Copy contract reveals, the show was negotiating a $100,000 payment to five former Jackson security guards who were planning to file a $10 million lawsuit alleging wrongful termination of their jobs.

On December 1, with the deal in place, two of the guards appeared on the program; they had been fired, Dimond told viewers, because "they knew too much about Michael Jackson's strange relationship with young boys." In reality, as their depositions under oath three months later reveal, it was clear they had never actually seen Jackson do anything improper with Chandler's son or any other child:

"So you don't know anything about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?" one of Jackson's attorneys asked former security guard Morris Williams under oath.

"All I know is from the sworn documents that other people have sworn to."

"But other than what someone else may have said, you have no firsthand knowledge about Mr. Jackson and [the boy], do you?"

"That's correct."

"Have you spoken to a child who has ever told you that Mr. Jackson did anything improper with the child?"

"No."

When asked by Jackson's attorney where he had gotten his impressions, Williams replied: "Just what I've been hearing in the media and what I've experienced with my own eyes."

"Okay. That's the point. You experienced nothing with your own eyes, did you?"

"That's right, nothing."

(The guards' lawsuit, filed in March 1994, was still pending as this article went to press.)

[NOTE: The case was thrown out of court in July 1995.

Next came the maid. On December 15, Hard Copy presented "The Bedroom Maid's Painful Secret." Blanca Francia told Dimond and other reporters that she had seen a naked Jackson taking showers and Jacuzzi baths with young boys. She also told Dimond that she had witnessed her own son in compromising positions with Jackson -- an allegation that the grand juries apparently never found credible.

A copy of Francia's sworn testimony reveals that Hard Copy paid her $20,000, and had Dimond checked out the woman's claims, she would have found them to be false. Under deposition by a Jackson attorney, Francia admitted she had never actually see Jackson shower with anyone nor had she seen him naked with boys in his Jacuzzi. They always had their swimming trunks on, she acknowledged.

The coverage, says Michael Levine, a Jackson press representative, "followed a proctologist's view of the world. Hard Copy was loathsome. The vicious and vile treatment of this man in the media was for selfish reasons. [Even] if you have never bought a Michael Jackson record in your life, you should be very concerned. Society is built on very few pillars. One of them is truth. When you abandon that, it's a slippery slope."

The investigation of Jackson, which by October 1993 would grow to involve at least twelve detectives from Santa Barbara and Los Angeles counties, was instigated in part by the perceptions of one psychiatrist, Mathis Abrams, who had no particular expertise in child sexual abuse. Abrams, the DCS caseworker's report noted, "feels the child is telling the truth." In an era of widespread and often false claims of child molestation, police and prosecutors have come to give great weight to the testimony of psychiatrists, therapists and social workers.

Police seized Jackson's telephone books during the raid on his residences in August and questioned close to thirty children and their families. Some, such as Brett Barnes and Wade Robson, said they had shared Jackson's bed, but like all the others, they gave the same response -- Jackson had done nothing wrong. "The evidence was very good for us," says an attorney who worked on Jackson's defense. "The other side had nothing but a big mouth."

Despite the scant evidence supporting their belief that Jackson was guilty, the police stepped up their efforts. Two officers flew to the Philippines to try to nail down the Quindoys' "hand in the pants" story, but apparently decided it lacked credibility. The police also employed aggressive investigative techniques -- including allegedly telling lies -- to push the children into making accusations against Jackson. According to several parents who complained to Bert Fields, officers told them unequivocally that their children had been molested, even though the children denied to their parents that anything bad had happened. The police, Fields complained in a letter to Los Angeles Police Chief Willie Williams, "have also frightened youngsters with outrageous lies, such as 'We have nude photos of you.' There are, of course, no such photos." One officer, Federico Sicard, told attorney Michael Freeman that he had lied to the children he'd interviewed and told them that he himself had been molested as a child, says Freeman. Sicard did not respond to requests for an interview for this article.

All along, June Chandler Schwartz rejected the charges Chandler was making against Jackson -- until a meeting with police in late August 1993. Officers Sicard and Rosibel Ferrufino made a statement that began to change her mind. "[The officers] admitted they only had one boy," says Freeman, who attended the meeting, "but they said, 'We're convinced Michael Jackson molested this boy because he fits the classic profile of a pedophile perfectly.' "

"There's no such thing as a classic profile. They made a completely foolish and illogical error," says Dr. Ralph Underwager, a Minneapolis psychiatrist who has treated pedophiles and victims of incest since 1953. Jackson, he believes, "got nailed" because of "misconceptions like these that have been allowed to parade as fact in an era of hysteria." In truth, as a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study shows, many child-abuse allegations - - 48 percent of those filed in 1990 -- proved to be unfounded.

"It was just a matter of time before someone like Jackson became a target," says Phillip Resnick. "He's rich, bizarre, hangs around with kids and there is a fragility to him. The atmosphere is such that an accusation must mean it happened."

The seeds of settlement were already being sown as the police investigation continued in both counties through the fall of 1993. And a behind-the-scenes battle among Jackson's lawyers for control of the case, which would ultimately alter the course the defense would take, had begun.

By then, June Chandler Schwartz and Dave Schwartz had united with Evan Chandler against Jackson. The boy's mother, say several sources, feared what Chandler and Rothman might do if she didn't side with them. She worried that they would try to advance a charge against her of parental neglect for allowing her son to have sleepovers with Jackson. Her attorney, Michael Freeman, in turn, resigned in disgust, saying later that "the whole thing was such a mess. I felt uncomfortable with Evan. He isn't a genuine person, and I sensed he wasn't playing things straight."

Over the months, lawyers for both sides were retained, demoted and ousted as they feuded over the best strategy to take. Rothman ceased being Chandler's lawyer in late August, when the Jackson camp filed extortion charges against the two. Both then hired high-priced criminal defense attorneys to represent them.. (Rothman retained Robert Shapiro, now O.J. Simpson's chief lawyer.) According to the diary kept by Rothman's former colleague, on August 26, before the extortion charges were filed, Chandler was heard to say "It's my ass that's on the line and in danger of going to prison." The investigation into the extortion charges was superficial because, says a source, "the police never took it that seriously. But a whole lot more could have been done." For example, as they had done with Jackson, the police could have sought warrants to search the homes and offices of Rothman and Chandler. And when both men, through their attorneys, declined to be interviewed by police, a grand jury could have been convened.

In mid-September, Larry Feldman, a civil attorney who'd served as head of the Los Angeles Trial Lawyers Association, began representing Chandler's son and immediately took control of the situation. He filed a $30 million civil lawsuit against Jackson, which would prove to be the beginning of the end.

Once news of the suit spread, the wolves began lining up at the door. According to a member of Jackson's legal team, "Feldman got dozens of letters from all kinds of people saying they'd been molested by Jackson. They went through all of them trying to find somebody, and they found zero."

With the possibility of criminal charges against Jackson now looming, Bert Fields brought in Howard Weitzman, a well-known criminal-defense lawyer with a string of high-profile clients -- including John DeLorean, whose trail he won, and Kim Basinger, whose Boxing Helena contract dispute he lost. (Also, for a short time this June, Weitzman was O.J. Simpson's attorney.) Some predicted a problem between the two lawyers early on. There wasn't room for two strong attorneys used to running their own show.

From the day Weitzman joined Jackson's defense team, "he was talking settlement," says Bonnie Ezkenazi, an attorney who worked for the defense. With Fields and Pellicano still in control of Jackson's defense, they adopted an aggressive strategy. They believed staunchly in Jackson's innocence and vowed to fight the charges in court. Pellicano began gathering evidence to use in the trial, which was scheduled for March 21, 1994. "They had a very weak case," says Fields. "We wanted to fight. Michael wanted to fight and go through a trial. We felt we could win."

Dissension within the Jackson camp accelerated on November 12, after Jackson's publicist announced at a press conference that the singer was canceling the remainder of his world tour to go into a drug- rehabilitation program to treat his addiction to painkillers. Fields later told reporters that Jackson was "barely able to function adequately on an intellectual level." Others in Jackson's camp felt it was a mistake to portray the singer as incompetent. "It was important," Fields says, "to tell the truth. [Larry] Feldman and the press took the position that Michael was trying to hide and that it was all a scam. But it wasn't."

On November 23, the friction peaked. Based on information he says he got from Weitzman, Fields told a courtroom full of reporters that a criminal indictment against Jackson seemed imminent. Fields had a reason for making the statement: He was trying to delay the boy's civil suit by establishing that there was an impending criminal case that should be tried first. Outside the courtroom, reporters asked why Fields had made the announcement, to which Weitzman replied essentially that Fields "misspoke himself." The comment infuriated Fields, "because it wasn't true," he says. "It was just an outrage. I was very upset with Howard." Fields sent a letter of resignation to Jackson the following week.

"There was this vast group of people all wanting to do a different thing, and it was like moving through molasses to get a decision," says Fields. "It was a nightmare, and I wanted to get the hell out of it." Pellicano, who had received his share of flak for his aggressive manner, resigned at the same time.

With Fields and Pellicano gone, Weitzman brought in Johnnie Cochran Jr., a well-known civil attorney who is now helping defend O.J. Simpson. And John Branca, whom Fields had replaced as Jackson's general counsel in 1990, was back on board. In late 1993, as DAs in both Santa Barbara and Los Angeles counties convened grand juries to assess whether criminal charges should be filed against Jackson, the defense strategy changed course and talk of settling the civil case began in earnest, even though his new team also believed in Jackson's innocence.

Why would Jackson's side agree to settle out of court, given his claims of innocence and the questionable evidence against him? His attorneys apparently decided there were many factors that argued against taking the case to civil court. Among them was the fact that Jackson's emotional fragility would be tested by the oppressive media coverage that would likely plague the singer day after day during a trial that could last as long as six months. Politics and racial issues had also seeped into legal proceedings -- particularly in Los Angeles, which was still recovering from the Rodney King ordeal -- and the defense feared that a court of law could not be counted on to deliver justice. Then, too, there was the jury mix to consider. As one attorney says, "They figured that Hispanics might resent [Jackson] for his money, blacks might resent him for trying to be white, and whites would have trouble getting around the molestation issue." In Resnick's opinion, "The hysteria is so great and the stigma [of child molestation] is so strong, there is no defense against it."

Jackson's lawyers also worried about what might happen if a criminal trial followed, particularly in Santa Barbara, which is a largely white, conservative, middle-to-upper-class community. Any way the defense looked at it, a civil trial seemed too big a gamble. By meeting the terms of a civil settlement, sources say, the lawyers figured they could forestall a criminal trial through a tacit understanding that Chandler would agree to make his son unavailable to testify.

Others close to the case say the decision to settle also probably had to do with another factor -- the lawyers' reputations. "Can you imagine what would happen to an attorney who lost the Michael Jackson case?" says Anthony Pellicano. "There's no way for all three lawyers to come out winners unless they settle. The only person who lost is Michael Jackson." But Jackson, says Branca, "changed his mind about [taking the case to trial] when he returned to this country. He hadn't seen the massive coverage and how hostile it was. He just wanted the whole thing to go away."

On the other side, relationships among members of the boy's family had become bitter. During a meeting in Larry Feldman's office in late 1993, Chandler, a source says, "completely lost it and beat up Dave [Schwartz]." Schwartz, having separated from June by this time, was getting pushed out of making decisions that affected his stepson, and he resented Chandler for taking the boy and not returning him.

"Dave got mad and told Evan this was all about extortion, anyway, at which point Evan stood up, walked over and started hitting Dave," a second source says.

To anyone who lived in Los Angeles in January 1994, there were two main topics of discussion -- the earthquake and the Jackson settlement. On January 25, Jackson agreed to pay the boy an undisclosed sum. The day before, Jackson's attorneys had withdrawn the extortion charges against Chandler and Rothman.

