good letter

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tradition has already been covered. There is good acceptable tradition acceptable to God and his people. Bishops are not apostles. Timothy recieved instruction from Paul he was not his equal in priesthood authority. It is not acceptable to elimnate apostles and prophets by trading places of these various offices and calling them the same. Why did Timothy take instruction from Paul? Paul knew more, and he had the authority of apostleship. Any bishop who would have claimed the apostles authority while they still lived would have been excommunicated. If offices were interchangeable why would the Lord have established so many. HE never said a bishop was an apostle. An apostle has the authority of a bishop and a whole lot more. A bishop has authority over a particular congregation, but his authority ends with them. Which one of you said that there didn't exist a catholic church until the 11th century? That was interesting. Whether it's true or not, we seem to come to this juncture. Either the Catholic church is the true church of Christ on the earth of it is not. If it is then protestantism hasn't a leg to stand on. If the Catholic church was an apostate church then the prostestants haven't a leg to stand of because they came from the catholics. So its down to one of two things... 1. The Catholic Church is the true church 2. The Lord has or will establish a times of "restitution of all things, spoken of by all the holy prophets since the world began" All this "mysticism" started long after the death of the apostles.

-- Frank Godfrey (fgodfrey@macu.org), October 08, 2003

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The Church does not claim that bishops are apostles. They are disciples though. The Church is Apostalic because it is founded on the teachings of the apostles and because it is guided by them and the Holy Spirit. The pope is probably the only one that can semi- claim to be an apostle because he has the same authority as the apostles did but he didn't know Christ the man. So the pope is like a semi-apostle because of his authority over the Church.

-- Scott (papasquat10@hotmail.com), October 08, 2003.

Mr. Godfrey:
You keep starting separate threads covering different aspects of nothing but your speculation. Not one thing you're expounding on is revealed by God, but you assert some of these as facts. Will you stick to a subject and have a dialogue?

Is the title here: good letter --a deep subject you need explored? Let us know what you mean by ''good letter''. I get a feeling you aren't sober. Please correct me if I'm wrong?

Again; if you make an assertion questioning the Catholic faith; please show some basis for it. It can be logic or it can be scripture. As long as it's more than a random opinion you formed while wool-gathering at the keyboard. This is a serious forum. (I hope.)

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), October 09, 2003.


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