Why Did the Saiyajin Lose Their Tails?

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In my world (Thus whenever I draw the characters usually, like in my Doujinshii) the Saiyajin's tails never got cut off. Such a cool trait shouldn't be wasted like dat!!!!!!!!!!! THE TAILS ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!! And the Chibi's should have 'em!!!!!!! Well yeah...I miss the days of Chibi Gohan with his tail...Movie #5 is cool cuz he has the Nameksei hairstyle but his tail, so yeah...But I think I'll stop drawing them all with the tails except Gohan-Kun. He's the only one who was never explained why the tail never grew back!!!! Gokou's was permanently removed by Kami-Sama, Vegeta was told by the guy at the Medical Machine that his tail could not be regenerated (Though Vegeta was sure it would grow back eventually), Mirai no Trunks, I guess, just had his tail cut off as a baby and it just must have had the same treatment as Gokou's did when cut off (My theory anyway), and the same for the Chibi's. But GOHAN had his tail, and Piccolo cut it off after he destroyed the moon for Oozaru Gohan, thinking the tail was a weakness anyway. But during the fight with Vegeta Gohan's tail grew back, though was quickly cut off AGAIN...And that was really the last time in the entire series we heard from the tails. I think that with the entire plot thickening and stuff from the Freeza Saga on the tails were just a forgotten thing of the past, and weren't so important (Plus I know from experience what a bitch they are to draw!). But we were never given a reason why Gohan's tail didn't grow back again!!!!!!!!! Plus I've seen a few Doujinshii that take place after the Freeza Saga where he has his tail, and it's so damn cute I just draw it anyway. But yeah...Anyone else have a theory about what happened to the tails? Or does anyone else agree with me how cool/and or Kawaii the tails are and they shouldn't have been disposed of? Itsu Ka Mata Aeru~

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 08, 2004

Answers

tails are cool!!!!!!!!!

-- ~*AngelGoten*~ (angelgoten@hotmail.com), January 08, 2004.

I think Akira didn't want to have to deal with the lil kids(Goten and Trunks) turning into the giant apes. Goten and Trunks are ALOT more powerful then gohan was at there age. So it would have been extremly hard for the others to control them.

-- Trinity (darkpanchan666@yahoo.com), January 08, 2004.

it must be hard for them to sit down anywhere cause of their tails... but then again they can fly

-- Takumi (Takumi_411@hotmail.com), January 09, 2004.

ya but don't you think Gotenny would be kawaii with a tail? then he could have a tail AND wings and be an Angel Ape cause that would be so kawaii!! Goten is kawaii! but yeah I think the chibis should have tails!

-- ~*AngelGoten*~ (angelgoten@hotmail.com), January 09, 2004.

hmmmm... what about Yugi with a tail hahahahha ya rite.

-- Takumi (Takumi_411@hotmail.com), January 09, 2004.


Good theory, but Toriyama had Piccolo destroy the moon long ago!! Twice, so maybe the moon grows back (The first time was in original DB, but Jackie Chun did it then)? Wierd. But hmmmm...Chibi Gokou or Gohan never seemed to have a problem sitting with the tails...Also if it WAS unconfortable tey could wrap them around their torsos like Vegeta, Nappa, and Radditz did. Hmmmm...I think Toriyama-Sensei may have just forgotten, but the TAILS KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!

And AngelGoten, when did Goten get wings exactly? Random note--In my Doujinshii your hair is similar style to Gokou/Goten's and YOU have wings and a tail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hehehehehehehe!!

Itsu Ka~

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 09, 2004.


their tails arent coming outta their ass cracks! and if u notice thats the part that rests on the seat. The tails come out above their but and connects wit the tail bone/spinal cord.

-- asdg (asdg@adg.adsg), January 12, 2004.

Yeah, you can feel your own tail-spot as a little dip at the base of your spine so you know just where to glue the tail if you ever go out cosplaying! And SG2, did I ever send you that E-mail detailing my "evidence" that Trunks and Goten were never even born with tails?

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 12, 2004.


I actually do have a theory, but I need to re-learn my basic Biology as to dominant and recessive genes to see if it works. I'll send it to you tomorrow morning!

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 12, 2004.


Yeah I got it. No tail scars. And DUH it doesn't come out your ass crack--Have you ever looked at cats or dogs or other tailed mammals? You'd have to be the most retarded person in the world to not know that!!!! It'd be aweful hard to crap with a tail in the way, ne? But yeah...I LOVE DA TAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN MY DOUJINSHII THEY ALL HAVE THEIR TAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 13, 2004.