The actual amount of the settlement has never been revealed, although speculation has placed the sum around $20 million. One source says Chandler and June Chandler Schwartz received up to $2 million each, while attorney Feldman might have gotten up to 25 percent in contingency fees. The rest of the money is being held in trust for the boy and will be paid out under the supervision of a court-appointed trustee.

"Remember, this case was always about money," Pellicano says, "and Evan Chandler wound up getting what he wanted." Since Chandler still has custody of his son, sources contend that logically this means the father has access to any money his son gets.

By late May 1994, Chandler finally appeared to be out of dentistry. He'd closed down his Beverly Hills office, citing ongoing harassment from Jackson supporters. Under the terms of the settlement, Chandler is apparently prohibited from writing about the affair, but his brother, Ray Charmatz, was reportedly trying to get a book deal.

In what may turn out to be the never-ending case, this past August, both Barry Rothman and Dave Schwartz (two principal players left out of the settlement) filed civil suits against Jackson. Schwartz maintains that the singer broke up his family. Rothman's lawsuit claims defamation and slander on the part of Jackson, as well as his original defense team -- Fields, Pellicano and Weitzman -- for the allegations of extortion. "The charge of [extortion]," says Rothman attorney Aitken, "is totally untrue. Mr. Rothman has been held up for public ridicule, was the subject of a criminal investigation and suffered loss of income." (Presumably, some of Rothman's lost income is the hefty fee he would have received had he been able to continue as Chandler's attorney through the settlement phase.)

As for Michael Jackson, "he is getting on with his life," says publicist Michael Levine. Now married, Jackson also recently recorded three new songs for a greatest-hits album and completed a new music video called "History."

And what became of the massive investigation of Jackson? After millions of dollars were spent by prosecutors and police departments in two jurisdictions, and after two grand juries questioned close to 200 witnesses, including 30 children who knew Jackson, not a single corroborating witness could be found. (In June 1994, still determined to find even one corroborating witness, three prosecutors and two police detectives flew to Australia to again question Wade Robson, the boy who had acknowledged that he'd slept in the same bed with Jackson. Once again, the boy said that nothing bad had happened.)

The sole allegations leveled against Jackson, then, remain those made by one youth, and only after the boy had been give a potent hypnotic drug, leaving him susceptible to the power of suggestion.

"I found the case suspicious," says Dr. Underwager, the Minn eapolis psychiatrist, "precisely because the only evidence came from one boy. That would be highly unlikely. Actual pedophiles have an average of 240 victims in their lifetime. It's a progressive disorder. They're never satisfied."

Given the slim evidence against Jackson, it seems unlikely he would have been found guilty had the case gone to trial. But in the court of public opinion, there are no restrictions. People are free to speculate as they wish, and Jackson's eccentricity leaves him vulnerable to the likelihood that the public has assumed the worst about him.

So is it possible that Jackson committed no crime -- that he is what he has always purported to be, a protector and not a molester of children? Attorney Michael Freeman thinks so: "It's my feeling that Jackson did nothing wrong and these people [Chandler and Rothman] saw an opportunity and programmed it. I believe it was all about money."

To some observers, the Michael Jackson story illustrates the dangerous power of accusation, against which there is often no defense -- particularly when the accusations involve child sexual abuse. To others, something else is clear now -- that police and prosecutors spent millions of dollars to create a case whose foundation never existed.

Mary A Fischer is a GQ senior writer based in Los Angeles.

Stop smoking weed and ************ while you're writing these idiotic posts. LOL

-- Anonymous, April 17, 2003

Oh God ... ummmm ... the telephone call that Jordy's father made saying that he was gonna ruin MJ ... the fact that police's search of MJ's body didn't match the boy's descriptions ... the thorough investigation by police that turned up nothing

Need I go on?

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

Come on, you said that you had proof of his innocence! What in the article proves that he didn't? Where is the proof?!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

oooooooookay

What in the article implies that he molests children?

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

I read it. Now what? There is no proof in your link that he didn't do it. If anything, I am more convinced then ever, of his guilt.

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

http://www.lsulaw.com/thelegaltattler/michael.htm

Read this, NOW

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

This is ridiculous. He didn't do it. To those who ask why he settled instead of fought it in court, you should know that oftentimes in business, false accusations are made that have to be dealt with. Rather than go through the trauma and cost and bad publicity of litigation and fight the BS, it's better to settle out of court. Settlements are not tantamount to admissions of guilt. Second, what kind of parents, if they REALLY BELIEVE that something was done to their child, would allow their silence to be bought? If I thought or knew that my child were molested, I'd go after the sick bastard and make a huge stink about it so that everyone would hear. This was obviously a set-up. People who love the tabloids and sensationalism are very stupid and naturally more susceptible to believe this nonsense. I for one don't.

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

Come on, show it. Prove his innocence.

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

Show me the proof that he's guilty. I have proof that he's innocent.

-- Anonymous, April 16, 2003

Hannah!!! Duh...How do you know that MJ is innocent? Are you retarded you poor mislead little know nothing? Hell??...well, hell is for children...or at least Michael is seeing to that.

-- Anonymous, April 15, 2003

Are you people stupid how the hell do you know that he really did molest that boy in 1993(what ever the liars name is), your all just making your own conclusion about what happened. And saying he should die or go to hell, why? why?, what would really make me happy is for all throughs haters out there, you should drop dead and go to hell. just leave him alone. your just acting like a bunch of children, HE HASN'T HURT NOBODY. he said if he hurt a child he would cut his wrist. so how could a man who loves children (as a friend) molest them. so before you try and acuse him get your facts stright.

-- Anonymous, April 15, 2003

Twenty years from now, when Mike hasn't done anything innapropriate to children, y'all will be kicking yourselves.

He allows kids to sleep-over in his bedroom; OMG, they're having sex! ^^) Did it ever occur to you that he is just a child at heart who loves sleep-overs, going to the zoo, eating cotton candy and riding ferris wheels? If MJ is guilty of anything, it's exhibiting all the signs of being a young child at heart while at the same time caring unconditionally for all human beings.

Did it ever occur to you that Mike is just different and unique? Did it ever occur to you that a human being can "have" this ability?

If Mike has sex with children, show me the proof. And No, his unconditional love and tremendous generosity is not proof.

-- Anonymous, April 12, 2003

Has MJ done anything to suggest that he molests children? Apparently, to many of you, it isn't possible for a man to have an unconditional, Godly love for children; that is, unless he wants to have sex with them.

-- Anonymous, April 12, 2003

Apparently many of you who most here have no idea what a pedophile is or what their profile is. There is a difference between a pedophile and a child molester. Pedophiles groom kids for seduction and often take months or even a year or more to get the child to like him and trust him. Only after he receives the child's complete trust does the pedophile act out his fantasies with that child. Please educate yourselves by reading my webpage: http://www.tigerhawktalk.com/howpedophilesoperate.html

and also my webpage on how a man attempted to groom my 12-year-old son for seduction: http://www.tigerhawktalk.com/devastatingfriendship.html

Please read this and educate yourselves on how to protect the kids from pedophiles and online predators.

Pedophiles are often very well liked and appear to be kind and to genuinely like kids. When their activities are discovered, many are shocked.

-- Anonymous, April 12, 2003

Why, than, isn't it possible with Michael? What has he done to lead you to believe this? The man donates so much of his energy and money to various causes

-- Anonymous, April 10, 2003

Daniel, Yes, what you describe, is possible.

Is it possible of Michael? I really don't think so.

I'm sorry. I'm not saying this because I hate Michael. I happen to love many of his songs. One day it will all come out.

-- Anonymous, April 10, 2003

But what if MJ isn't a child molestor; that he just has unconditional love for all children? I tell you, if I was able, I wouldn't be afraid to do what he's doing (Allowing children sleep over in his house if they so desire & if their parents approve). Did it ever occur to you that he's "not" molesting children? Did it ever occur to you that his donating of well over $100 mill to charity is out of pure Godly love and not some strange twisted sexual desire? His last charity, Heal the Kids, got screwed by one of Mike's closest friends, so he is unveiling a new charity later this year. He visits hospitals everywhere he goes, showers disadvantaged kids with toys and helps provide the homeless with blankets and pillows. He is listed in Guiness as having donated to the most charities. And He pays for funerals. Is it entirely possible that there exists at least one human being on Earth who appears to be as loving, compassionate and, most of all, misunderstood as Jesus? Yes ... and his name is Michael Jackson. No, Mike is not Jesus. But, he is very much like him. Jesus posessed an unconditional love for children, a love so strong and true that the majority of those around him could not understand it. He saw life through different eyes; on a much deeper level; and for this he was tortured and left for dead. Yet, Do we question the motives of this man? Or can we, as fellow human beings, search deep within ourselves to feel what he felt; to see what he saw; to be touched in a way that it almost hurts? Can we, as fellow human beings, accept such a man today?

-- Anonymous, April 08, 2003

Simone and Daniel, I suggest that if you haven't lived it and don't know others who have, then stop throwing your chilish insults.

Do you think our family pictures showed scared, frightened, abused and molested people? I am sorry, but they didn't. Nobody knew what was going on in our home. My father was a very important person in my life and as a child I loved him, no matter what. I thought he was very smart and that he knew everything, because even though he did bad things, there was still good things about him. God only knows how much I would have looked up to him, if he would have been a 'STAR'.

My life growing up has given me 'one gift'. I can almost always tell when someone is a child molester. I have only been wrong once and that was someone who I thought probably wasn't and it turned out that he was.

LOOK, the signs are all there.

-- Anonymous, April 08, 2003

http://www.lsulaw.com/thelegaltattler/michael.htm There is the proof that he never molested that boy.

And You know what? I wouldn't care if a young child who happened to be my friend slept in the same room with me. If he or she wants to, that's fine with me. We could watch tv, surf the net, listen to music and, at night, fall asleep.

Why the Hell would this be considered at all innapropriate?

If you wanna ignore the proof that he's innocent and make yourself look stupid by insisting he is a pedophile without any proof is your fucking perogative.

Go back to your Penthouse magazines, marijuana stashes & Satan worshipping ... and leave Michael Jackson alone!

-- Anonymous, April 05, 2003

finally some one who agree's with me dont forget he also molested a 13 year old boy.

-- Anonymous, April 05, 2003

whatever...

-- Anonymous, April 05, 2003

He is a piece of ass

-- Anonymous, April 03, 2003

I live Mickael ans i'll stand by him 100%. I was there when the kid was there and i was i the same room reading a book while they where sleeping.

-- Anonymous, April 01, 2003

Micheal just has the mind of a kid. He still wants to be a kid, he doesn't want to grow up. And there's nothing wrong with that, if I could stay a kid forever, I would. Micheal Jackson would never moleste a child, for two reasons, it would be way too damaging to his career, and he would never want to!!! As for his looks, who cares? It's Micheal's life, not yours and not mine!! So leave hime the HELL alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, March 31, 2003

Amen! :)

-- Anonymous, March 29, 2003

hi, let me ask the ones who curiously believe that MJJ molested a child and according to you still does, Question nr. 1:

did you ever look at these children who hang out with him?

there are millions of pictures showing him with children and NONE of them look as if they were scared of him in any way or didn´t have a blast in his presence! i mean did you ever think about that aspect, did you notice? every single child who spends time with him or is seen with MJ in public lookes definitely happy and proud and not at all as if they were molested by Michael!

Even this cute boy jordan chandler, who before he met Michael Jackson was a huge fan of his and even wrote him a letter at age 4 when MJ had the accident and burned his scalp, seemed to enjoy the artist´s presence when he accompanied MJ to the world music awards in monaco, france in may 1993. and a couple of months later he stated all of a sudden that Michael had molested him even before their trip to europe... now isn´t that odd?!

i might not know anyone who was molested myself but i can certainly tell BY THE HUGE GRIN ON JORDAN´S FACE ( you might know the photo of michael and jordan, wearing mike´s chlothes )that he was definitely NOT a victim of child abuse and molestation!!

