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-- edit (edit@edit.edit), December 16, 2002
I used to think the same thing, but its your SOURCE of christian music... i gave up all hope and thought that all christian music was endlessly cheezy, but I moved here to jacksonville and always find myself listening to real good Christian Rock on the local christian radio station 89.3 FM... not only that, but sometimes they even play a some good new age/techno type christian music... now that i think about, i even heard a band play live in Kansas, and they play Punk/Hard Rock christian music... but i can't think of any "NAMES" of specific groups... hope that helped a little
-- Luke (skywalcore@hotmail.com), December 16, 2002.
Well, I was going to say it's because most of it is by Protestants, who can't be expected to know any better ...but then I remembered some of the music I've heard in Catholic churches over the past few decades and decided Ah'd just bettah shut mah mouth! ;-)
-- Christine L. :-) (christine_lehman@hotmail.com), December 16, 2002.
The stuff that was produced in the late 70'2 and early 80'2 was much better -- from the Jesus movement time period. Stuff like Phil Keaggy (awesome) Keith Green, Second Chapter of Act, John Michael Talbot (still a great). You can still get their stuff at the Christian book store, but you may have to order.Anyway, commercialism came in and the rest, as they say . . . is history!
God Bless,
Gail
P.S. There is still an underworld network of great stuff. But unfortunately word of mouth is the only way to find them. You may like a fellow named Ken Tamplin, 70 style rock n' roll, GREAT LYRICS. For terrific blues, try Darrell Mansfield. Both of these are CLASS ACTS! But again, probably have to order, they ain't from the mainstream!
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 16, 2002.
I think the same thing, guys and gals. To me it seems like there is TOO much of a push for Christian rock to sound like secular rock. That will never work. I find that the best Christian music (rock or otherwise) is the kind that doesn’t try to conform to "rock" or "rap". Good Christian rock is just plain good Christian music. When it is forced to sound like "green day" or "metallic" it becomes a "cheesy" impression, nothing more.In Christ.
-- Jake Huether (jake_huether@yahoo.com), December 16, 2002.
Kathy Torrecelli is great!Before anyone attacks me that she is a prostetant, I first heard her music in a Catholic Church - they played her CD during Communion and it was so spiritual and so beautiful....after mass, I went to the back of the church and asked about the music and was told it was a CD by Kathy Torrecelli...very uplifting
ML
-- MaryLu (mlc327@juno.com), December 16, 2002.
Anyone heard the "Vineyard" music? It is anointed,uplifting music, most of it leads me to the heart of worship. John Michael Talbot is one of our greats, Annie Herring writes awesome praise and worship and sings it like an angel,pure love songs to the Lord. David, I think it must be a matter of opinion, there's tons of good Christian music out there. I do agree with Jake though, I don't like the hard rock stuff.
-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 16, 2002.
MaryLu, yeh, I think you mean Kathy Troccoli, {like broccoli}.
-- Theresa (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 16, 2002.
Hi, MaryLu and Theresa.ML, you wrote: "Kathy Torrecelli is great! Before anyone attacks me that she is a protestant ..."
But she is not a protestant! According to things all over the Internet, she is a Catholic. I think that she once left the Church, but came back.
She is about 43, an Italian-American from New York, who was apparently one of the pioneers of her type of music in the early 1980s. Here is what is found on one of the 2001 pages of (Catholic weekly) "Our Sunday Visitor":
"Catholic Christian recording artist Kathy Troccoli is unquestionably one of the grande dames of the Contemporary Christian Music kingdom. What's left for her to do? She's won three Dove awards, had a couple of Grammy nominations, and garnered oodles of No. 1 songs, including the Tom Booth penned anthem, 'I Will Choose Christ.'"At another Internet site, the question is asked, "Is Kathy Troccoli Catholic?" It sounds as though she gave this answer some years ago, as she was in the process of "reversion":
"I've been on a journey the last two and a half years in rediscovering more about Catholicism and God's heart in it. ..."Some years ago, Kathy performed for Pope John Paul II in New York's Central Park and Baltimore's Orioles Park at Camden Yards.
God bless you.
John
-- (jfgecik@hotmail.com), December 17, 2002.
well the reason Christian music tends to sound so awful is that Bach is no longer around to write it.
-- robert (4twells@verizon.net), December 17, 2002.
Or St. Thomas Aquinas. ;-)
-- Christine L. :-) (christine_lehman@hotmail.com), December 17, 2002.
