July 21 -- today's saints and blesseds

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Jmj

On July 21, we members of the Catholic Church family honor, in a special way, the following friends of God -- "saints" and "blesseds" whose souls are now in heaven:

St. Lawrence de’ Rossi of Brindisi [Lorenzo] [baptized Giulio Cesare (Julius Cæsar)] (Italian, Capuchin Master General, theologian, linguist, military chaplain, writer of catechism, diplomat, Doctor of the Church, died in Portugal the day before his 60th birthday in 1619 [beatified 1783, canonized 1881])

St. Arbogast of Aquitaine (French? hermit, bishop of Strasbourg, c. 678)
Sts. Claudius, Justus, Jucundinus, and five companions, of Troyes (French, martyred in 273)
St. Constantine of Monte Cassino (Italian, Benedictine abbot [succeeded St. Benedict], c. 560)
St. Daniel (Israelite, Old Testament prophet, died in Babylon in 5th century B.C.)
Bl. Francis de Montmorency Laval of Montigny-sur-Avre [François] (French, missionary priest in Vietnam, hermit in France, bishop in Canada, died at age 85 in 1708 [beatified 1980])
St. John of Edessa (Syrian, monk, 6th century)
Sts. John and Benignus of Moyenmoutier (French, twin brothers, monks, c. 707)
St. Julia of Troyes (French, virgin, martyred c. 273)
Bl. Oddino Barrotti of Fossano (Italian, Franciscan tertiary, parish priest, died at about age 76 in 1400 [beatified 1808])
St. Praxedes of Rome (Italian, virgin, 2nd century)
Sts. Victor, Alexander, Felician, and Longinus, of Marseilles (military officer and guards, tortured and martyred by beheading in 304)
St. Wastrada of Utrecht (Dutch, widow, c. 670)
St. Zoticus of Comana (Cappadocian [from part of what is now Turkey], bishop, opposed Montanist heresy, martyred in 204)

If you have anything to share about these holy people, please reply now -- biographical episodes, prayers through their intercession, the fact that one is your patron -- whatever moves you. If you are interested in one of these saints or blesseds and want to find out more about him/her, please ask. Additional information is sometimes available on the Internet.

All you holy men and women, saints of God, pray for us.
God bless you.
John

-- J. F. Gecik ("jfgecik@hotmail.com), July 21, 2004

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-- ("jfgecik@hotmail.com), July 21, 2004.

Is that the same Constantine responsible for comprising the Bible?

-- Andrew m Tillcock (drewmeister7@earthlink.net), July 21, 2004.

Gecik,

I received to re: e-mails from you today. I don't think they were from you. I deleted them. I have not sent you anything since the Pope paper.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 21, 2004.


Andrew, I've never heard of a person "comprising" something, so I don't know what you mean. However, I can tell you that the lists (canons) of Bible books were fixed long before St. Constantine of Monte Cassino was born.

Gonzalez, you were right to delete that junk mail, which I did not send. One way for you to avoid getting that kind of stuff is not to post messages at a forum where you ought not to be interfering (since you are an ex-Catholic, non-Christian proselytizer.)

God bless you.
John

-- ("jfgecik@hotmail.com), July 22, 2004.


I'm sorry JFG, wasn't Constantine one of those present at the council of Nicea when they took the already written books and made them into what we now know as the bible.

I guess i worded my question a bit goofy sorry

Peace be with you...........

-- Andrew m Tillcock (drewmeister7@earthlink.net), July 22, 2004.



Jmj

No, Andrew.

(1) Constantine the Great was a Roman emperor -- and he did not even become a Catholic until he was near death in A.D. 337. He took sole rule of the empire after 320 and was very unhappy about the fact that it was troubled by a conflict over the Arian heresy. Though himself a pagan, he wanted all the bishops who considered themselves Christians to meet and solve the problem. This desire resulted in the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325. The "Catholic Encyclopedia" states: "It is not historically known whether the emperor in convoking the Council acted solely in his own name or in concert with the pope; however, it is probable that Constantine and Sylvester came to an agreement."

(2) Present at the Council of Nicea (A.D. 325) were the bishops of the Catholic Church. The emperor Constantine did not attend -- or, even if he ever visited, he had no right to interfere in the theological deliberations.

(3) But the Council of Nicea did not proclaim the lists (canons) of the Old and New Testaments anyway, Andrew. That happened later in the Fourth Century.

God bless you.
John

-- ("jfgecik@hotmail.com), July 23, 2004.


Constantine helped in creating Catholic Orthodoxy, even the Nicene Creed.... but he did not die a Catholic.

He was baptized by Eusebius, a semi-Arian. His childrem were Arians.

The Christian Yahwist

The man of Yahweh

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), July 23, 2004.


Moderator, please delete this message and the preceding one by Elpidio Gonzalez, who is befouling a saints/blesseds thread with his proselytizing. He should have been banned from the forum two years ago, since he is an ex-Catholic ... an Arian (non-Christian) ... who constantly seeks to lead Catholics into heretical misery along with him. This forum is not truly "Catholic" if it cannot ban such an evil-doer as E. Gonzalez.

Besides interfering on this thread, he feeds errors to readers. He says that "Constantine ... did not die a Catholic." That is false. Constantine became very ill and was baptized on his death- bed. There is only one Baptism -- Catholic Baptism -- and that is what the emperor received. It does not matter if was baptized by even a Hindu. It is still the Catholic sacrament of Baptism. Besides being totally irrelevant, Gonzalez's statement that Constantine's "children were Arians" is incorrect, since not all of them were. Gonzalez lies in calling himself a "Christian Yahwist," since he rejects the divinity of Jesus and is therefore not a Christian. He is simply an Arian heretic who is currently headed for hell (unless he is so stupid or mentally ill that he has become invincibly ignorant).

God bless you.
John

-- ("jfgecik@hotmail.com), July 24, 2004.


Being baptized, even by a heretic, makes you a member of the Church. It doesn't make you a heretic. That decision must be made personally, later in life. Also, the decisions of faith of the children is completely irrelevant to the decisions of faith of the parent.

-- Paul M. (PaulCyp@cox.net), July 24, 2004.

JFG,Paul,Thank's guy's for providing me with the answers on that topic. The more knowledge i collect the stonger my Catholic faith grows. Thank's again...

-- Andrew m Tillcock (drewmeister7@earthlink.net), July 25, 2004.


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