Question nr. 2:

has there ever been another child that accused michael jackson of molestation but jordan chandler? NO!

Question nr. 3:

what about all the parents who STILL send their children to spend time with michael jackson and even allow their children to sleep over his house???

if you were convinced that he was in any way guilty of any wrong doing would you send your children? of course not!! and to me this is proof enough that MICHAEL JACKSON IS TOTALLY INNOCENT!!

Question nr. 4:

if you had been accused of the same things as MJJ would you still after all the shit being written about you in the press dare to show up in the presence of those you had allegedly harmed? i bet not! but MJ does! and you know why? because there is nothing to worry about when you are innocent and you do not give a damn about the fuck the media produces!

THE PROBLEMS OF THOSE WHO BELIEVE SUCH STORIES IS that you depend on the media too much and believe every single bullshit. people in europe are definitely not as stupid and naiv as americans, so we can handle such tabloid shit a little better that they do.

START USING YOUR COMMON SENSE (if you do posses such a thing) and everything will be alright, i promise!

LOTS OF LOVE,

simone steinau

-- Anonymous, March 29, 2003

What is his crime, though? It's not even like he "begs" to have children sleep in his house. They ask him; he asks permission from the parents; What's the big deal?

-- Anonymous, March 23, 2003

Daniel, Nobody said that there was anything wrong with Michaels children sleeping with him when they are scared, not feeling well or just need comforting. However, there is something wrong with a person opening their bed to multitudes of other peoples children, especially in light of previous accusations. I also have to say that if you opened your bed to my child or anyone elses, I would see you in jail.

-- Anonymous, March 23, 2003

He wanted money, plain and simple. He got jealous of Jackson; he set out to try & destroy Mike's career; and he was looking for a huge payout as well.

This was all about jealousy and greed, folks. Those who say that Mike is a pedophile do so simply because he is more caring & loving than they could ever hope to be.

All they are is jealous; so they say whatever negative thing comes to mind, no matter how idiotic and stupid it sounds.

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2003

Poeple in order for a MONEY to be paid, the other side has to accept it. What parent would accept money and not jail when their child has been abused? And the funny thing about this is that you can get both MONEY AND JAIL, and this father chose money. Look, people asked themselves why did Michael settled? Well, I'll answer that question when this question is answer "Why did the father settled?

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2003

In the US Constitution, there's a clause that says that every accused person is innocent until proven guilt in a court of law. However, in the court of public opinion, all those accused are guilty until proven innocent and some of the responses that I've read on here are a prime example of this. Whether you like Michael Jackson or not you have to look at this situation without bias. You have to look at the evidence and draw a conclusion based on the evidence. Here's the situation as I see it:

1. The thorough police investsigation yielded no evidence against Jackson.

2. The case went before two grand juries but no formal charges brought against Jackson.

3. The boy's description of Jackson was inaccurate. The former employees who spoke out against Jackson, changed their stories when they testified before the grand jury. Just recently in an interview with Larry King, Latoya Jackson admitted that she was forced to speak out against her brother in 1993.

4. The boy accused Jackson of sexual misconduct under the influence of sodium amytal. In 1997, the supreme court ruled that the testimony of anyone under the influence of this drug is inadmissable in a court of law.

The only thing that is left is the issue of the settlement. Did Jackson pay his accusers to avoid jail time? No that's impossible! That's not how our justice system works. If there was enough evidence to convict Jackson, then that would've occured regardless of whether he paid his accusers or not. Jackson settled the civil suit brought against him. In civil suits the plantiffs wish to seek monatary damages from the defendant (that means they want money). For whatever his reason were, Jackson settled the civil suit. But keep in mind that his decision is NOT AN ADMISSION OF GUILT!.

Based on these facts, I conclude that Michael Jackson is innocent.

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2003

Michael Jackson is not a pedophile; there is no proof. There is, however, plenty of proof that he's innocent, ie the thorough investigation described in GQ or the simple fact that photos of MJ's genitals do not match the descriptions given to authorities by the boy. Police even investigated Neverland and found absolutely no sign or signs of any wrongdoing on Michael's part. If you are taking the fact that he sleeps next to children as proof of the man being a pedophile, Did you ever consider that the man might just be a little more loving and compassionate than you or I? They -- the children -- request to spend the night in his room; he complies. So what? He sees nothing wrong with it, and neither do the parents. Just because everybody all might sleep in the same bed does not automatically make them a pedophile. How many parents have slept in the same bed with their children? What about comforting them in bed if they're sick with a fever or, God forbid, cancer? Is that pedophilia, or just love? Children are innocent; the younger they get, the more innocent they become. In a world where many things seem as if they want us to grow up too fast, it is often nice to just sit back and take in that childhood innocence; whether it be climbing a tree, riding a ferris wheel or even opening up ones house to children. I realize it is hard for some of you to accept the fact that a 44 year old man is allowing children to sleep in his room. Yet, Is anything innapropriate taking place within that bedroom? Is it really that wrong to show this much love and compassion? I think not. Many people are too quick to judge; they hear the world "sleep" and immediately assume "having sex." Yet, allow me to put it this way: If everybody in the world were as loving as Michael Jackson; if everyone were as compassionate as Michael Jackson; if every single human being were just as willing to open up not only their house, not only their bed, but their heart as well; if we all had a big enough heart to accept this much innocence and precious beauty into our lives, then the world would be a better place to live. Michael Jackson once wrote "What have I got that I can give?" We should all take these words in stride; we should all accept them with open arms.

-- Anonymous, March 21, 2003

Michael Jackson couldn't and wouldn't do anything to cause a child pain. All you sick fucks who think he did need to leave the man the fuck alone. He didn't go to court cause it's easier to settle out of court. I'm 21 years old I've been a a Michael Jackson fan for 16 years. I will remain a loyal fan till the day I die. I'd believe the words that come out of his mouth before some trashy ass magazine that only looks at one side of the story. All you haters can kiss my ass. Michael is a truely dearing and loving man. Get the fuck off his back and let him live his life. Whatever happened to innocent until proven quilty? He was never proven quilty so leave himn the fuck alone. Allow him to raise his kids the most normal way possible. He may have had a lot of facial sugery. But who gives a fuck? I sure as hell don't. He never said his vitilio is why his facial fearures changed. His color changed due to vitiligo. So all the dumb ass people out there need to leave Michael Jackson alone. I love this man to death and I always will. To all Michael fans. Keep on supporting him and loving him. Cause he loves all of us. - Angie from U.S.A.

-- Anonymous, March 16, 2003

Thanks Rae. I enjoyed what you had to say.

Michael JACKSON IS the BEST.

Josh

-- Anonymous, March 05, 2003

all about michael jackson-, a dancer or a singer , rich or poor ,black or white, male or female, young or old, parent and child, is he normal or freak?

-- Anonymous, March 04, 2003

For those who are in doubt, please go to www.thesmokinggun.com and read it for yourself. The man is sick. Not only does he need professional help, he needs to be incarcerated.

The only reason he has not been arrested up until now is that he had the money to buy people off. That is coming to an end as there is now a report that he has a $200 million dollar note coming due with Bank of America and will have to sacrifice his Beatles song collection as well as the rights to his own music to pay off some of this debt.

The house of cards is coming down. Michael Jackson will suffer the consequences of his own misdeeds, as he now does not have the funds to continue to finance his extravagant lifestyle nor the bait of Neverland that he uses to troll for "unsuspecting" little boys. I suspect that he would already be being anally raped in the cell of someone named Big Bubba had he not had the support of some misguided people considering themselves "fans for life".

Like I said at the start, point your browser to www.thesmokinggun.com and decide for yourself!

-- Anonymous, March 04, 2003

MJ IS SUCH A STUPID GAY FUCKER THAT LOVES TO RAPE CHILDREN AND BABIES AND IF HE GOES TO HELL HE'LL PROBABLY RAPE KIDS THERE TOO!!!

-- Anonymous, March 04, 2003

Come on people there is a war about to start in Iraq...havent u people got better things to do than sit around and discuss media hungry popstars?

-- Anonymous, March 04, 2003

Michael Jackson raped me that note hard it was soooo goood

It WAS LONG AND HARD
-- Anonymous, March 03, 2003

i think michael is so gay

-- Anonymous, March 03, 2003

Everything that i have read on this page deeply sadens me. The only reason why i am responding is to vent my emotion(and like everyone else i have a view, its human nature). There is so much to consider when looking at issues involving peoples life, including that of famous stars such as Michael Jackson and no matter what point ur trying to make or whose side ur on there will always be an answer to contradict you and ur ideals and beliefs. There are pple who say they dont care, yet post messeges any way, there are pple who are fans who just want to stick up for their idols(which is great, thats what fan are for),there are those who take the opportunity to share their views (against issues like homosexuality or what is right when it comes to raising a child,etc) even the question of what is normal is raised. The cold hard truth is that no matter how YOU read into a story ,what psychoanlaysis skills u have,(eg a few glanses up to the right (meaning ur a liar,) or what ever else is being tossed about in the media, this is how the world functions. NO one would be passionate about anything is everyone agreed on everything. We wouldn't be individuals if we didnt all have seperate views and opions. The fact is the media is one of the most power tools in the world today and can be manipulated to tell what ever the public wants to hear. Lets face it would u watch television or read newspapers if all it had to say was good things. The world we live in loves a good story; people get paid, we as consumers get entertained and the world goes round because money is being spent. So i guess my point is, whatever happened to the children Michael spent time with or what ever happens to him in his personal life has nothing to with right or wrong, just how it can be interpreted to get a response out of us, the consumers. Now no one can have a non biased opinion on nethimg no matter how they try and i am no exception to this rule.

My view about this whole pedophile affair is mixed. On one hand i am a huge fan of Michaels work, he is talented and makes great music.I can only dream to take my love for performing to the level he has achieved. He has also contributed to charities and sings of a better world. But i dont know him personaly, no one really does(and even if they say they know him, its again up to personal prefference on whether u believe them to be sincere, and lets face it trust these days is hard to come by). Michael is the only one who knows why he does what he does and if he has sexual attractions to children.

Instead of making assumptions about things and people which i am in no control of determining what is right or wrong, i choose to believe in people. ITs as simple as that.

So on that note (and i apologise for the length), i just like to add that we should really focus on Michaels music (wheather u like it or not) and leave the unexplained alone. When u live in a world like we do full of some much negativity, its best just to believe what u need to, to get by.

Its not up to us to judge each other or what is right or wrong? Keep that in mind when u think about issues involving Michael or anyone for that matter.

Im just A fan of Michael's and some one who is just trying to understand the world we live in. Thanks for ur time Rae

-- Anonymous, March 03, 2003

Michael jackson did not do anything to that kid. If he really hurt him the parents never would've accepted the money. When you're that huge, people will try to bring you down. Michael did not have a childhood, of course he's gonna spend alot of time with kids, that doesn't make him a pedophile. Regaurdless of what anyone says, I love Michael. He hasn't done anything wrong, & I have yet to see any proof that he has.

-- Anonymous, March 02, 2003

Stumbling across your board, I couldn't help getting a little pissed off from reading some of these hopelessly ignorant posts.

I do not know if MJ abuses children and frankly I don't care. I do not believe the media, pro or con, it doesn't matter. They are just out to sell newspapers, and truth be told: They know as little about it as any of us.

I am however impressed that the media have succeeded in making so many people interest themselves with something so unimportant as MJ's sexual conviction. Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of children are abused every day world wide; starved, beaten and molested physically and mentally. Transnational corporations exploit little children as slave labour, for a bowl of rice a day, so they can produce our happymeal toys. But of course that does not involve washed out celebreties, and colorful tabloid stories.