Oh my gosh, Theresa, another thing we have in common. Annie Herring is my VERY FAVORITE! She was part of Second Chapter of Acts in the late 70's, but now is solo. What an annointing she has! It's all about Jesus! And you can tell.I got to see her at an old stone cathedral several years ago. There were only 200 people there. I got to meet her in person. If ever there is someone that can bring you to your knees in worship, it is Annie. I mean, everyone in the place was weeping from the extraodinary presence of God in the place.
Most people have never heard of her, so Theresa, you and I really are 'birds of a feather.' I got to meet her afterwards, and of course, told her how she has been one of only several people that literally "taught me how to worship." You know what. . she got tears in her eyes and hugged me!
Great news about Kathy Troccoli begin Catholic!
Love,
Gail
P.S. OH, I ALMOST FORGOT. My favorite worship album by Robin Mark, "Revival in Belfast" is being sold in Catholic magazines now! I'm telling you, it is awesome. Imagine Protestants and Catholics worshipping TOGETHER, live, in IRELAND! You've gotta get it! Theresa, you WOULD LOVE IT!
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 17, 2002.
It troubles my heart to see the negative comments about our Protestant brothers and sisters. There is a lot of very good Christian music available, some by Protestants and some by Catholics (Theresa, I'm with you on the list of artists!). When we come before our Lord in worship I think He is much more concerned with the condition of our heart and our level of surrender to His will in our lives than He is about whether we call ourselves Catholic or Protestant. I believe that we make much more progress in uniting ourselves into one Christian church by focusing on what we have in common than by judging those who are in different denominations. The scripture about taking the log out of your own eye before trying to remove the spec from your brother's eye comes to mind. I don't think we create much of an inviting atmosphere for our Protestant brothers and sisters to come and learn about the Catholic church if we have an attitude that "it's because most of it is by Protestants, who can't be expected to know any better ". If I were still Protestant (I converted about 9 years ago) and heard a statement like that, I certainly wouldn't be drawn to hear any more about the Catholic church. What drew me to it was meeting people who could explain the fullness of "their" church without being defensive or judgemental about where I was at the time. I believe that Christian worship music does not have denominational barriers. We come before the Lord in worship stripped of all of our earthly titles, emptied of all we cling to here, and simply fall on our knees before Almighty God. I think that this kind of music is one way we can come together and taste what it will be like in heaven and that it can be an experience of unity and breaking down barriers between us as fellow Christians. Like the old song says, "They will know we are Christians by our love".
-- Shelly (shellycurrin@yahoo.com), December 18, 2002.
Shelly, I don't understand what you're talking about, but your point is good. I guess maybe you assumed the negativity was directed at Protestants because the music market is truly saturated with Protestants, but that really is beside the point, or at least the reason for the run down tunes. Christine was just teasing earlier in her post which would see if you read the whole thing.It's true, though, that Christian music was better in the 70's and 80's, but I guess I feel that way about secular music as well.
So chill out, Shelly, this thread is not a railing against Protestant music. Like I said, though, they seem to have the market cornered!
God Bless,
Gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 18, 2002.
Hey Gail, I gotta tell ya this one. John Michael talbot came to our town last year. My husband and I were volunteer greeters so we were in the church while he and the 'roadies' were setting up. I went into the little chapel connected to the church to pray before the tabernacle, alone, there I was and I looked up and in walked J.M., to pray before he sang.Well I started imagining 'oh I'll ask him if I could pray with him,etc. da da da, and I was getting all nervous, and the Lord spoke to my heart, " Theresa, I am here. I am there in the tabernacle. Keep your eyes on Me, not him. Who do you get more excited about, him or Me?"
I stopped in my tracks, and put my whole attention on Jesus. I prayed there for a good 10 minutes, and THEN, went and prayed with John Michael Talbot. It was a precious private moment. Isn't God good!!
-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 18, 2002.
Dear John,Great news about Kathy Troccoli being Catholic...although I heard her music for the first time in a Catholic church, I always thought she left the church...
BTW, thanks for the correct spelling of her last name...I goofed!
ML
-- MaryLu (mlc327@juno.com), December 18, 2002.
Hi Gail, thanks for clarifying. Sorry I misunderstood, I didn't realize Christine's comment was a joke. I'm new to the forum and I guess I don't quite know how to interpret things yet. I've chilled :)
-- Shelly (shellycurrin@yahoo.com), December 19, 2002.
Welcome to the forum, Shelly!!!
-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 19, 2002.