Anyway, my theory (A bit patchy) is that a tail is just a recessive gene for Saiya-jin. Think about it, if EVERY SINGLE Saiya-jin went Oozaru when the moon went full the whole planet would be destroyed!! Anyway, if tails were a recessive gene only certain combinations of parents would bear children with tails. That would mean that the generation that Goku and Vegeta came from would have their tails, while the next would not. Plus that would explain why Saiya-jin military have tails. So also that would mean that the mating between a Saiya-jin and a human would result in an impossibility for a tail in their children. And Gohan? He's just a random mutation that screws up my theory! (Damn him!)

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 13, 2004.


Well, in every theory or fact, you always get an exception.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 13, 2004.

Good theory Yonk!! And SG2 in your doujinshi do I have wings and a tail AND have a similar hair do to Goten/Goku???

-- ~*AngelGoten*~ (angelgoten@hotmail.com), January 14, 2004.

Yup, all three infact. And yeah, you're a Chibi since you wanted to be 7 like Goten-chan AND to match your height!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahaha!!!! You've never seen my Anime version of Yonk, have you? Well since my computer is f'd up...Yonk, do you still have 'em? You can send 'em to AngelGoten and Majin Vegita! He looks so cool!!!!!!! AND HE HAS A FANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And we ALL have tails. TAILS KICK ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...

I believe I've asked this before, but if Shippo means tail in Japanese then Shippo from Inu Yasha is a pun on tail? Well Inu Yasha means Dog Demon so maybe it's not so bad...Do ALL Anime name their characters on puns? Even using real names are puns, like Yusuke from YYH means "Ghost Help" and Fuuko from Flame of Recca measn "Wind Child"...It's just wierd, ne?

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 14, 2004.


I thought the name pun thing was just Dragonball Z, because I thought that Akira Toriyama did that to be funny (being that Dragonball started as a gag comic). But I don't know, maybe it IS an anime phenomenon...and I have that picture you drew of me and my kawaii chibi sons! I will send it to Angel_Goten and )v(ajin\/egita. And tails are Kawaii!!

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 14, 2004.



yay!! I'm a seven year old!! yippee!!! And Yonk..they aren't your chibi sons anymore..=P

-- ~*AngelGoten*~ (angelgoten@hotmail.com), January 19, 2004.

Yeah, I'm teaching him to go Majin. I'm going to bring out the REAL fighter in him.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 19, 2004.

Majin Chibi Trunks, perhaps. But Majin Goten? I just don't don't see it. Nope, it's not possible for anyone in the Son Family to go Majin--They have PURE hearts. But try and get a Majin Chibi Trunks- Interesting!!!! AND MAJIN GOTENKS!!!!!!!!!!!! HELL YEAH, GOTENKS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 20, 2004.

I was actually talking about Trunks. H isn't going to be a metro sexual punks ass bitch anymore. He is going to rock almost as much as his father.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 20, 2004.

Your teaching Trunks to what?! You can't do that! Babidi's been dead for a very long time! And what do you expect to unlock in him? Half- Saiya-jin can't surpass SSJ2 and I already taught him that. And he isn't a metrosexual punk ass whatever anyway, that's only GT Trunks and I made sure he wouldn't grow up to turn into that! I don't think the Majin-thing would work anyway, Trunks is too chibi and kawaii to turn evil. And A_G they are my UNOFFICIAL chibi sons! And they are super kawaii with their tails. I had to dabble in a little *ahem, ahem* genetic engineering *cough, cough* to get them to grow back and even managed to get Trunks' to turn purple. So if you cut them off )v (ajin\/egita so help me I will FIND you and show you the depths of Kalltorraiya-jin rage. That was not a threat!

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 20, 2004.


What do you think I have been doing all these years except reading through law books??? I've been researching into the Majin abbility, and can now do it at will, and get other's to go Majin as well. I know he can already go SSJ2, but he would be ALOT stronger when he can go Majin. And I'm also rying to dissprove that theory of half sayians not being able to go beyond SSJ2, while at the same time trying to go SSJ3 myself.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 21, 2004.

In the Christmas story you do go SSJ3, Majin Vegita!!!! And yeah, Chibi Trunks and ESPECIALLY not Chou-Kirei Mirai no Trunks aren't gay, only GT Trunks!!!!!!!! HE CROSSDRESSES FOR CHRIST SAKES!!!!!!!!! But how about they can only go Majin if they fuse? They can ALREADY go SSJ3, AND Gotenks has a more suitable personality to be Majin. Majin Chibi's are wrong. Whenever there is terror that two Chibi's cannot face they will go SSJ3 Majin Gotenks, 'kay? Consider it--I think that's the perfect way for you both to be happy.

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 21, 2004.

I can already go SSJ3??? I didn't know that.

**goes SSJ3**

Wow, would you look at that!!!

Anyway, I woul;d rather like it for Trunks to go Majin as an individual. And now that I can already go SSJ3, I can move onto disproving the theory that only full blooded sayins can go past SSJ2.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 21, 2004.