Fellow media slaves, wake up. Smell the air, it's a rotten and filthy stench that greets you from below the cosmetic surface. There is so much suffering and pain in the world today, madmen are craving war again and crime and poverty are claiming more lives than ever before. You don't even have to look hard, you just have to peek - cast a quick glance, and you will see the horror of todays maltreatment of the weak and the helpless.

You live a life good enough, that you can afford opinions on an insignificant washout. Your priveliged existence comes with a responsibility, and the sooner you acknowledge this, the sooner you can make a difference. I know it's impleasant, but at least it's real, which is more than I can say of the inflated importance of Michael Jacksons perversions.

-- Anonymous, March 01, 2003

Hello All,

Anyone who actually wants the TRUTH, about how Michael was framed and how a psychiatric drug was responsible for this whole mess, read here:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/2943/framed.html

-- Anonymous, March 01, 2003

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-- Anonymous, February 28, 2003

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-- Anonymous, February 28, 2003

HE is so gay!!!! he is such a pedophile chandler is on my side

DIE YOU SICK HOMO!!!!

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2003

You physcho, judgmental people do the world a favour and stop giving Mihael shit. What the fuck did he do to u? Just what I thought... Nothing! Anyone can see, even if they don't know him, that he is a caring loving person and wouldn't do anything to hurt anyone - especially children. Especially since he was abused as a child too. You people just want to harrass and hurt someone else because you're cowards - Michael was so hurt when he was younger because his dad said he had a fat nose - so he narrowed it - he doesn't need to be hurt again by u - he's been hurt enough.

-- Anonymous, February 28, 2003

Michael Jackson was set up all those years ago. Badly set up. He should have gone to court to prove his innocence but the guy just wanted to be left alone. Some amazing songs, to match 'Off The wall', 'Thriller', and 'Bad' will be what he has needed for a long time, to rebuild his career. But in all honesty he has reigned supreme in the music industry for long enough anyway. He has the respect of many. Martin Bashir is just a big wanker who befriended a vulnerable guy, and played on his weak points. Once again MJ was set up. I wish the media would leave him alone. He was a little naive to trust Bashir, the guy who made diana look pretty stupid too. Anyway, the truth always comes out in the end. Micheal Jackson is a good guy.

-- Anonymous, February 27, 2003

Mike the d***, Why is it that you feel so compelled to give him the benefit of a doubt?

Given what I see of the man himself, I have to lean toward there being a great possibility that he is guilty. I am not on a jury, so what I think really doesn't matter. However, I am entitled to my feelings on the situation, just as you are.

I convict him of nothing...he is doing a pretty good job of that himself.

-- Anonymous, February 26, 2003

and why is it that the people that don't know michael jackson also talk about and expect the worst? why couldn't you give him the benfiet of the doubt

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2003

Why do Michael Jackson fans talk as if they know this man? You listen to his music but you do not know what goes on behind closed doors...nobody does..thats the point. But to consider what we do see..it is clearly quite un-nerving. Paedophiles often lure children to them, thus in Michaels case we see the funfair, zoo etc.. Also in response to "Most Kindly's" view that children may enjoy having sex...the issue isn't whether they enjoy it...the point is that it is wrong...their innocence is taken away...children who are being sexually abused think that it is normal...more often that not..they are brought up to believe that it is happening to everyone...the fact is...that any sexual contact between two individuals should be consensual and at an age when they can make this decision for themselves...it should not be forced upon them...this is rape. In response to the Chandler case, it is clear that Michael paid them off and they accepted...but do none of you "fans" see that Michael Jackson had the best lawyers money could buy...that it would be traumatic for a twelve year old boy to testify and re-live the experience and 20 million dollars could essentially give a small town family the chance for their son to avoid the media and help him to focus on something other than the sexual abuse suffered. In relation to the Martin Bashir interview, it is not Bashir himself who was in the wrong. He said little against Michael, the evidence against Jacko was self incriminating.If the fans wish to discuss pr..then look to the PR guru himself..Jackson did not get this far my being "naive"...he is regarded as a freak because he keeps his name in the papers, he invents stories eg sleeping in the oxygen chamber and plays upto the fact that he is considered strange. As we all well know, press coverage often equals money in the bank and as true fans will already know michael jackson is in debt of over 50 million dollars...he is spending more money than he owns...so may it be suggested that michael wasn't as innocent as he tries make out in the Bashir interview...the public are divided and michael is getting talked about at a time when his last album flopped (i struggle to even remember the name of it as I'm sure many do). Michael Jackson is a man in need of psychiatric help..you just need to look at his face to see that he is masking what he once was...he is not Peter Pan..the sooner the fans look beyond the music to this disturbed individual the better.

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2003

i don't believe that michael jackson had sex with kids, people that molest children don't love them, and michael loves children. it is really sad because if you were accused of having sex with kids, how would you prove it wrong?, also i am sick of people that listen to shit music(death music and so on) that think that michael jackson is a phedo, well you guys think that because all your sad music is talking about bad things happening all the time. and i bet anything most of you guys that think he did it, also think that man didn't land on the moon and it is all bull shit. sadly enough most of the people that think he did it read woman's day, doesn't that say it all :)

-- Anonymous, February 25, 2003

How can people even think that MJ is a pedophile? He is on of the greatest men that exists today. He could NEVER commit these horrific crimes that this kid Jordy Chandler had placed on him. MJ is the sweetest man. He has his own foundations set up to HELP children, NOT TO HURT THEM. Its people like Jordy Chandler who want money. They sneak in to a man like Michael Jackson's home, they act all inocent, and then they make some lie about him. I've been reading up on michael for quite some time, and frankly I am sick and tired of hearing that everyone thinks that he is some freak! How is that? Tell me seriously. He has a disease called vitiligo which makes his skin white, and people think that he bleached his skin? Well i'm gonna tell those STUPID people, to read about vililigo because if you know anything about it, you would know that it spreads when you're exposed to the sun alot, which Michael is. Another thing that I am tired of is this thing about him abusing children. He WOULD NEVER HURT ANY CHILD! He is the best example of a humanitarian. One of the few left today in the world. And he should be labeled a freak? A Pervert? I say to all of those infedels that think he is that, that they are PUPPETS OF THE MEDIA. They are nothing more than that. They hear lies about him on tv, in the tabloids, and they believe it. It's so ridiculous. Michael Jackson has been going through hell in the past 10 years because of some bastard like Jordy Chandler making lies to get some money. He just wants to get on with his life, and I wish that others would let him. They ask why is he so caring towards children? Well look at his life! When he was young, he had to face the labour of working day and night with his brothers, who were beaten by their own father. He never even got to call his father "daddy". How sad is that? And you all say he's just a pervert, he gets off on children. You must be a sick freak to think that. In closing, when that court case was going on in 1993, wasn't it that Jordy Chandler had some evidence that MJ had done this horrific act to him? And didn't he say that his mother had the video tape that had the proof? So where did that go then? It was all a hoax! They somehow said that they couldn't bring the tape to court because of some bullshit reason.

That just shows you that some people can sink to all time lows in order to get money. I hope that this has been helpfull, and i hope that I have changed your once brainwashed mind, in to reality.

Thank You

-- Anonymous, February 23, 2003

You know, one fact would clarify alot on the press, and there veiw on Micheal . How much do you think a major magazine or tabloid TV show would pay for a good shot of Michael Jackson? Now, how much do you think they would pay for a bad one?

-- Anonymous, February 22, 2003

Greetings, Martin Bashir deliberately portrayed (edited the interview in such a way) Michael Jackson to draw publicity to himself and his interview.

Plus the FACT that THAT THERE are perhaps thousands of PEDOPHILES in this world WHO show the loving characteristics Michael has for children, DOES NOT, OR CAN NOT IN ANY WAY show that there are no ADULTS who show such loving traits toward children. Children's innocence, freedom, love, and openness IS SOMETHING THAT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LACKING in adults and IT IS EXTREMELY INSPIRING. IN FACT, It is more persuasive that a genius like MJ DRAWS an inspiration from that. On top, don't forget the very things some point out as signs of pedophilia about MJ, could be sited as signs of a deeply caring heart and soul THAT IS NOT THAT MUCH EVIDENT IN today's society which values detachment than attachment, autonomy and arrogance than dependence or interdependence and innocence.

Let's also not forget that SLEEPING with children can culturally be relatively interpreted. It is the INDIVIDUALISTIC and Pedophile infested WEST that thinks that it is negative. But in other cultures it is not that a big deal. In fact, it is irrelevant and it is quiet alright to sleep in the same bed with children.

What matters is not what is presented as such, it is how you interpret it. And the interpretive glasses that some ppl (who think MJ is a pedophile) wear is the problem not necessarily what Michael does.

Michael is PERHAPS one of THE DEEPEST PERSONALITIES on the planet with a caring heart, and very delicate soul, whose PERVERTED environment can't understand....in their abject loss of what it means to have a deep connection with others.

Michael Jackson is NOT JUST THE BEST, he is THE One and the Only. And more than all he is ONE FREE AND LOVING HUMAN SPIRIT.

Peace, Josh

-- Anonymous, February 22, 2003

What has been done to Michael Jackson by Martin Bashir is the most upsetting piece of 'journalism' I have ever seen. It's about time that these journalists employing the faux naif style were got rid of. The whole enterprise is dishonest, unethical, immoral, deceitful and cruel. The situation that Michael Jackson finds himself in is extremely complex and is open to misrepresentation and distortion by the likes of Bashir. It is NOT the job of the media to put people on trial in such a way. If there is any hint of misconduct in Jackson's behaviour let it be dealt with by social services and the suitable authorities. Bashir only wanted to bring Jackson down and he stuck to his agenda of humiliation form the very start. The only aspects of Jackson's life that should be of direct interest to the general public are his artistic activities. I would like to start a campaign to bring journalists of the sort of Bashir to public account for their dishonest, unethical and unprofessional conduct.

-- Anonymous, February 22, 2003

I am absolutely outraged that some of you moronic twits could even think that Michael Jackson could be capable of child abuse, for anyone that has ever been abused in there childhood would know that hurting someone they way they were hurt is not possible, sure you have sickos out there that think about messing people up but for someone that is in the public eye all the time and is so loved for his music to do something that is outrageous its ludacris.... All you people that think it is true are very narrow minded people that live for tabloids and you should be ashamed of yourselves... People who ridicule other people just for popularity need help and there are certainly alot of people that have expressed there thoughts here that need help... I would be ashamed to call any of you freinds let alone sons or daughters... why dont you all get a life instead of living for every word on MJ's I dont even listen to his music, more to the point i would probly only be able to name one of his songs but anyone with half a brain would know that some people will do anything for money and that is exactly what this boys father did... If this boy has been abused by anyone it is his own father for making him do such a horrible thing...

-- Anonymous, February 22, 2003

OMG! YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE SOMETHING AGAINST MICHAEL JACKSON ARE IDIOTS! oK NUMBER 1 ABOUT MIKE'S SKIN COLOR. WHITE PEOPLE TAN IN THE TANNING BED ALL DAY LONG JUST TO LOOK DARK. SO WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG IF A BLACK MAN WANTS TO LOOK WHITE?? ALSO THE REASON WHY HE WAS LOOKING TO THE RIGHT IN THE INTERVIEW, WAS BECAUSE HE WAS LOOKING AT THAT GUY WHO WAS ASKING HIM THE QUESTIONS! I DON'T THINK MIKE SHOULD HAVE LET THAT GUY GIVE THE INTERVIEW BECAUSE HE IS A TRAITOR! ABOUT HIM MOLESTING THE KIDS! HOW THE HECK DO ANY OF YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID AND WHAT HE DIDN'T DO???? IF ANY OF YOU RIGHT MINDED PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW THAT MIKE DIDN'T DO IT! IF YOU ARE A TRUE FAN YOU WOULD KNOW IT! MIKE IS WONDERFUL WITH KIDS AND I WOULD LOVE FOR HIM TO BE MY DAD! HE IS A BEAUTIFUL PERSON NO MATTER WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE! I AM A VIRGO AND HE IS A VIRGO, WE HAVE CONNECTIONS! LOL MIKE IF YOU READ THIS! I LOVE YOU TO DEATH! YOU ROCK! I LOVE THE WAY YOU DANCE AND SING! YOU HAVE THE COOLEST VOICE EVER! AUTUMN!