Gail,Have you listened to Robin Mark's sequel to "Revival in Belfast"? It's called "Come Heal This Land" and was recorded live in St. Patrick's Cathedral. I'm giving that to my wife for Christmas (good thing she doesn't visit this forum ;-) Just thought it might interest you. If you go to www.robinmark.com, there is a listing of all of his albums.
Some of my other current favorites:
Vineyard's "Believe" Vineyard's "An Evening of Worship" Michael W Smith's "Worship Again" Hillsong's "Touching Heaven Changing Earth" Lindell Cooley "Open Up the Sky" Lindell Cooley "Desperate For You" Brian Doerksen "You Shine" Paul Wilbur "Lion of Judah" Paul Baloche "Open The Eyes Of My Heart"
David
-- Non-Catholic Christian (dlbowerman@yahoo.com), December 19, 2002.
For legibility purposes, let's try that list again:Vineyard's "Believe"
Vineyard's "An Evening of Worship"
Michael W Smith's "Worship Again"
Hillsong's "Touching Heaven Changing Earth"
Lindell Cooley "Open Up the Sky"
Lindell Cooley "Desperate For You"
Brian Doerksen "You Shine"
Paul Wilbur "Lion of Judah"
Paul Baloche "Open The Eyes Of My Heart"
David
-- non-Catholic Christian (dlbowerman@yahoo.com), December 19, 2002.
Thanks David! Yes, I DO HAVE the Robin Mark Sequel, "Come Heal this Land." There is just no understating the annointing of these two CD's. With Catholics and Protestants together worshipping Jesus, and crying out "COME HEAL THIS LAND," LIVE in Ireland . . . IT IS MOVING BEYOND WORDS! We should keep Robin Mark in our prayers, God is USING HIM BIGTIME!I'll try some of your other suggestions. I have found that sticking with Worship, rather than contemporary pop songs, is definitely your best bet.
Love,
Gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 19, 2002.
I forgot to mention, David, I am familiar with the song list you provided, and they are all GREAT!
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 19, 2002.
Whooops, I meant to say above, "There is no OVERstating the annointing on Robin Mark's CDs." I can't believe I made such a stupid mistake!
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 19, 2002.
Gail,Very cool! The songs one enjoys speaks volumes - especially worship songs.
There is a unifying power in this kind of music. It brings Christians from all backgrounds and flavors into one accord all focusing purely on Jesus Christ. When we sing together, we close our eyes and raise our hearts to heaven; we lose ourselves in the glory of Christ and the theological bickerings take a back seat for a few hours. We aren't arguing over anything. Catholics and Protestants, charismatics and dispensationalists . . . none of that matters. We are in complete agreement and the One whom we all adore is center stage for all to touch and embrace. In Him we live and move and have our being . . .
Praise God from Whom all blessings flow!
David
-- non-Catholic Christian (dlbowerman@yahoo.com), December 19, 2002.
All that stuff is probably fine, but my wife listens to contemporary christian music all the time, and I think if I hear another stanza, I will vomit. You know that band P.O.D.? You cannot expect me to beleive that is christian music. I will admit, the music absolutely ROCKS, but I don't know about being christian.If you want real christian music, you must go back much furhter than a couple of decades. That's right, I'm talking about Mozart's 'Requiem Mass', Bach's 'Saint Matthew Passion' and 'Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring', Handle's 'Messiah'. If you have never given classical music a try, give it one now. There is no music more beautiful. I saw the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra perform Mozart's Requiem Mass a couple of years ago. It simply does not get any better than that. When you experience it live, it's exillerating.
Well, I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Oh, did I mention that these men were all Catholic? George F. Handle was even ordained a priest, but never celebrated the Mass.
Give it a try,
-- Tom (tjb2_99@yahoo.com), December 20, 2002.
Oh, I would love to attend a classical mass. Do some churches have classical masses? (I know we have a Polka mass out here somewhere -- YIKES!! -- no offense to my German bros and sisters)I think the songs we sing at mass are extraordinarily beautiful, very rich in meaning, beautiful melodies. In fact, that is one of the main attractions for me as a musician/singer, is the music we sing. I wish we had some Catholic groups that put our own songs on CD. Anybody know of any?
Love,
Gail
P.S. Theresa, your John Michael story was very moving!
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 20, 2002.
I love Black American gospel music and gospel choirs - that music is way more "soulful" than some of the "cheesey" stuff you guys are talkin' about
-- Charity (praise_the_lord@church.net), December 22, 2002.
