Once Saved, Always Saved? (Refuting the Protestant Position)

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Once Saved, Always Saved, IF we abide in Christ

All Bible verses are in KJV

Hebrews 10
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

2 Peter 2
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

2 Peter 2
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

2 Peter 3
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

Hebrews 3
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

1 Corinthians 9
27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

1 John 2
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 2
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

1 Corinthians 15
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

Colossians 1
21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

Hebrews 2
1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.
2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;

Hebrews 3
6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

2 Peter 1
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


-- Emily (jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), April 25, 2004

Answers

For more, check out this site: "Once Saved, Always Saved?"

-- Emily (jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), April 25, 2004.

Careful emily...Not all Protestnats hodl to Once Saved alway Saved, this is more a Baptist thing. Some others have it, but the overwhelming majority of Protestnats do nto beleive this.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), April 25, 2004.

Thanks Zarove. I know that many don't hold it it, but it is one among many of the Protestants teachings. I guess it's good to clarify though, that some do not believe it.

Thanks and God bless,

-- Emily (jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), April 25, 2004.


I don't know, Zarove, the only denominations I know of that don't hold to it are Assembly of God/Pentecostal and Wesleyan/Nazarene. Presbyterians certainly do hold to it. Word of Faith certainly holds to it as well. But your point is well taken . . . it is hard to hold Protestants, generally speaking, to any mutually-held doctrines.

Good work, Emily. I have copied it to my hard drive.

Gail

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), April 25, 2004.


When I was a teen, I had a friend who interpreted "once saved, always saved" as "do whatever you like after you are saved". Both of his grandfathers were preachers, too. The weird thing is, he used to dog me because as a Catholic, I could do whatever I wanted, then just go to confession. He never really got it that his view of "once saved always saved" was the same as his misguided view of confession.

-- Mark Advent (adventm5477@earthlink.net), April 25, 2004.


Actually its a Misguided "Once saved" notion. Those that DO Hold this Doctorine hold it based o teh idea that once you are saved, the Holyh Spirit will PREVENT you form doign anythign too bad. ( Again, I dotn agree withhtis Doctorine, just to represent it.)

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), April 25, 2004.

Dig city.

-- Mark Advent (adventm5477@earthlink.net), April 25, 2004.

zarove,

chill out on emily, she never asserted that the belief "once saved, always saved" was a protestant-wide belief... merely that it was a protestant belief.

thats one of the MANY flaws of protestantism. you all can't agree on ANYTHING. how can you be one unified body of Christ if you cant even be a unified body? sigh, i pray for the protestants to come back to the church.

zarove, you should go to mass sometime. go for several times and read the catechism. you'll develope a great understanding and, who knows, you might even decide to make the switch.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), April 26, 2004.


I seriously wonder why Zarove isn't Catholic. I've learned so much just reading what he has to say on this board...but what keeps him from the Church?!

-- Jacob (jacobrainey@hotmail.com), April 26, 2004.

Every now and then folks get on Zarove's case about converting. I want to address this. Although I have a great deal of respect for Zarove and would love to see him convert that is not the issue. There is only one reason to convert to Catholicism, and it is the same reason anybody should convert to any religion: YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS TRUE. Until the time Zarove can say that he truly believes that what the Catholic Church teaches is true then he should not convert. And only Zarove can tell us when that time is. There may be some issues that he still has to work out, which may be why he comes here. Let's pray for him and give him some space, while answering any questions he brings, but let's not badger him.

Just my bloated opinion

Dano

-- Dan Garon (boethius61@yahoo.com), April 26, 2004.



that, dan, is why i didnt tell zarove to convert now, rather than to go to mass several times, read the catechism, and see how it looks to him.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), April 26, 2004.

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