Epoxy Etc instead of babbit

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Code allows for the use of an epoxy (I'm pretty sure it was epoxy, but could be some other sort of plastic material) instead of babbit when shackling ropes. Anyone ever used any of this? Seems like the way to go instead of heating up babbit to shorten a couple of ropes..

Thank Dan

-- Dan (justsomeguylookin2@hotmail.com), July 12, 2004


There is an approved resin that you must use and you still need to turn back Instead if possible use wedge clamp shackes on one end or both. Look in your source book from EW Jim

-- Jim (www.elevator555@hotmail.com), July 12, 2004.

Thanks Jim.

-- Dan (justsomeguylookin2@hotmail.com), July 13, 2004.

Definitly the way to go is wedge clamp shackles. There is a little more cost involved but they pay for themselves with labor on installation and future shortening.


-- (elvtech@hotmail.com), July 13, 2004.

There isn't enough rope to change to wedgeclamp shackles in this case. The ropes have to be shortened about 9" there won't be enough rope to make em work. Ordinarily I would do the exact same thing.

If anyone knows where to get the resin, please let me know.

Thanks Dan

-- Dan (justsomeguylookin2@hotmail.com), July 13, 2004.

used this stuff over 20 years ago in the UK top tip is to use a fan on the car top as the fumes were terrible!! that may be the reason why it has never replaced the liquid metal

-- geoff judge (geoff.judge@bchtgroup.org), July 14, 2004.

Used resin about 15 years ago. Didn't do the job ourselves just set the lift up for British ropes to do, because we didn't have the gear. This was done on a 30ton capacity lift. The funny thing is they didn't turn back the ends. The strands were seperated and then the wires. The ends were then cleaned before the resin was poured. Try British Ropes for some Info, but I muust agree with others the way to go is wedges. mole..........

-- mole (moleelevators@yahoo.com), July 18, 2004.

If you have to shorten you cables by 9 inches, you might be able to use wedgeclamps that are slightly longer than the origional shakels. You can get shakels in a varitay of lengths from Nylube, or some other supplier. Wedgeclamps are the way to go.

-- Mike Lardner (mlardner@lardnerelevator.com), July 22, 2004.

Sorry for not continuing the thread a while back, I've been really busy.

Our reason for wanting to use epoxy was because of the danger of starting a fire in a very old hatch. In the end we wound up using babbit anyway.

I did find (and order) the epoxy from Euality Elevator. The stuff is called "SocketFast". It's on hand in case we ever need it. It cost about $45.00 for a can that sounds like it'll do about one set of ropes.

The instructions do say that you are to "fan" out the wires and evenly distribute them so that the epoxy fills all the gaps. And the fumes ARE evidently a big problem.

Thanks for all the help and answers


-- Dan (justsomeguylookin2@hotmail.com), August 26, 2004.

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