Dear Charity, you remind me of our very 'own' Ron Canoly {spelling?}, from San Jose, now he's big time. Now he knows how to worship with SOUL!!! You can't stay sitting long listening to him. I've learned alot about worship leading from him.Gail, at Sunday liturgies it's a blessing to lead the congregation in singing, but I notice we are 'captive' to a very limited variety of music, at least for guitars. Are your songs from "Oregon Catholic press"?I find myself going back to simple songs like "Servant Song" by McGargill, "My God and my all" by Zaragoza, and Talbot's "Holy is His Name", Only in God, and Come Worship the Lord". What do you sing on Sundays?
-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 22, 2002.
Charity,I love black American gospel music too. The problem is, I don't know what to look for, or where to find it. I never heard anything like it until about a year ago. I went to see the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra perform Beethoven's 9th Symphony (47 minute of sheer audio bliss). One of the opening acts was a black chior, singing southern gospel songs. I could not believe my ears! I thought the concert hall was going to fall down. People were clapping their hands and stomping their feet! This does not happen at classical concerts. The rules are very strict; you sit quietly in your seat, and don't make a sound. But, the choir director turned around to face the audiance and motioned for us to join in. The whole scene brought me to tears. I just wish I knew what arists/songs to look for. If anyone can help, please do.
-- Tom (tjb2_99@yahoo.com), December 23, 2002.
Hey Theresa:We sing a lot of OCP songs. I have noticed M.D. Ridge's name on many of my favorites. Our music director picks some great songs. We just did John Michael Talbot's Holy is His Name and we really broke into some spontaneous harmonies. It was beautiful. We also have a piano, organ, flutist and sax! Not bad for a little church out in the middle of rural mid-America! I LOVE OUR MUSIC!
I wouldn't mind going to an African-American mass! That would be awesome. I love Ron Kenoly too! Theresa, you've got to pick up Robin Mark's Revival in Belfast. I'm telling you, YOU WILL WEEP! There is a song on that CD that so incredibly annointed! It's called Be Unto Thy Name.
Love,
gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 23, 2002.
Gail- thanks! My daughter just asked me what I wanted for Christmas, I never know what to say, .. but I told her to get me a Robin Marks c.d.! [revival in Ireland] I'll let you know how I like it after Christmas.You are so blessed to have all those instraments. Sing your heart out for Jesus!! What did you say.. spontaneous harmony! I LOVE it when that happens!! A surrendered heart just singing for Jesus opens many many other hearts, it's such a great vehicle for evangelization.
Have you heard of Terry McAlmond? He's awesome too, he takes you to the Throne Room . His music is powerful, yet the cords are simple, it can be done easily, so the people can sing without books.
-- Theresa (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 24, 2002.
Hey Ms. Theresa, I'll give Mr. Mcalmond a try. The name of the CD you want is "Revival in Belfast," just in case your daughter has trouble finding it. I cannot wait to hear your feedback!Did you know that Rich Mullins (writer of Our God is an Awesome God) was on his way to conversion, actually scheduled to enter the Church, right before the car accident that took his life?
His last CD, "A Legacy, A Liturgy, and a Ragamuffin Band," was chocked full of Catholic teachings, and it is SPLENDID! You can even tell by the title of his CD where his mindset was!
Love,
gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 27, 2002.
hey Gail, yeh, my brother [who plays guitar, and sings, he taught me how to worship from the heart, watching him as a 'baby'!], he told me about Rich mullins on his way to become Catholic. That is so heartening. Also, Frank [my bro] told me Mullins kept no money, gave it all away, never got into the commercial trap. Must have been a great guy.My brother's great with lyrics. If you close your eyes and hear him you'd think it was Bob Dylan. He just finished making a c.d. IT's called 'Soul food for simple folk'.
Our little humble group {called "The Eighth Day"} is working on a c.d. Our bass player has some money tucked away, he and his wife want to do this . My early pre-Christian role model was Joan Baez. Iv'e been called a Christian Joan Baez. Funny, huh?
-- Theresa (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 27, 2002.
Theresa, our coincidences just keep piling up. My partner, or music director, whom I sing with, sounds just like Joan Baez. I've been told I sound like Jewel (which I don't think so) or a celtic Bonnie Rate -- WHATEVER THAT IS! I don't think I sound like either one. I think it's the style they are referring to. Anyway, your band sounds so cool! PLEASE GET ME A COPY!Dottie (my music director) and I very definitely have a great mix. Her voice is deeper than mine, but the quality is very similar. My voice is lighter and airier. People keep telling us how great we sound together. It's so funny because the first time I heard Dottie, I thought I HAVE GOT TO SING WITH THAT WOMAN! (Actually, now I know I was MEANT to sing with that woman!)