Go ahead, I'm sure he would rather play with Goten than turn Majin but you could force him to do it. And what if you made Goten and Trunks go Majin individually and then have them fuse. And then make Gotenks go Majin again and finally expose him to a full moon (tails are back) and see if he goes Oozaru. Super-Saiya-jin-3-Double-Majin- Oozaru-Gotenks! Now there's something to be afraid of! -Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 21, 2004.

But I really don't think 1/2 or less blood Saiyajin can go past SSJ2. And plus--Logically speaking through knowledge of DBZ, Chibi Trunks could not become a Majin. He may have Vegeta's blood and be a bit of a brat, but I don't think he has any evil in his heart. But SSJ3 Majin Gotenks would kick ass!!!!!!!!! If I counted DBGT as existing, SSJ4 Majin Gotenks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...But they ain't Chibi in GT, so how about the still Chibi Gotenks but pretend he can go SSJ4? What the Hell am I talking about?

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 22, 2004.

Thanx Yonk, you just gave me an idea. And SG2, I said I'm busy on disproving that theory, and getting Trunks to go Majin is just the thing that will help me out. And the part about Trunks having absolutely no evil in his heart, well, I'm working on it. I'm not teaching him to be evil, though, but I am teaching him to use the power that comes with it.

-- )v(ain\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 22, 2004.

I still don't think it will work. Trunks is too carefree and happy and cute (don't know if being cute matters but I had to say it!) to be evil. I don't even think that Vegeta was evil when he was a Chibi. *Thinks to some clips from Bardock of Chibi-Vegeta killing people and blowing up stuff* Well maybe he was already that evil, but it won't work with Trunks because he was around me too long and if there was any evil in him I got it out! And I still think only Full-Saiya-jin can go furthur than SSJ2.

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 22, 2004.


I'm trying to disprove all of those theories at the moment. Please give me a little more time.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 22, 2004.

The only way to disprove it is to either ask Toriyama Sensei Himself or a member of the Toei Animation staff. Write a letter to Akira Toriyama and see if he answers you within the next 30 years!

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), January 30, 2004.

Why don't we assume that it can't be done except in FanFiction.

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibis), January 30, 2004.


SG2, I said give me more time. What gives you the idea I didnt write to him???

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), January 31, 2004.

Well you may have written him, but Toriyama-Sensei is a very busy man and the odds that he read and will respond to you are EXTREMELY slim to none.

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), February 12, 2004.

IT doesnt matter. If Vegita can go SSJ3 in you're doujinshi, Trunks can go SSJ3 in my dream/reality.

-- )v(ajin\/egita (Info@smserve.co.za), February 12, 2004.

Only full blooded Saiyajins have tails... half human / saiyajins dont... I thought that was pretty clear.

-- Access (Me@here.com), February 24, 2004.

Well, once again Gohan makes that theory completly wrong. He had a tail, but no other part Saiya-jin do, how strange.

-Yonk

-- Yonk (TrunksandGoten@ChibisareKawaii.chibs), February 24, 2004.


No, I think that everyone with Saiyajin blodd gets a tail, and that the others (Mirai no Trunks, the Chibi's, Pan, etc.) just had them removed at birth, probably because it was a weakness...Or again, because Toriyama-Sensei forgot!! I think the reason Gohan was given the tail was to show his relation to Gokou before it is actually stated that he's his son (But then again, this wouldn't make sense in the Manga because Gokou almost instantly introduces him as his son after we see he has a tail, but in the Anime there's that whole scene where Gohan's on da cliff and Gokou saves him...)

Well whatever!! The tails are Chou-Kawaii and shouldn't have been removed and that's all there is to it!!

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), February 25, 2004.


t41ls 4r3 t3h pwn4g3 tbh!!!!!!!!!1

-- X pent (pentex_1@msn.com), May 18, 2004.

Booga!!!!!!

Ooga read the thread of IMPORTANT PLZ READ PART 2 cuz I have a message for you.

And now that this is back in the recent answers, let's get more commentary people!!!!!!!!

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), May 19, 2004.


do you guys count the DBZ movies as being true? cos some of you said you think that trunks and goten etc werent born with tails but in movie 10 it shows you them when they were babys and they had tails then.

-- Pentex (pentex_1@msn.com), May 21, 2004.

Nah. The movies just don't make any sense whatsoever (with the exception of maybe Movie #9, which is my 2nd favorite). That's a good point though ,but also a reason why movies don't make sense-Why the Hell would they have 'em in the movie but not the series? I know they were babies, but Baby Trunks was in enough scenes of the Cell Saga and even got his diaper changed...And he had NO tail...I really think that by that point Toriyama-Sensei had forgotten about the tail!!

-- Suupaa Gohan 2 (dragonballz@aol.com), May 28, 2004.

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