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2003

Cat Smith, Please don't compare the possibility of Tom Cruise being homosexual, to the possibility of Michael Jackson being a pedophile. They are completely different things.

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2003

Let's just say that normal adults do not share their bed with kids. It does not matter how kind he appears to be. Many pedophiles come across as kind. I have no idea whether Jackson was ever actually sexual with a child or not; only he and the kids know that. However, where there's smoke, there's usually fire. I have personal experience with this, as I found out that my 12 year old son was being groomed for seduction by a man whom I considered to be a trusted and valued family friend. He wrote my son an email saying "I want to cuddle and snuggle and be sexual with you." He, too, shares his bed with a young teen and even takes baths with kids. He admits that he has sexual desires for kids. You never know...absolutely anybody is capable of absolutely anything. Never take chances when it comes to the safety of kids. Please see my website for educational info regarding pedophiles: http://www.geocities.com/tigerhawksoars/howpedophilesoperate.html There are many professional links at the bottom of the page. Also, for the story of my personal experiences with a pedophile, visit: http://www.geocities.com/tigerhawksoars/devastatingfriendship.html

-- Anonymous, February 21, 2003

After watching the interview with "Martin Bashir" and the FOX special "Michael Jackson Interview The footage you were never meant to see" you can truly see that the Michael that we all know and love is really a very sweet, loving, and caring man, father and entertainer.

I was enraged after watching Martin Bashir's interview because he added narations that made you question some of Michael's answers and now after watching the FOX special I know that Martin Bashir was only looking for ratings and a way to get noticed. He should be very ashamed of portraying someone who is such a postive mega star in such a negative way.

I am glad that FOX decided to air the Michael Jackson Interview because it cleared light on some of the answers that were made in the Martin Bashir interview. I am so glad that FOX stayed neutral in the footage that they aired by showing every thing that is Michael, the sweet, the strange, and the lonely.

I don't think that Michael Jackson is a pediphile and that he could ever hurt any child. I can't belive how many people were so fast to jump on the band wagon and accuse Michael Jackson of being harmful to anyone, especially children. If it was anyone that was being harmful it was Martin Bashir, he not only harmed Michael Jackson's reputation he harmed the children that Michael has helped throughout the years.

And for all of you who think that he molested Jordy Chandler in 1993, I don't think he ever touched him in any sexual manor because if Michael did there would be more children accusing him of indecent behavior.

Thank-you Michael for always being you. There should be more people like you in this world.

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2003

I think everyone should get the facts before you condemn someone. I truly DO NOT believe Michael is a pediphile. If my child was molested there would be no amount of money in this world that would shut me up. I would want the man to pay for what he did to my child. Nothing less than jail time!!! And yet the Chandler family was so easily bought. I think the reason why so many think Michael abuses children is purely for the fact that he looks and acts "strange". If this man were to look "normal" and let's say have alot of relationships with woman, there would be many of you who would never believe he be capable of molesting boys. But isnt the profile of a pediphile someone who looks and behaves "normal" in society's eyes??? Let's face it Michael Jackson is an easy target and that is why so many believe the worst of him. Case in point...There are constant rumours of Tom Cruise being gay and yet he is considered a sex symbol. Why? Because he looks and acts like a regular american guy that has relationships with women. If that had been Michael, everyone would have believed he was gay and that would be the end of it. Also think about it, if Micheal abuses boys, where are the other boys?? Why are they not coming forward? Why is it that Mac and Kieren Caulkin are not saying they were abused?? Or did he only abuse Jordy Chandler?? A pediphile cannot stop themselves so if Michael has a problem with boys, wouldnt other boys come forward and charge him with abuse?? And wouldnt parents of these boys refuse them to sleep over at Michael's house?? Let's not forget there are many children who continually stay with Michael at Neverland with the parents consent. So before anyone passes judgement and is ready to condemn Michael, get the facts and dont always believe what you read.

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2003

Under astrology Michael is like me a Virgo. But MJ has a moon in Picses. He is going to be analytical and sensitive, but also he is a "dreamer". The way he would like to have the world run, in relation to children is nice, however far fetched. He shouldn't admit he has children that are not his own sleep in his bed with him. MJ is rich enough to have more than one bedroom at his Neverland home. This kids can sleep in a separate bed and meet for breakfast. The tradegy lies with MJ not having a normal childhood. I like MJ, but in reality I do think he is a little "off the wall". If MJ were reading this, I would like to interview him in my way. A way that doesn't ridicule him like these recent interviews have done. I know you are hurt emotionally and physically, but let us your fans Give you that love you want! Frank

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2003

NO HE IS NOT HE IS THE KING OF POP AND ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT HE IS THEY ARE ONE THEY ARE JUST JELOUSE CAUSE THEY WANT TO BE HIM AND WANT HIS MONEY.SCREW ALL U HATE

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2003

You know its kind of funny how worked up these people who think that they hear a bunch of opinions, by "PRO'S" who know at this point no one will watch a special saying how great MJ is, know the man. You know thats actually a good idea, an alarm to go off before people reach his room, I think if I had the money I would do that. Is there really no other reason to get one other than to molest children in my room? You know how much evidence the intire american public eye can gather on YOU to prove you guilty of Damn near ANYTHING. But then if some of the stuff wasn't true, why would people make stuff up about him?hmmmmmmm, mabey they get payed and airtime. The one thing though that makes me giggle, is that arguement that if he wasn't so rich and famous he would be in jail. If he wasn't so rich and famous You wouldn't care.

-- Anonymous, February 20, 2003

FIRST OFF MICHAEL , HAS SOME WARNING THING AN ALARM TO WARN HIM IF ANYONE IS ENTERING HIS ROOM NOW WHAT KIND OF SICKO HAS THAT ???? AHH I THINK HES NOT WELL IN THE HEAD AND HIDING HIS KIDS FROM THE MEDIA GIVE ME A BREAK... HE SHOULD HIDE HIS FACE ... ILL .. SOO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN MEANS HES UP TO NOOOOOOO GOOD PERIOD WITH KIDS .. JUST BEC HES GOT CASH LET HIM GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING AHH THATS NOT RIGHT ... WAKE UP WORLD !!!!!.. HE NEEDS NOT TO HAVE ANY KIDS PERIOD .. THOSE PARENTS BY THE WAY THAT LET THEIR KIDS STAY WITH HIM ARE MONEY HUNGRY PARENTS WHO DONT GIVE A DAMM ABOUT THEIR KIDS.. NO MONEY IN THIS WORLD IS GOING TO EVER LET ME LET MY SON STAY WITH THAT SICKO OR ANY SICKO MAN GIVE ME A BREAK ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY !!! ...

-- Anonymous, February 19, 2003

SIMPLY...I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS! HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE SAYING "DON'T JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER" ? WELL IT PERFECTLY FITS HERE! WHAT MICHAEL DOES TO HIS FACE IS HIS OWN BUSINESS! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS ACTIONS... AND IT SEEMS AS IF PPL ONLY TRY TO DIG FOR NEGATIVE IN HIM B/C OF HIS FAME AND HIS FACE! (which is fine by the way) IF THE PEOPLE WHO TALK HAD AS MUCH MONEY AS HIM, THEY'D DO THE SAME! MICHAEL'S HUMBLENESS AND PURE GOODNESS OF HEART IS TOO DARN SINCERE & PRECIOUS FOR THIS MESSED UP WORLD TO HANDLE!!!! I THINK THERE ARE MANY OTHER PROBLEMS THIS WORLD FACES THEN TO TALK NON-SENSE ABOUT A HUMBLE MAN LIKE MICHAEL. IT IS PURE IGNORANCE!!! HE'S RICH BOTH PHYSICALLY & EVEN MORE EMOTIONALLY FROM THE HEART. HE HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE WORLD MORE THEN ANY JELOUS PERSON SPEAKS NONSENSE ABOUT HIM...I THINK EVERYONE NAGGING HIM SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE "MAN IN THE MIRROR" AND CHANGE THEIR WAYS. TRULY WHAT I THINK IS THAT HE IS MISUNDERSTOOD. MJ IS THE BEST AND MICHAEL I LUV YOU DEARLY! YOUR A STRONG MAN... KEEP LIVING AND NEVER GIVE UP B/C THE FANS WHO LOVE YOU CAN SEE WITHIN!! ~ XOXO

-- Anonymous, February 19, 2003

I believe that he is a very talented artist, however the way he has slumber parties(and is a 44 year old man is bizarre)and the way his only friends are under 13(and he's a 44 year old man is bizarre). He CLEARLY lied about the number of surgeries on his face. He CLEARLY lied about fathering white children---THIS IS NOT GENETICALLY POSSIBLE. One has to wonder what else he has lied about. There is NO WAY IN HELL that I would let my child stay there no matter how much he was willing to pay. Mike get some help before it's too late.

-- Anonymous, February 18, 2003

I am trying to be neutral; however, it is difficult. Let's just say, that Michael Jackson did not abuse the boy who first made the allegations- he still very well could be a full blown pedophile. Investigators who searched Jackson's estate following the allegations, found multitudes of photos of naked boys, toys that appeal to boys in that age-range, and an alert system that is triggered in the hallway to his room that activates an indicator light in the room before anyone can enter.(so he can stop whatever he's doing before anyone enters). Pedophile experts (who searched his estate and assessed the facts) agree that he is a TEXTBOOK PEDOPHILE. I'm sorry to all the fans I've probably offended, but seriously, open your eyes. You don't want to dislike Michael, but come on....gross. AND... one more thing, I'm quite sure most of his fans DO NOT PERSONALLY know him, and in all honesty, don't really know what he is or isn't capable of doing. He's certainly demonstrated poor judgement in the past.

-- Anonymous, February 18, 2003

Michael Jackson was a victim of extortion. Pure and Simple. 1. In 1993 Michael Jackson ...[after searching his home and taking several boxes of photographs and videotapes] "A source from the police department told the Los Angeles Times, "There's no medical evidence, no taped evidence...The search warrant didn't result in anything that would support a criminal filing. Fact.

2. It was learned that the boy's father, Evan Chandler, was a Beverly Hills dentist who wished he was a screenwriter. He had recently had a screenplay made into a movie that was based on an idea of his son's. The boy's parents, married in 1974, divorced in 1985 and were both now remarried and were involved in a bitter custody battle for the boy. It was also learned that Chandler was delinquent in his child support payments by $68,400. The boy's mother, who was with the boy on his visits with Michael, first learned of the allegations from police, not from her son or his father, and was completely shocked. She said she had no indication anything untoward was going on. But what doesn't fit in this case is that the boy repeatedly chose to visit Neverland over scheduled visits with his father...Jordy then complained that his father always wanted him to sit in the house and write screenplays, and that his father just wanted money. [Jordy made these statements during an interview with investigator Anthony Pellicano.] It was reported that Chandler asked Michael Jackson to set him up with film projects in the amount of $5 million per year for four years, for a total of $20 million, or he would go public with child abuse allegations. When his offer was refused by Michael Jackson, the father became furious.

3. 'I've seen so many extortion attempts against the Jackson camp and they never turnout to be worth anything.' Taraborrelli told Time magazine that in researching his book on Jackson, 'every damn butler, housekeeper, chauffeur and chef wanted $100,000 for their insights into his private life.

4. The recent outcry by the media/press has been spawned by Gloria Alldren the former laywer of the the chandler boy. ...Gloria Allred, an attorney hired on August 31 to represent the boy, held a press conference on September 2 declaring that, 'my client wants to have his day in court.' Within a few days of her assertion about her client that, 'he is ready, he is willing, he is able to testify. Gloria withdrew from the case and refused to disclose why.