And here I am, first Catholic Church I ever attended, (and after having door after door slammed in my face at Protestant churches), singing my heart out to the Lord with a woman whose talent I am humbled by -- in the HOUSE OF THE LORD! I still tremble at the thought of it. YEARS AND YEARS I have waited just to sing for the Lord, and He gave me the greatest honor of all!
Will you send me a copy of your CD? I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT!!
Love,
gail
-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 27, 2002.
oh yes yes yes Gail, as soon as it's done. I don't see it being done for quite a few more months..email me your address and I'll send you one of my brother's. I do harmony on a couple of them. love,Tee
-- Theresa (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 27, 2002.
I forgot to mention, when Jewel first came out I saw her interviewed on t.v. and I thought, mmmm, that girl's going somewhere.I liked her style and her voice.
-- Theresa (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), December 27, 2002.
I used to think christian music was awful! Now however I think it is as good as, if not better than secular music! Listen to Third Day's Albums Come Together And Conspiracy No. 5. Jars of Clay's album Much Afraid, All Star United's album, Delirious Album King of Fools and Mezzamorphis, D.c Talk's Jesus Freak and Supernatural and Newsboys Take me to your leader, Love liberty disco etc. Enjoy! If you don't like these theres plenty of christian music out there you're bound to really enjoy!
-- oliver howells (oliver.howells@tesco.net), February 20, 2003.
I love listening to christian music. i think that christian groups have come a long way the past couple of years. I love groups like Gritts(hip-hop), Avalon(re-mix CD), and Zoe Girl. This music is all geared towards the younger crowds, so some people may not like these groups. I'm 19 and have been a christian my entire life. Sometimes christian music isn't all what we want it to be. But when i need to be encouraged and uplifted, christian music is the way to go. Air One is a popular christian music station in California, along with other states. But if you don't get Air One then try going online to listen to the radio staiton live. It's right at your fingertips 24-7.God Bless, Brooke Locke
-- Brooke Locke (gwnkids@yahoo.com), March 05, 2003.
Hi Brooke, I think it's great that you love Christian music. It can really move us to worship Jesus from our hearts. He is so good and I love just lifting His Name up in music. God bless you.
-- Theresa Huether (Rodntee4Jesus@aol.com), March 06, 2003.
I think the reason why people think that Christian music sounds horrible is because they are looking for it to sound like something they like in the (secular industry). God has blessed peopel with beautiful words to either sing unto him or for others to know Christ. It comes in Rock, contemporary, R&B, Soul, Rap, Big Choir sound, quartets, we have it all and whatever way you look at it, the music is from God himself. If we say it's bad we it's like saying God "stinks" so really give it a chance and just like we can induldge ourslevs in teh cheeziest Love song we can do it for a love song to God. Listen to Donnie McClurkin, or Carmen, Keith Green, Micheal W. Smith. Darlene Czchech, Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir, Christ Tabernacle Choir. The list goes on... trust me they don't sound bad at all
-- Daniela Soto (DLove3921@aol.com), April 29, 2003.
Hi everyone.(My honest opinion)
Some music is composed and performed for the "Almighty Dollar"; I prefer music composed and performed for our Almighty God.
rod. .
-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), April 30, 2003.
I haven't heard anyone mention David Haas, Marty Haugen, or Taize yet. They do "Catholic music" wonderfully well. Always interested in new sources of good Christian music, especially anyone doing anything Catholic.I have to dissagree with anyone who thinks the music in the church is bad . . . I think Catholic music is wonderful when compared with the church I came from . . . only problem, Catholics don't like to sing out too well.
I suppose that came from something deep in their tradition, but hope they can overcome it because the church has given them some wonderful material to work with.
-- Leon (vol@weblink2000.net), May 04, 2003.
You're right, Leon, about one thing. In the majority of parishes (possibly the great majority), "Catholics don't like to sing out."This is probably an "inheritance" from a time -- several decades ago -- in which almost no one sang at Mass except a choir (if there was even one of those). Catholic people, at least in much of the U.S. and northern Europe, tend to be quiet and meditative, rather than loud and exuberant. They don't like to call attention to themselves by singing out. They don't want to be embarrassed by making mistakes either. These are all factors in what you have observed.
Now, about the folks you mentioned ...
Thumbs up on David Haas. I have heard some beautiful things by him.
Thumbs "neutral" on Taize. I have not heard their music, but wouldn't mind having the chance to do so.
