Who keeps deleting my posts??

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ACHT TUNG, BABY!

Who the hell keeps deleting my posts? Just because I don't aggree with you guys, you decide to make sure nobody sees what I say? I just discovered this place several days ago (I am a regular on the Anarchy II board), and since then I have posted several things which have been promptly deleted by the Fascists who moderate this place. What is your problem? I haven't even said anything that bad. I have said two main things.

1) You shouldn't dwell on specifics like "Who killed Jesus". You should remember that he spent his whole life trying to make the world a better place and eventualy gave his life for that cause, and that should be enough.

2) You shouldn't worry about church approval for a marriage. If you love the person, that is all that should matter.

Now is that so awfull? So horribly sacreligious that you had to delete my posts? I know that writing this is proably pointless because you will proably just delete this before anyone has a chance to see this.

-- Anti-bush (bizkitnut666@hotmail.com), July 14, 2003

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If your second statement was true than why have marriage at all? If I love my girlfriend and she loves me than why not have sex? It is not that the Church has to approve. The point is that you profess your undying love for each other before GOD!!!! That is why the Church must approve because the Church doesn't want you to sin. It wants to save your soul. The rules are not arbitrary.

-- Scott (papasquat10@hotmail.com), July 14, 2003.

If you love someone, you do whatever will most benefit that person. Being willing to risk drawing another person into an ongoing state of overt mortal sin, the most destructive situation into which a human being can fall, is not an act of love. The Church does not "approve your marriage". It establishes - for you, not for itself - the essential facts concerning your intended marriage, so that you can enter into marriage with full objective assurance that your union is valid before God.

-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), July 14, 2003.

Send them packing, Paul. They don't have to be given a platform here for any pronouncements of their freedom to sin. If sin is what they choose, nobody can stop them. Let them go in peace.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), July 15, 2003.

That is a bad attitude to have Gene. As Catholics we are obligated to try to save people from sin. Yes they might still sin but that does not mean that we should send them away because they sin. What would Jesus want you to do?

-- Scott (papasquat10@hotmail.com), July 15, 2003.

Good post, Scott.

Nobody will ever have to delete you. But when a person insists: '' 2) You shouldn't worry about Church approval for a marriage. If you love the person, that is all that should matter.
Now is that so awful? So horribly sacreligious that you had to delete my posts?''

Yes, we ought to keep deleting this type. In this forum, we do not suffer fools kindly who dispute the authority of the Church.

Your intention is good, Scott. Antibush has his intention too. It isn't so good.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), July 15, 2003.



I'm sorry, but I never realised that marrying someone you love is a 'sin,' despite what unfortunate circumstance has happened in their past. You people are the most insensitive people on this planet!

-- steve (spirrottina@hotmail.com), July 15, 2003.

Steve,

I do not think you know what love is. A feeling is a single dimension of it. The choice to do what is right, especially if it does not feel right, is closer to love than you seem to be willing to go.

Karl

-- Karl (Parkerkajwen@hotmail.com), July 15, 2003.


You never realized that marrying someone you love, who is already married to someone else, is a sin??!!

-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), July 15, 2003.

Paul,

Stop saying she is already married. SHE IS NOT MARRIED ANYMORE! She has been divorced and the papers are there to prove it. An anullment is also just a piece of paper. That's all it is! It proves nothing! It's not like God is the one signing the annullment papers to say it's OK to marry.

-- steve (spirrottina@hotmail.com), July 15, 2003.


Dear Steve,

She may or may not be married. That's what the annulment process is about, and that is what you need to determine before proceding. A divorce is just a piece if paper. It can't undo what God has done. It is not God who signs the annulment papers, but that's ok because the annulment papers dont have any effect. They don't change anything. They simply state what has always been true. It is God however who joins a man and woman in the unbreakable bonds of valid marriage. What God has joined, man must not separate. (Matthew 19:6)

-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), July 15, 2003.



My statement about church approval for marriage was origionaly a response to a thread where a woman was asking if it was ok for her to marry a muslim. I said that it was good that she was being respectfull and all, but if the church said no, that still shouldn't stop her from being with the one she loves.

-- Anti-bush (bizkitnut666@hotmail.com), July 16, 2003.

Dear Anti,

How would you relate that to the words of God Himself, spoken to the Church - "He who hears you hears Me. He who rejects you rejects Me. Whatsoever you bind on earth is bound in heaven"?? Sounds to me like pretty good reason to listen to the Church.

-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), July 16, 2003.


Isn't anti-bush suggesting, ''she was being respectfull and all, but if the Church said no, that still shouldn't stop her from being with the one she loves.''

Only an anti-Catholic would say that. ''Being with the one you love'', anti-- can mean anything. Marriage is a sacred contract, with vows taken before God. ''Being with'' is not marriage; you can be with your German Shepherd; he loves you & you love him. But you can't say that's marriage. Neither can you say ''being with one you love'' is marriage. God speaks to us in His Church.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), July 16, 2003.


Paul,

Just because it says in the bible that god said something doesn't mean he said it. Remember, the bible was written by men. It was also handed down oraly for thousands of years, hand-copied by monks for another couple of thousand, and translated hundreds of different times, hundreds of different ways. You should be very cautious about taking anything in the bible at face value.

-- Anti-bush (bizkitnut666@hotmail.com), July 18, 2003.


Dear Anti,

The Bible is inspired by God. The human writers wrote nothing on their own. You are right of course in saying that not everything in the Bible should be taken at face value. The Holy Spirit, who inspired the writing of the scriptures, and the compilation of the Bible, also guides the Church in properly interpreting its divinely- inspired writings. You may not be in a place to understand or appreciate this, but your personal status doesn't change the objective facts of the matter.

-- Paul (PaulCyp@cox.net), July 18, 2003.



What, exactly, do you prople base your beleifs on? It seems rather silly to blindly accept something simply because you are told by your parents and an old book.

-- syk (none@given.org), May 29, 2004.

What, exactly, do you prople base your beleifs on? It seems rather silly to blindly accept something simply because you are told by your parents and an old book.

What do you base your beliefs on Syk?

The people here on this forum toward whom you seem to have disdain have studied and continue to study their faith through the Bible, other books, internet and newspaper articles, their parents, their priests, their friends, and their experiences. They are independent thinkers. That's probably more than you can say for yourself. Feel free to post again, but please come in a little stronger.

-- Brian Crane (brian.crane@cranemills.com), May 29, 2004.


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