Bush will visit Pope in June- top issue is Iraq

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Informed sources in Rome said the president will visit on June 4th and that Iraq and the Middle East would be at the top of the discussion agenda. It will be the third meeting between the two leaders, and the first since the start of the Iraq war, which was strongly opposed by the pope and his aides.

-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45-nospam@hotmail.com), May 10, 2004

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-- Bill Nelson (bnelson45-nospam@hotmail.com), May 10, 2004.

This is the meeting where the pope will cave. He will admit Bush was right all along and, sobbing, he will beg Bush to forgive him for ever doubting. He will then break with precedent and command American Catholics, under pain of mortal sin, to vote straight republican this year.

Damn----the alarm just went off!

-- Sleepy (dreamcatcher@big.ben), May 10, 2004.


Well one thing is certain: voting for Kerry would be a mortal sin, considering his support for "abortion on demand for any reason including whim", his support for gay's "right to do anything they want including redefine major institutions on demand", and his support for feminists' "right to be contradictory, annull all laws of physics and logic while simultaneously demanding such laws still apply to their opponents".

Voting a (socialist)democrat into office would mean bring in 10,000 totally immoral people to DC, none of whom care one whit about Catholicism. At least with Bush some administration and political appointees aren't carbon copies and can think for themselves.

When has the Democratic party respected DEMOCRACY? Every great social cause they've favored in the last 40 years has come to take effect not through CONGRESS or LAW but through the courts re-defining of past law! Spending zillions of dollars hasn't "won" the "war on poverty". It has made millions of people MORE POOR by undermining their morality. But, then being in the hip pocket of the big businesses who fund their think-tanks, DEMOCRATS don't care about solving poverty as much as they do TALKING ABOUT POVERTY.

-- joe (joestong@yahoo.com), May 10, 2004.


and his support for feminists' "right to be contradictory,

Right on Joe! Uppity Women. Don't get me going!!!

10,000 totally immoral people to DC, none of whom care one whit about Catholicism.

True, but it would get rid of the 10,000 totally immoral people who are CURRENTLY in DC, none of whom care one whit about Catholicism. Numerically speaking, it would be a wash.

-- Rex (nospamplease@email.net), May 10, 2004.


Dear Rex:
Presumed then, you'll vote for Kerry. Kerry is the nominal Catholic in this election. One who disregarded and defied his own bishop. One who has spoken forcefully in favor of every kind of abortion and immoral cohabitation. One who publishes his obscene remarks in Rolling Stone; and wears $240 shirts while pretending to be for the little guy.

He has been brazenly taking Holy Communion at a Catholic (? ? ?) Church in his area, despite the sure knowledge he's in mortal sin. He remarried without any known annulment of his first sacramental marriage to another Catholic.

And he promises to raise our taxes as soon as he's President.

HEY! We really need this Catholic candidate! America needs religion!

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), May 11, 2004.



You know I often wonder why many people get upset about "capital punishment" and "war" which affects at the most a couple thousand, mostly bad MEN per year...but don't bat an eye about ABORTION which affects 1.5 MILLION totally innocent human beings each year.

Could this be a case of swallowing the moral camel while straining the gnat? Getting all worried about the fate of adults who have plenty of time to repent or surrender but don't while not caring one whit for children who aren't even given the CHANCE to live?

Finally, REX, you're wrong. I'd guess that about half of the Bush administration are Reagan Republicans, the other half are Rockefeller Republicans... thus it's not a wash. 5,000 good people in DC are better than none at all.

I was at the first inaugural National Catholic Prayer Breakfast this past week - 1,000 Catholics along with Cardinal Dulles and many others - who are in the administration. Loud applause for pro-Life issues and pro-family causes. I know many of them - salt of the earth people active in their own parishes, local communities, and government.

Kerry's bunch (which means Clinton's bunch) are active too: in NARAL, Planned Parenthood, GLADD, and a host of other wacko-Left (socialist) causes that are all about heavy-handed Government intrusion and expasion, legislating morality and enforcing it via courts and police...they claim Ashcroft is the Gestapo...but they're the ones who are calling for the outlawing of any political opposition, free speech (that doesn't have anything to do with sex), and the censorship of opposing views by calling it "hate speech".

-- Joe (joestong@yahoo.com), May 11, 2004.


Rodrigo,

This is adult time now, come back after your nap. --------------------------------------------------------

Interesting article today by Michael Novak, about Bush and Pope John Paul II here

An excerpt: To be sure, there are many in Europe (and even in the Vatican) who do not think Muslim "culture" is up to the standard required for "Western" style government and "Western" style rights. But both Karol Wojtyla (Pope John Paul II) and George W. Bush come not from Paris or Berlin or Brussels or other glittering capitals, but from small inland cities with rather more humble and plainspoken populations. Like Agatha Christie, they see into the human heart on the small village scale, and know all its complexities and possibilities from daily experience rather than from the chattering classes. They see that every human being, without exception, has been endowed by the Creator with certain inalienable hungers for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness — and the right to exercise these inner energies.

-- Brian Crane (brian.crane@cranemills.com), May 18, 2004.


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