Thumbs down -- WAY down -- on Marty Haugen. I believe that this man is (at best) a theological dissenter. He has written a popular hymn that [in a late stanza (not often sung, thank heaven)] refers to God as "Mother." He uses ambiguous language about the Blessed Sacrament in his lyrics, not making clear that we believe in Transubstantiation. Unfortunately (in my opinion), missalette companies are proliferating his stuff very widely. One of the most widely used (in the U.S.) Mass settings was written by him -- "Mass of Creation," which I wouldn't doubt is so named to reflect an approval of the dangerous "creation spirituality" of the excommunicated Fr. Matthew Fox. Besides the suspect spirituality, I simply hate the sound of the music of "Mass of Creation." I have to put my hands over my ears to drown out the melodies -- which are used all over the place, while hundreds of more beautiful Mass settings sit on shelves, gathering dust.
God bless you.
John
-- J. F. Gecik (jfgecik@hotmail.com), May 05, 2003.
Two suggestions: Crispin (100% Catholic songs) and Fred Hammond -especially the CD Purpose By Design. Crispin used to use the phrase "Catholic Troubadors" in their promos, but now they call themselves The Catholic Funk Band. Personally, I like their first CD best, but others disagree. I talked with Daniel DiSilva (main guy behind Crispin) this year and he is one holy person. See http://www.crispinmusic.org/ .Fred Hammond (with or without Radical For Christ) is another inspired guy. Kirk Frankilin called Fred the greatest Gospel singer in America. No imitation of styles here. I like Purpose By Design so much I have given away at least ten copies. I cried the first dozen times I watched the videotape of Purpose By Design - especially during the song Please Don't Pass Me By and a couple others. Please Don't Pass Me By is from the Pages of Life CD.
-- Phil (ironchefphil@yahoo.com), June 21, 2003.
Gail and Theresa...Sorry I'm "late" on this thread, but I too went through the '70s and '80s with Christian music by Terry Talbot, Wendy Talbot, John Michael Talbot, Phil Keaggy, Keith Green, 2nd Chapter (Anne Herring), Matthew Ward (Anne's brother), Don Fransisco, etc. I have a great story about 2nd Chapter. They came to our church when I was a teenager and Matthew, their little brother was only about 16 or so. Of course, all of us teenage girls were collected around him...giggling our silliness...which I guess was more than he could take, so he told us to "eat rocks". Then, the three of them went on stage and blew us all away with their awesome, inspired music. I guess God can use the "vessel"...ha ha ha!
The only Christian group I like nowadays (not sure what persuasion) but definately NOT gaggy at all...is "Out of the Grey". They are really good because they do their own thing and don't make it a big pop-market-fest. Check them out! Oh, and as a I-can't-stand-this- one-and-never-could nomination: Carmen.
I'm must be old! (Actually, I'm forty.)
-- Victoria (tecdork99@pvfnet.com), June 26, 2003.
I beleive that christian musics must not be describe GENERALLY,, Music is mostly subjective to people,, I love songs that others do not, maybe because I see my experience with Christ to other song thats why I love them, Sometimes writers/composers use word that are suiting to them but other see this words as extra CHEEZY,,, Well we are individuals we can never tell whats insides this composers hearts while writting there piece,, "Maybe its us listener who have problems" we simply can't listen to the heart of the song rather are insecurity put this Christian Musics to damned!!
-- abel basilio (niceguy_bas@yahoo.com), October 23, 2003.
wow, abel, man.you found an old thread to dredge up. click the catholic link at the top of the page, and then click on the new answers link. join us where everyone is posting these days
-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), October 23, 2003.
Wow! God's moving and you're complaining about music? Have you really listened to non-christian music lately. It's been stuck in the same loop for about 15 years--spinning out the same junk year after year. Brother's and sisters in Christ--Catholic and Protestants, a great new form of music is forming--Worship led by God. I realize that I am on a Catholic string, so WAKE UP! God is alive and well and calling the world to his throne. I really believe Christian music, through, at times, simply a rip of secular stuff, is about to break new territory by being led "in spirit and truth" by God. Worship music is fast gaining momentum in the youth. I teach at a public high school and a great many of the students are moving in that direction. They are tired of the constant attack of profanity, violence, sex... It's just gone too far and they're bored with it... Prophetic worship--worship led by the Spirit will move forward. Can you please get out of your ruts. God is moving quickly....God Bless You
-- Ken Ferguson (kenjoyferg@sbcglobal.net), December 20, 2003.