I listened to an interview with this priest last night, 1-15-04. He claims to be a "traditional" Roman Catholic priest, not novus ordo, but in communion with the Vatican, says his group was examined by Cardinal Ratzinger and checked out. He also claims to be recognised by the Vatican as a mystic. He's very apocolyptic; we're in the end days. He believes that God punishes us with natural disasters when bad laws are passed, i.e. pro-abortion, same sex unions, etc. Prophesizes that in the next few years the presidents of Germany and France will be assasinated and that shortly after, a U.S. battle ship will be sunk by our own Government to sway public opinion toward a military action. This will be happening around the time Italy breaks out into a civil war and that Florida will be militarily attacked and there will be great loss of life. Drought and beetles in the mid west will ruin crops, earth quake in Kansas because of a group he wouldn't name that God disapproves of. He also warns about this shadey character called Maitreya who he calls the Anti-Christ and about his influence on the United Nations. Also ... don't go to his (Maitreya's) website as it is dangerous.

This just doesn't sound like any Catholic clergyman that could be recognised by the Vatican. Anybody ever heard of him? He sounded more like a funamentalist TV preacher, but was not looking for money or donations.

He believes all prayer is good Catholic, Protestant, Budhist etc. And we (Cathlics) should all be saying the Rosary more often His website is www.trumpetersmission.com The last part's OK, but I kept getting the feeling he was unbalanced.

-- Jim Furst (furst@flash.net), January 16, 2004

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I wonder if the program you saw was taped or was it recent? On this priest's website his most recent "vision" dates back to 2001.

-- John Miskell (romanrite@aol.com), January 16, 2004.

It was on live last night on a radio show called Coast to Coast. Its on from 1am to 5 am.(www.coasttocoastam.com) People called in to talk with him. He was saying these things would happen in the next few years. He said maybe 3 - 4 years.

-- Jim Furst (furst@flash.net), January 16, 2004.

Father Andrew Wingate is the founder of the "Oblates of St. Therese" which is part of the North American Old Roman Catholic Church (Utrecht Succession.) He is not a Catholic priest.

In Christ,
Bill

-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45@Hotmail.com), January 16, 2004.

Hi Bill,

Its interesting because a lady called in and told him that he definitely was not a Catholic priest. She called him a schizmatic. He claims that some kind of exception was made in his case, and that he is a priest, and not a schizmatic. He was apparently married at one time. He can say Mass and says he's in full communion with the Vatican.

He says John Pauls health will improve this year.

-- Jim Furst (furst @flash.net), January 16, 2004.

Jim, See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2003/01/08.html

-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45@hotmail.com), January 16, 2004.

Bill,

Thanks for the link. I can't think of any horrible disasters that occured in April or May of 93. Unless there was an earth quake somewhere else in the world. They aren't that uncommon. I have no clue about his "accuracy credentials," only doubts. I was born a skeptic. Despite what he says, I rather hope he's not a Catholic priest. He did seem sincere but some of his stories were way out there. (God broke his back, and then healed it to teach him a lesson)

-- Jim Furst (furst@flash.net), January 16, 2004.

Jim, I really don't know anything about him. But I do know Ratzinger and I doubt very seriously that he would endorse this guy.

In Christ, Bill

-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45@hotmail.com), January 16, 2004.

I noticed on Fr. Wingate's website that he cites Fr. Gobbi, seamingly to add credibility to himself. However back in 1994 the same Fr. Gobbi said that Christ would return to the earth for "all to see" in 2000. When a prophet makes a prophecy that turns out to be wrong then he is usually called a "false prophet." I think your suspicion of Fr. Wingate is wise.

-- John Miskell (RomanRite@aol.com), January 16, 2004.

1)Bella Dodd's predictions have not come true.

2)Our current pope is an anti-communist if there ever was one.