Because Michael Jackson was wrongfully accused. MJ should fake his death because he'll end up making more money and live a provate life of ease. Besides, we all know you can make more money dead than you ever do alive.

EP

-- Anonymous, February 18, 2003

I think that michael is COMPLETELY INNOCENT because he absoutly loves children and would not do any thing to harm anyone (child or adult). People think that Michael is weird well they are wrong. He covers his childrens faces because he wants to protect them! He is not weird or mad. He is THE KING OF POP people LOVE him for what he is. I think that Michael is the BEST singer and dancer that ever lived. I would love to meet him. MICHAEL JACKSON RULES you people who think he is guilty are SO WRONG you are the weird people to think so. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

-- Anonymous, February 18, 2003

I try to think of Michael in a good light, but I keep going back to...what a freak he has become. I don't want to think of him that way, but how can I honestly think any different.

I don't know whether he is capable of pedophilia or not, but I would say the chances are good. The fact that he paid 20 million to the boys family to end the suit, really doesn't mean anything. The system tends to believe the child, so in all likelyhood, MJ probably would have lost in the court of law and went to prison. I know I wouldn't want to go to prison for something I didn't do.

However, Michael should have learned to not put himself in that position ever again. Why would he continue to have these intimate personal relationships with little boys and still have them sleep in his bed? I say that there has to be an addiction/disease, that would make him unable to stop. Why continue to risk so much, if not? So I say, yes, MJ must be what so many don't want to believe.

His appearance has turned to that of a wax doll. I'll never understand someone doing that to themselves. I understand changing a few things about yourself that you don't like, but my God. He use to look like a human being. I think the way he looked during his Thriller era, was very handsome. He should have stopped there. Now he just looks so unreal, so hideous and ugly. Does his upper lip even move any more?

His children are a different story. What he did in Germany, by hanging his son over the railing, was completely incomprehensible. I think they have a terrible future to look forward to. I hope someone steps in and removes those kids, so that they can have a chance for a better life. Look what their father has become. What can all of that possibly turn them into?

I will pray that Michael gets a grip on himself and do what is right, for his children.

-- Anonymous, February 18, 2003

I do not beleive MJ is a genius by anymeans, I think if that special LIVING WITH MICHAEL JACKSON proved anything it proved that. Although I do beleive that he wouldn't be so open as to still admit to sleeping in the same bed with kids if he felt he'd need to hide that ugly skeleton that has destroyed his fairytale stardome. I also don't see anything horribly grotesque about him sleeping with a kid in his bed, I think the way Americans in perticular veiw this as is a 44 year old "man" in bed with a kid our minds immediatly skip to sex, not sleep. If I had to descibe him in one work it would be "excentric" not "freak".

-- Anonymous, February 18, 2003

people don't know michael jackson and should give him some credit. i mean he's an icon to every single singer there is out there today, and that family ruined his career, so i guess the father did get what he wanted out of the whole situation. i like michael jackson and i don't think he would do that to any child, because that's just sick and he isn't.

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2003

Michael Jackson is a pedophile and a liar. He is not the "King Of Pop" but the "King Of Lies" or shall I say "Queen Of Lies" He lied about his surgeries, not molesting boys, and fathering white children. He is a self-hating black man who has made himself into a white woman. He is a disgrace. He brought all of this on himself. I do not feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for the ignorant fools who believe him. He should be in jail as would any of us who commited his crimes.

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2003

 He is as guilty of child molestation as any person can actually be . . . except for one important question: just what is molestation? The kids–Jordy Chandler, Macaulay Culkin and who-knows- how-many others, slept in his bed with him many, many times. Doubtless, they were totally infatuated with him. Doubtless, also, the boys were sexual creatures themselves–even though much of the world, with its head in the sand, refuses to believe that children are sexual beings. The applicable term there is “in denial.”

But the biggest denial of all is not to believe that anything sexual transpired between Jacko and those kids. Of course it did. I mean, hell, the guy grabs his crotch repeatedly during public performances, so you expect that he might not be sex-driven enough to fondle a pretty little boy’s weenie when he has them in his bed? All night long? For many and many a night? Hogwash! But is that “molestation?” Substitute the word “abuse” and the story is the same. That’s a question that only the boys can answer. My guess is that they liked it; they probably enjoyed the hell out of it, as a matter of fact. But they won’t–or wouldn’t–talk about it due either to some sense of loyalty toward that weirdo or because their silence was bought and paid for. I wouldn’t doubt it, though, to hear that many or most of them even initiated the sexual contact. Mr. And Mrs. N. Denial, boys are that way. Trust me, I know.

So what difference does it make if Jackson "molested" them in his bed, or in the bathtub, or out on the lawn of the south 40 somewhere on his spacious “ranch?” The kids wanted it, they got it, and I’ll wager that they enjoyed it, just as millions of others have done all over the world since the beginning of recorded history (ever seen a Grecian urn?), continue to do today, and will always do as long as there are boys. I therefore fail to see a villain in this story.

As for “sexual abuse,” please look up the word “abuse” in the dictionary. Before the onset of the current hysteria involving paedophelia grabbed hold of our national, indeed our INTER-national throats, the general connotation of the word “abuse” implied doing harm. Repeated harm. There must, indeed, have been a few kids here and there–boys in particular–who suffered mental and/or emotional harm (but nothing from which they couldn’t recover) from having been sexually toyed with in much the same manner as the vast, overwhelming majority of boys toy sexually with themselves . . . for which I ask you to check out all the current hysteria involving Catholic priests. And lawyers. (Man, talk about ABUSE?) But their numbers are minuscule in the annals of personal and/or mutual masturbation. Yes, even with middle-aged men in their beds. And I’ll venture to say that an overwhelming majority of them enjoyed it. And why not? It feels great.

Which brings us full circle back to the Jackson creature and his young creature comforts. Of course he did it. But did they like it? Silly question.

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2003

Michael Jakson is the undisputed King of Pop!!! No one has break any records set by him. He is the most talanted musician alive. He loves children and he would never molest any child. I been in Neverland 2 times, spent time with him alone. He is so pure and inocent that u just love him as an angel. He is so worried about children and would do a lot to make a child happy. Michael Jakson is as inocent as a 10 year old child and all he ever does is good. Whoever doesn't beleive this are just close-visioned living in TV worlds and bittered from your unhappy sad lives. You people just get a life!!!!

-- Anonymous, February 17, 2003

I also admire Michael, but I have to ask myself if my neighbor was doing the kind of stuff he's ADMITTING to doing with boys then my reaction would be there's no way I can ever let my kids around this man. Very often adults who molest children suffered molestation themselves, with Michael’s young life being as it was, I would be almost certain that he had been exposed to this kind of abuse himself after growing up in the entertainment industry.

I have worked for many years with both victims and perpetrators of child sex abuse and the pattern of Michael’s actions are 100% textbook! Also reading Jordy Chandlers statement for me was like something I had heard 1000 times in my dealings with similar cases in my work.

I understand people’s reluctance to believe that someone who we hold in such high esteem could ever do anything that wasn't completely honest or moral. But take away his celebrity status and look at the issue in another light. After you take it all away, he’s just a man.

He is guilty, but don't hate him for it. He's not a monster, he doesn't think that what he is doing is harming them. He really believes that it's love. He needs help and support and understanding, but it takes strong people to accept this.

Finally, a word to the parents of these children who go for overnight visits at Michaels home. Please don't allow it, but if it's something you really believe in then go along yourself and sleep in a big bed with your own child and leave Michael to sleep in his, alone. That's my two cents.

-- Anonymous, February 16, 2003

MJ is 100% innocent

-- Anonymous, February 15, 2003

I think Michael has some mental issues about children. It made me sick to see him holding hands with that boy on this special the other day. I read the court papers on the incident and it even made me more sick. I would not let my baby son around him. I think he is weird. I am not saying he isn't talkented I just think he needs some help. One last thing, him holding his child like that in germany and keeping his kids masked is horrible.Get some help mike..Otherwise your kids will grow up with many problems.

-- Anonymous, February 15, 2003

For a copy of Jordy Chandler's 1993 sworn declaration against Michael Jackson check out http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.shtml It makes grim reading.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2003

I personally think and belive Michael Jackson is innocent of the crimes he's been acused of. I think he is however guilty of his own kindness and willingness to give unware that there are those who will abuse his kindness. When watching his interview on ABC I felt very sorry for him, almost sadness. He seems so pure and ginuwine it's hard to imagine him ever harming anybody let alone a child. Moments of pure innocence showed like when he was climing his tree or racing his car.

I do belive he is a little strange, but take in mind he is the product of his life experiences. He's never known what you or I call "normal". His life is his normality. He may even think we are the wierdos (imagine that) I see nothing wrong with sharing your bed with children, as long as it's not sexual or abusive. I think he was telling the truth about it not being sexual. Michael holds children on the highest pedestal and I think it's pure admiration from him to kids, not anything sexual.

Michael Jackson's music has suffered due to the scandels however I've still listen to his music with the fairness I do any other artist. He continues to be creative and original, and I think he will continue to be succsesfull, maybe not to the heights of his 80's heyday but certainly that of his ealry 90's sucsses' if he delivers solid songs people will buy it. plain and simple. He had a couple of hits from his HISTORY album and this was after his scandel. I think the album only sold a little less than DANGEROUS (which sold as much as BAD) his latest album didn't have the flair that the other jackson- albums had, nor was the promotion any good. I think that's why his sells stumbled a little. Not because he's "wierd".

Anyway, to sum it all up. I don't think he was a molester. I do feel sorry for him more so now than ever. He's a victim of his weakness. yet he's still a very talented and prolific artist, who I hope, pray and belive he has strength and continue to do what he's done so well all his life....create magical music.

-- Anonymous, February 13, 2003

From watching Michael Jackson's behaivor over the years its obvious to see he has seperated himself from reality. Therefore forming his own world that he controls and lives in. His money allows him to paint his reality into whatever he wants. (Never Never Land , Three Cacausion Children, Cacausion Noes, Cacausion skin, Cacausion hair, Caucausion features on his face.) Its impossible to over look the fact that Jackson is ashamed of his once Afro Amercian Features and everything that is associated along with being an Afro American. He has deleted any black features that he once had. Even going to the point of having cacausion offspring. On top of all this there is no reason because you were abused as a child to still live in this childhood never growing up state of mind at the age of 44. He should have delt with these issues years and years ago so today he could be a healty person. Meanwhile micheal jackson is not healthy and is a menace to himslef and eveyone he is in contact with especially childern who are sleeping over in his bed. Someone needs to remove Michael Jackson from having contact with his kids are anyone elses kids. NO child should be made to wear a mask when out in public. For christ sakes he died his son prince's hair platinum blonde. Michael Jackson is not a careing man who loves children. He is a monster that loves to take advantage of children who are not in control . Just like when he was a child and not in control. Michael please turn your self in and get help i feel sooo sorry for your children. The life they will have how sick and twisted they will become just like you. With no sense of reality and whats normal. I guess 2 nose jobs and your face looks like a plastic barbi doll with tatoo make up on it is normal

-- Anonymous, February 11, 2003

for jordy chandlers complete statement visit this link

http://thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/mjdec1.html

in the last couple of days jordy 'liar' chandler has come forward to say that along with all this 'alleged' abuse, he & michael had sex.......... well if that were the case had he just forgotten about this while making his statement.

jordy chandler is a liar, martin bashir is a liar, michael rocks!

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

Everyone be honest about this ok,

What if michael was a woman?

maybe you still would not be entirely convinced about his love for children but if he was a woman would you or would you not find it more acceptable for children to stay over @ neverland??

