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Pro-Abortion Catholics Versus Church, Communion Battle Continuesby Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
May 2, 2004Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The battle between Catholics politicians who support abortion and the pro-life Catholic Church continues. A New Jersey bishop says his state's pro-abortion governor is not entitled to communion, an Indiana Catholic school has rescinded an invitation for that state's pro-abortion governor to speak, and the Democratic leader in the U.S. House says she will continue taking the sacrament despite her pro-abortion views.
Last week, Most Rev. Joseph Galante, the incoming leader of the Diocese of Camden, New Jersey, said Governor Jim McGreevey can't receive communion. Galante cited McGreevey's position in favor of abortion as one of the reasons.
Galante said he felt obligated to arrive at his position because the public becomes confused when the Catholic Church doesn't hold Catholic politicians accountable for their records.
"I'd give him a blessing (instead)," Galante told reporters about what would happen if McGreevey presented himself at his church. In his case, he can't go to communion."
Galante's comments come just weeks after Trenton Bishop John Smith declared that McGreevey was "not a devout Catholic" because of his political record, which includes a push for millions of dollars to fund an embryonic stem cell research initiative that would involve the destruction of human embryos. The Catholic Church opposes such research because it destroys human lives.
-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45-nospam@hotmail.com), May 03, 2004
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-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45-nospam@hotmail.com), May 03, 2004.
John Kerry is meeting today with Cardinal Mahoney "to learn how to defend Kerry against conservative attacks and appeal to Catholic voters better." He's met with Cardinal McCarrick, and now Cardinal Mahoney. Any chance he'll be meeting with Archbishop Burke, or Archbishop Galante next? Ummmmm No! Kerry to Meet with Mahoney
-- Brian Crane (brian.crane@cranemills.com), May 06, 2004.
Anybody else find it just tacky that these politicians put the Church in this position in the first place? I do.
-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), May 06, 2004.
what i find tacky is that Mr. Kerry is not going to meet with the bishops or cardinals to enquire as to how to reunite with the catholic church so that he may validly recieve communion, but rather is interested in how to court the catholic vote. theres more at stake in life than an election, when will politicians realize this?
-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), May 06, 2004.
Bishop Aguila of the Fargo (North Dakota, USA) diocese warns of the possibility of hell for anyone who tries to separate their professional or social activities (ie. supporting abortion) from their faith life (ie. receiving communion). Read the article here
-- Brian Crane (brian.crane@cranemills.com), May 10, 2004.
"Arlen is with us on the votes that matter to move our agenda forward for this President and for the country. I am proud to endorse Arlen Specter." --Senator Rick SantorumIs Rick Everywhichway Santorum receiving the sacred host these days, or just a blessing?
-- Curious (???@???.???), May 10, 2004.
Okay, I guess I'll just have to ask this.Are people supposed to make judgements about those who go or do not go to Communion? Would we be even talking about this if these politicians attended Mass but did not go up to receive Communion?
Just because someone is in the Communion line doesn't mean that they are automatically good people, and the same could be said of people who do not go up for Communion, it doesn't automatically mean that they are all bad people.
-- GT (nospam@nospam.com), May 10, 2004.
Two things: one, Santorum agreed to support Specter way back when Tommey's candidacy looked doubtful - when it looked very likely that he'd lose by a huge margin. I don't agree with this, but it seemed the "prudent" thing to support the likely winning candidate who you also happen to work with on a daily basis and don't want to needlessly anger. Of course Tomey's candidacy took off later and he lost by just 15,000 votes...Secondly, St Paul is very clear that receiving communion in the state of sin is a spiritually deadly thing to do...thus it's not charitable for any priest to offer communion with the Lord's body to someone who simply doesn't believe or doesn't in fact accept communion with the Lord! It's not an "atta-boy" award or symbol! If you are objectively NOT IN COMMUNION why go up to receive communion???
And I know, I know people just don't seem capable of seeing the difference...but the decision to go to war is a prudential one - it all depends on a host of factors...but the decision to kill a totally innocent, defenseless human child is NOT EVER a prudential decision but always and everywhere an immoral one...thus, a politician or other lay Catholic who thinks or believes that abortion is OK (or Slavery is OK or Fornication is OK) is by virute of this CATEGORICALLY EVIL "choice" in a state of mortal sin.
Thus it's not something two otherwise good Catholics can agree to disagree on...it's something that automatically makes one of them evil by agreeing with, or supporting, or participating actively in evil...and it's hard to see how anyone can be MORE INVOLVED in such an evil - except the abortionist himself - than a politician who always votes to spend more money supporting, expanding, and entrenching abortion as the super-right enforced by the federal government on all Americans and indeed all human beings.
This is why Catholics who argue over rites of the mass are really not discussing categorical doctrine - we dispute over matters of taste or pastoral sensitivity etc.... but Catholics who argue about abortion...really are on opposite teams.
-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.
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-- curious's fault (nomorebold@turnitoff.com), May 11, 2004.