3)Andrew Wingate is not currently married, although he was married once before he became a 'priest' in whatever chruch he is in (he is not a Catholic). 4)The Vatican has come out against freemasonry over and over again. It is absurd to say there are freemasons in the Vatican. The Vatican has stated that any Catholic who joins the masons is excommunicated.

-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45@hotmail.com), January 22, 2004.

To explain the finality and completeness of Revelation, the Catechism of the Catholic Church quotes a text of Saint John of the Cross: ?In giving us his Son, his only Word (for he possesses no other), he spoke everything to us at once in this sole Word?and he has no more to say... because what he spoke before to the prophets in parts, he has now spoken all at once by giving us the All Who is His Son. Any person questioning God or desiring some vision or revelation would be guilty not only of foolish behaviour but also of offending him, by not fixing his eyes entirely upon Christ and by living with the desire for some other novelty? (No. 65; Saint John of the Cross,The Ascent of Mount Carmel, II, 22).

-- james vargo (vargojames@cs.com), January 23, 2004.

I heard his interview on coast2coast too. I don't think Father Wingate is a Catholic priest. We will never know that exact day or hour of the end times.

-- John (jjgigem@aol.com), January 25, 2004.

Dear Mr.Miskill

You cited how Fr. Gobbi said that Christ would return in the year 2000. I assume you haven't read the report that Fr. Gobbi's message was unscrupulously translated erronously by some who wished to crush him. His message was meant to say that 'after the Year 2000' things would take a turn for the worst NOT 'in the year 2000'.

-- Andrew (andyhbk96@hotmail.com), January 26, 2004.

stop listning with your ears, and listen with your heart and you will know the truth

-- J C (deputydawg74158@earthlink.net), February 04, 2004.

I dont know if Mr. Wingate is a Catholic priest but we are all brothers in Christ and I will say only one thing on the subject,I feel sorry for any person that does not believe in our Blessed Mothers messages in the last 100yrs from La Salette to Fatima to Mejugore stating over and over again that we are rapidly apporaching those days fortold by numerous saints.But I guess Jesus said it best when he said those days will be like in the time of Noah,the people were going about their business right up to the moment that the flood waters came and destroyed them all. Come Lord Jesus come in Glory

-- vince arce (ihadavision@hotmail.com), February 16, 2004.

As Archbishop of the Old Roman Catholic Church, Latin Rite, I must say that I know of Father Andrew Wingate, who is a Priest in the jurisdiction of Bishop Joseph Vellone, of California. While the Orders of Father Wingate may be of a valid line I would not recognize any of the strange things which he alleges, St. Michael the Archangel bringing Incense from Heaven, in a tin container. Then,you have the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, Mary, taking Fr. Wingate to Purgatory, plucking him out, and then returning him once again. One must not take this silliness too seriously; and I would like to make it clear once and for all, the Oblates of St. Theresa, Reformed, is not a recognized Order within the Old Roman Catholic Church; and it appears to me to be rather like a cult. The "Oblates" consist of a few people, Wingate, and two or three of his associates, as well as one fellow up here in Canada. This strange conduct is not typical of anything I have ever heard of in the Old Roman Catholic Church; and I have been a member since 1968. Need I say more?

In Christo Jesu et Maria Immaculata,

Archbishop Boniface Grosvold, London. The Old Roman Catholic Church, Latin Rite, Archdiocese of Canada.

-- Archbishop Boniface Grosvold (bonifacegrosvold711@hotmail.com), March 28, 2004.

With all due respect, "Archbishop" - members of openly schismatic sects are not on sufficiently solid ground to be offering opinions regarding the orthodoxy or heterodoxy of anyone else. I belong to the OLD Roman Catholic Church - the one founded in 33 A.D. by Jesus Christ, on the Apostles under the headship of Peter, Bishop of Rome. Your NEW "catholic" "church" has no more authority to make judgments concerning Catholicism than any of the thousands of other unauthorized denominational traditions spawned over the past few hundred years.

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), March 28, 2004.