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

It seems apparent to me that because MJ was abused by a black man (his father) he does not want to see a black man's face in the mirror. He is doing everything possible to change himself so that he won't have to face his fear and anger.

His fans may never see him for the sick, fragile man-child he is. It's the nature of idolatry to blindly adore that which we would never accept in our everyday lives.

They perpetuate the fantasy behind which Michael Jackson hides freely molesting young boys. They hand him the money he uses to pay off thier greedy families. The money he uses to buy babies from women willing to cut all ties with thier children.

Society neeeds to shun people like MJ - not mob him with adoration.

Fans should consider that they are condoning and even promoting his lifestyle. They are complicit in his acts.

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

anyone who reads ireland on sunday? george best says that while martin bashir interviewed him he used the same technique he used with jackson, he said that bashir implied that his wife alex drinks as much as him although she cant take more than 2 drinks, it just goes to show how this so called reporter uses sensationalism for his own publicity.

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

I'm not 100% sure that Michael Jackson is a child molester (but I still have some reservations). However, I do think that, after watching the interview, he is SEVERELY disturbed and should in NO WAY be allowed to have children, let alone be near them. It seems that Jackson is more focused on his ego and glory, which was especially evident in his treatment of his own children (which I'm not even sure are his BIOLOGICALLY). He makes those poor children walk around with Mardi Gras masks, without seeing the world through their own eyes. The man is projecting his own issues on those innocent children. He stated that when he went through puberty, he felt so ugly, he feelt like hiding behind a mask. Well, know he's subjecting his poor kids to the pain he endured. Another example is when he seemed more concerened about the public's attention than his own kids' welfare. First, the poor kids almost get trampled on a mob by the zoo, but he's not even cognizant of that fact. All he's concerned about is waving to his adoring fans. Then, he forces his own daughter to let go of his hand so he can sign autographs and when she won't do it, he tells the nanny to pull her hand off him. Then there was the disturbing way he fed his own child "Blanket" while literally wrapping a blanket around the child's face while the baby was writhing and screaming. And let's not forget his most infamous stunt to date- the baby-dangling incident. Poor demented Jackson didn't even seem to be aware of the stupidity of his actions. All he was concerned about was entertaining his public- at the expense of his own kid!! And, again that baby was kicking and screaming to get out of his arms, but Jackson tells a different story- the baby loved the attention and was making hapy noises (yet right, while he's struggling to cling to a balcony rail with his feet). So, to sum up, I don't know if Jackson is a molester- but he should stay away from kids, PERIOD. I'd never let him near my kids- supervised or not. And definitely would never take the chance of his innocent and "charming" slumber parties.

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

As a victim of child abuse I can honestly say that I believe MJ to be emotionally disturbed. A loss of a childhood is a prime cause for such a disturbance. Listen folks, I lost my childhood too. I was both physically and sexually abused from the time I was 11 up until I was 16. Funny, I never attempted to recreate it or regain it by befriending other young children and shareing my bed with them.

MJ needs therapy! With all the money he has put into plastic surgery and Neverland not to mention legal fees and out of court settlements, why not toss in a bit of change for a decent therapist and get his head back on straight.

It did wonders for me. In the meantime, I worry for HIS children. MJ has the ability to cut them off from anything other than his own version of reality and I fear that his children will carry on his twisted version of life.

I don't hate MJ, I pray for him. So should all of you.

-Jennifer G

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

Michael jackson is the best he is not a pervert he is the best

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

Despite being abused myself, I wanted the Martin Bashir interview to show MJ in a positive light, having innocent relationships with children because I'm a boy hood fan myself & still love his music. The problem was, right from the beginning, the similarities between Michael Jackson's behaviour & the paedophile who abused me were remarkably similar. Both acted as if they hadn't grown up. Both were obsessed with children & saw no harm in sleeping with other people's children. And by Michael Jackson saying the children wanted to sleep in his bed, he sounded just like my abuser & many other paedophiles who delude themselves into thinking that the children are "seducing them" instead of the other way around.

Although we didn't see a child being actually abused, it was the subtitles in what Jackson said & his body language, particularly when he was around children (e.g.Gavin, 12yr boy) that added to the suspicion. Lying profusely about surgery to his face, also did not help his case, because it makes you wonder what else he was lying about?

The man who abused me was a sensitive & kind man, but he had an attraction to young boys that he could not totally control. Michael said that if all the children in the world were to suddenly disappear, he would throw himself off a balcony & end it (commit suicide). This is an obsession which I do not think is innocent. In my opinion, it's very unlikely that Michael has not, at some point, abused one of the children who has befriended. Although I'm sure Michael is a caring person & undoubtedly a musical genius, I fear very much for the safety of children sleeping with him at his house.

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

if micheal jackson was really guilty of being a peodophile then why did the parents of the young boy who he supposebly melestered settle for millions of $s wouldnt they just preferr him to go to prison for his action so he couldnt do any other child any harm i think they would! DONT PUNISH THE INNOCENT FOR THE GUILTYS SAD ACTONS(LIARS) i believe thos parents should be locked up for lieing thank u for reading

-- Anonymous, February 10, 2003

you people should be ashamed of yourselves.

It's absolutely disgusting how michael jackson fans are willing to condone child abuse and believe his blatant lies because of his acheivements in the music world.

are you people really dumb enough to believe he had only two surgeries on his nose and fathered all of his children? do you also think its ok for a grown man of 44 to sleep in the same bed as prepubescent boys? no society agrees with the latter except for pedophiles.

are you so blind to see that when fans and the media surrounds him he gets caught up in the limelight and disreguards his duty as a parent? Children are toys to him and are clearly at a great risk. taking a baby home with placenta on them is child abuse. holding a baby over a railing certainly endangers it's life. does the fact the children state they dont have a mother not bother you at all. Is it not clear they are being brainwashed and the mother has been paid off? his actions are disgusting.

whether or not pedophilia charges can been proved doesnt mean anything. It's obvious with the amount of money fame and power MJ holds anyone can be bought off including his former employees who would not testify under oath.

frankly I dont believe a word of Jason Vine's artical reguarding MJ's so called innocence. If these revelations were true then surely the mass media would've exposed the story and jackson wouldnt have gone to such lengths to influence the media.

if the evidence against michael jackson was as flimsy as he says the police would've halted the investigation and reversed charges. MJ's lawyers would have also told his client to take it to court.

Instead the police keep the case open hoping for others to come forward. michael jackson buys out jordys family and goes on a publicity campaign of sham marriages.

If michael jackson could have easily proved his innocence, like the author intimates, then why did he pay off the victim and go thru the trouble of numerous sham marriages? He certainly never acted like a man who was just trying to get on with his life, he acted more like a man who felt guilty. His pr campaign also has done nothing to save his career. It would have been far easier to get on with his life if he stood up for his innocence.

-- Anonymous, February 09, 2003

i do not agree with any of your negative comments about michael jackson, i suggest you research the jordy chandler case more as you will see that a lot of evidence points to the fact that there was no abuse, also if it were a genuine case of abuse, surely they would want him locked up and not just want money, (this money was used to fund a film made by jordy chandlers dad, which before the alleged abuse, his father had approached michael to fund the movie but michael did not hmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting)

also michael appears to me to be a very capable father, he did not'dangle' his child, the word dangle suggests that the child was unsafe but it was clear that @ all times that the baby was in no danger. the fact that the children wear masks is a decision made by michael to hide their identity, the same people who frown upon this are also probably the same people who for example think that people such as madonna keep their children in the spotlight too much and try to profit from them. yas are hypocrites! We love ya michael, your a sweetheart!

people should look @ their own lives and realise that people might not agree with the wat that they raise their kids and also think about how they would feel to be subjected top the constant unfair backlash of 'DA MAN MICHAEL J'

-- Anonymous, February 09, 2003

Having read Jordy Chandlers testimony and recently watched the martin basheer interview, I think the child abuse case should be re-opened - something has to be done. Debbie Rowe is a money grabbing witch!!what an evil thing to do-sell your own flesh and blood-During the interview michael stated that his children were surrounded by women thus they did not need a mother..he is emotionally retarded-yes they are women BUT they cannot offer them the same love as a good mother can!!I found it truly disturbing when michael was feeding blanket through the veil, the look of fear in that babies eyes was truly haunting. Nobody knows if Michael is sexually abusing his children, but it is clear to see that he is emotionally abusing them by subjecting them to the press, forcing them to wear masks etc...he states that "the most loving thing a parent can do is share a bed with their children"..i have to disagree...the most loving thing a parent can do is provide their children with a loving, stable upbringing...Michael has lost out on his childhood, but he is subjecting his own children to the same misery that he has been trying to deal with all of his life...he chose to bring these innocent children into the world, it is time to stop acting like a child and start acting like a father!! How many 44 year old men do you know that enjoy the company of children upto the age of 13?Get the man some help!!! Michael is a liar...as a midwife...there is no way that michael could have took the baby out of the hospital with placenta on it...as the placenta must be examined for any abnormalities. The interview, in my mind was a cry for help...the fans on this website must admit that michael jackson needs psychiatric help...his music is unbeatable...but the innocent victims of Michael Jackson must be saved...before they turn out as messed up as michael himself.

-- Anonymous, February 09, 2003

As a previous person posted, Michael Jackson has all the classic signs of a pedophile. He is getting away with this because of his wealth. The parents of the children who stay with him are choosing to believe that their children are okay because they are financially benefitting from the experience. Its a bargain with the devil.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/mjdec1.html Read the actual complaint by Jordy Chandler.

"The first step was simply Michael Jackson hugging me," the deposition reads. "The next step was for him to give me a brief kiss on the cheek. He then started kissing me on the lips, first briefly and then for a longer period of time. He would kiss me while we were in bed together."

He says: "Michael Jackson told me that I should not tell anyone what had happened. He said this was a secret."

THE district attorney of Santa Barbara County, Mr Sneddon, insisted Jackson lied in a previous television interview with Diane Sawyer, a US journalist, when he claimed he had been cleared. "Jackson has not been cleared," Mr Sneddon said at the time. "The investigation is in suspension until someone else comes forward."

Did you notice that MJ's eldest son has his hair dyed blonde? He had darker roots. MJ is trying to recreate his perfect image of what his children should look like, to the extent that he dyes their hair!

British child expert Mike Hames said: "He is abusing his own children by using them as objects."

Dr Michele Elliott, of London's Kidscape charity, said: "He treats his children like toys. You do not jiggle them from balconies and put their lives at risk. He is seriously deluded. He has practically bought these children and they need to be protected from him."

The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children said: "His claims that he shared his bed with many children and it is what the whole world should do could be used as justification by people who want to sexually abuse children."

The discrepancies have raised the issue that the child ("Blanket") may not have been fathered by Jackson, as his own mother, Katherine, has already suggested. Last November, Mrs Jackson was quoted as saying: "That boy's not a Jackson. I know a Jackson when I see one and that ain't no Jackson."

In my opinion, this is a man who is using children to meet his own needs. It seems he finds it impossible to relate to normal, emotionally mature human beings so he has turned to children and animals to meet his own emotional requirements. He is a voyeur, if not actually touching the children. He is getting off on being able to emotionally coerce them into doing whatever he wants, even though it is his *money* that allows him to do this.

-- Anonymous, February 09, 2003

Hell no! i dont beleve ne of the things tht ppl are saying! i just watched tht documantary on him nd i beleave everything that he told that martin guy! so everyone who thinks that he actually did ll those horriable things just watch the doc. again AND PAY CLOSE TTENTION TO THE PART ABOUT THAT GUY WITH CANCER!

-- Anonymous, February 08, 2003

I am in two minds about the recent documentary about michael, i watched it in horror, i praise martins interview technique and find it baffling that so many people are quick to codemn a man who could help these poor children-the innocent victims of michaels deluded freak show of a life. It is clear that michael lost his childhood, but why does he insist on taking the "gift of childhood" away from those "precious" children of his own? He is creating an unstable environment for them and history is undoubtedly repeating itself! I believe that Jackson needs help...it is crazy that their is grown men and women on the tv, eg Uri Gellar...insisting that their is nothing wrong with michael or the way he is bringing up these children!they are not real friends but publicity seekers...michael needs people in his life that will tell him when he is doing wrong. In the interview, we seen the infamous "baby dangling" incident, i found it shocking that there was so many people within that hotel room that simply let that babies life get put in danger....it makes one think what else they are turning a blind eye to.

I think michael needs help, not punishment...it is upsetting...but the fans that have commented on this site must consider these poor children...denied of privacy,a mother, and dangled out of hotel windows!!!!!!not to mention brought up by a 44 year old man trapped in a 6 year olds body

-- Anonymous, February 08, 2003

I think michael is a brilliant artist and i feel he is not a pedophile he is just a simple man who has had a hard life and is trying to treat kids the way he was not treated as a young lad.also i believe he wants to be a boy 4eva therefore that is why he has named his house never never land.the documentery was totally unfair due to the fact that it only showed a few hours of the space of a few weeks!i love him and hope people see how nice he really is love kirsty xxxx

-- Anonymous, February 08, 2003

Child protection services should really step in here and investigate. Search his home for kid porn, and ban him from coming into contact with children. This is disgusting that he can get away with this shit simply because he has the money to build himself a castle and pay people off. If they can't prove he's buggering little kids, can't they take him off the streets due to insanity? There would be a real case for sending him to the funny farm.

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2003

Isn't about time the opportunistic parasites got a life and left MJ alone? Evan Chandler committed felony assault on his son when he had him injected with drugs to force a false confession out of him, and Evan Chandler should be put away for good for it. There's NO PROOF that MJ did any of the horrible things that he has been accused of, and until there is, he's innocent by law - PERIOD. End of discussion.

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2003

its hard to say if he actually did these awful things, but after the interview it makes me wonder how crazy all the money and fame made him, i remeber mj when thriller came out and it was wonderful but now after all his surgerys trying to become something he is not and locking himself up in never-never land shows that he is trying to live out some fantasy of a childhood he never had. i would never leave him alone with my children..........................

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2003

michael jackson is a pathological liar and a freak. watch the 20/20 interview again and look at his eyes. He is constantly looking to the right, a sure sign of deception.

NONVERBAL DECEPTION CUES The Nine Months Pregnant Pause ­ Pauses Liars have longer pauses, shorter answers and longer times between a question and a response than someone who is merely nervous. It makes sense that liars need time to create the lie, recalling the truth takes less time. If you ask a clerk if they gave you back the correct change and there is a long pause before their response it may be an indication of deceit. This is not a cue you would take in isolation as fact. You might combine it with checking to see where their eyes go after you ask them the question. People tend to look up to the right to visualize or create a new response or down to the right to create the sounds of a new response. We recall information that occurred in the past by looking up to the left or down to the left. Spot a liar by listening for pauses and right eye movement. Be credible by answering spontaneously

heres the freak part more to come

theres no way prince michael is his biological son, its genetically impossible to have a blonde child with blue eyes when the bio dad is black. dont believe me ask your biology teacher.

kinda scary how much he looks like macauly, guess now that kulkin has finished puberty jacko needs a new boy toy

the part about mj taking him home from the hospital with fresh placenta on him is sick. that is child abuse

love the part about the mothers too. according to the kids they dont have one. what a sick world this is when a mother gives up her child for money and allows a pedophile to raise him. any doubt as the their marriage being a sham now?

why is it that michaels so called friendships with "children" mostly involve boys? those are the ones that sleep in his bed. and why is it these friendships dont last beyond puberty. that 20/20 interview was pretty creepy when MJ talked about children and puberty.

the fact that so many of you defend him is mind boggling. if i had children theres no way in hell theyd spend the night in never never land.

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2003

frankly I've never been at ease with michael jackson. Ive always thought there was something very bizzare about his relationships with children. It's just unnatural for a grown man to spend the amount of time michael jackson does with children, not to mention that its completely innapropriate to SHARE A BED WITH THEM.

what I find more bizarre, is how so many people can overlook such obvious signs of pedophilia and blatant abuse of his own children, because of his star power.

here are some essential elements of pedophilia: identify with and idealise children

identify themselves as children

preoccupation with children

often put themselves in occupations that allow contact with children

befriend parents for the purpose of meeting children

narcissitic tendencies ie obsessive cosmetic surgery

suffered child abuse themselves

gender reversal issues ie acting effeminate

sound familiar anyone?

-- Anonymous, February 07, 2003

Michael Jackson is dumb and gay. He fucked a little poor boy and his dick is blotchy. He sleeps with little kids in bed and he molested me to. He will go to hell!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, February 06, 2003

* * * MICHAEL JACKSON IS THE BEST ENTERTAINER EVER! * * *

OF COURSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENTS NOTHING IN THIS WORLD AND BECAUSE OF THAT THEY ARE JEALOUS, VERY JEALOUS AND ... THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED

FUCK THAT CHANDLER, HOPE HE DIES A VERY CRUEL DEAD

MICHAEL JACKSON 4EVER

-- Anonymous, February 05, 2003

Michael Jackson is a homosexual pedophile. He should do the world a favor and commit suicide.

-- Anonymous, February 05, 2003

I heard , they will show a documentary on TV about MJ

-- Anonymous, February 04, 2003

Michael Jackson is a pedophile.Anyone who ever thought Kurt Cobain was ill because he decapitated his head with a shotgun should realize Michael Jackson's far more ill than Kurt Cobain was.I think he's turned out like he has because he never had a normal childhood and he claims to have been abused by his father.Over the allegations of statutory rape of that boy Jordy Chandler,I believe he was guilty of it because if he was innocent he would've gone to court with him rather than paid him off.He's also admitted children sleep in his bedroom but denies having sexual intercourse with them,again I don't believe him over that because that wasn't the case why would he be sharing his bedroom with children?.Another thing he said is that he's only had 2 plastic surgery operations and blamed his skin color transformation on a skin condition called vitiligo when everybody knows how much plastic surgery he's had.

-- Anonymous, February 04, 2003

Hi, writing from London, England. Personally, I don't think Michael Jackson is capable of such a thing, but the fact that he felt the need to pay these people off does raise a question, but what raises more of a question is their accepting the money. If you were molested would u not want to see the person really pay for what they've done? What is a sum of Money to somebody like Michael Jackson? Why not really hurt him, ruin his career and see him imprisoned? Providing it wasn't all lies which is unlikely. The boy's story and familily's reaction has too many holes in it. Michael Jackson should have seen the case through to the end, it may have saved him a lot of grief from the press and made them feel stupid and petty at the same time. That's my opinion for you.

-- Anonymous, February 02, 2003

I am a big fan of Micheal Jackson and I am only 13. Even before I read this article I knew that he was inocent. It did help to answer some questions I had though. I also think that for the baby drop thing, he was just trying to show of his son. The press takes things way to far. I will always be a devoted fan of Micheal Jackson.

Emma

-- Anonymous, January 20, 2003

MICHAEL JACKSON IS NOT A PEDOPHILE! HE IS 100 % INNOCENT!!!!!!! FUCK YOU HATERS, AND PEOPLE WHO THINK HE IS.... YOU DONT KNOW SHIT!

-- Anonymous, January 18, 2003

Hello Everyone! There is something I have to say...First of all Danie Letrow the article was great! Second of all...HOW CAN SOME OF U STILL THINK HE DID THAT?! HE IS THE MOST CARING MAN ALIVE! HE CARES FOR EVERYONE! How can u think that such a wonderful man would do such a thing? I mean he was on stage when he was 5 years old! He was in bars at the age of 7! He saw more than a child should at that age! His childhood was ripped away from him and he was thrown into a world where adults ruled and anything they said goes! He was also abused as a child! I mean this man is gone through WAY more than u can ever imagine! HOW DARE U JUDGE HIM BEFORE YOU EVEN KNOW HIM! MAYBE IF U HEARD THE SONG "Childhood" YOU MIGHT UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BETTER! MICHAEL CARES FOR EVERYTHING, U MAY VIEW HIM AS ECCENTRIC BUT GUESS WHAT? HE IS UNIQUE IN HIS OWN WAYS JUST LIKE YOU AND ME! IT OUTRAGES ME TO SEE PEOPLE WHO STILL THINK THAT MICHAEL WOULD EVER DO SUCH A THING! YOU PEOPLE DISGUST ME AND I CANNOT EVEN FATHAM WHY IN THE WORLD YOU WOULD EVER SAY SUCH A THING! Michael would NEVER do that! He is just such a kind man, and he needs to relive his childhood because his was stolen away! THATS ALL! END OF STORY MAYBE U should think before you judge such a wonderful man! ~Michelle~ P.S. MICHAEL I LOVE YOU SWEETIE!!!I WILL ALWAYS KEEP FIGHTING FOR YOU TILL THE END OF TIME XOXOXOXOXOXOXO!

-- Anonymous, January 17, 2003

I belive MJ is innocent.And untill there is proof i will keep on beliving he is innocent,because that is how the system works for everyone.Anyways i really like his new cd invincibal, at first i dident really care for it but the more i listen to it the better i like it.

-- Anonymous, January 16, 2003

I'm from Tunisia (North of Africa) I don't think that MJ has done these bad things to this boy, we must not forget that he is a legend and he has influenced majority of his fans he don't deserve to be threatened by those things, also his last album (invincible) is not bad it deserve more promotion that is all.

-- Anonymous, January 15, 2003

i write from france and i think yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss mj is a pedophil because he try be a child for abuse him is a horrible man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Anonymous, January 12, 2003

I do NOT think that he did it. No way a kind man can do that to an innocent child. He plays around with children is because he wants to have his childhood back. There is nothing wrong, and this whole case is just a big set-up.

I believe in him, and he will never do that.

-- Anonymous, January 12, 2003

I say people are innocent until proven guilty. Most of the facts on this site do not prove that MJ is guilty. People have different ways of dealing with stress. My way is to "forget" about it and let God handle it, because there in ONE who sees everything and that is the LORD, GOD. God will handle these people in the end. GOD hates liars and slanderers. The Bible says "Vengeance is mine," Thus saith the LORD. "I will repay." So, I say leave it to God, and in the end he will repay, whether he repays it on this earth or in hell, God keeps His promises.

The fact is there are people out there who live to "destroy" other people (this is also in the Bible in the book of Proverbs), especially when there is money involved. But the truth is that people who spread malicious rumors and who are false witnesses will get theirs one day. Read it in the Bible. According to GOD, "He that diggeth a pit shall fall therein." "He that rolleth a stone, it shall fall upon him." But for (us) other people who don't know for sure who the guilty party is, here is a question to ponder on: If Jesus is Lord and he doesn't condemn or judge anyone, than who are we to judge anyone? Especially when we are outsiders looking in, we don't know or have all the facts, so why judge? One day, whoever is quilty will pay the consequence, whether it is MJ or Chandler, if they don't pay for it in this life, then they'll pay for it in the afterlife (in hell).

-- Anonymous, January 04, 2003

I have posted many articles on here giving MJ a hard time but the truth is I do it to cause a debate,but if as you sat MJ is not guilty of charges made against him by the media: Why did he pay criminals? making him also a criminal, why does he not now address the situation? as it is plain that it will not go away and even the biggest fool would have done something by now, I mean it's not as if he can't afford it, and as for caring about children, if his children do not grow up to be the biggest bunch of lunatics it will be a miracle. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO TREAT CHILDREN IN THE WAY HE DOES!!!!! HE IS A VERY SICK INDIVIDUAL AND IF HE WAS NOT GOOD WITH MUSIC HE WOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED AWAY A LONG TIME AGO.

-- Anonymous, December 06, 2002