Was Jesus just a man who died to redeem us from our sin?? God says no man can do this:

Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, both low and high, rich and poor alike:

My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the utterance from my heart will give understanding. I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle:

Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me- those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches?

No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him- the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough- that he should live on forever and not see decay.

For all can see that wise men die; the foolish and the senseless alike perish and leave their wealth to others. Their tombs will remain their houses forever, their dwellings for endless generations, though they had named lands after themselves.

But man, despite his riches, does not endure; he is like the beasts that perish.

This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of their followers, who approve their sayings. Selah

Like sheep they are destined for the grave, and death will feed on them. The upright will rule over them in the morning; their forms will decay in the grave, far from their princely mansions.

But God will redeem my life from the grave; he will surely take me to himself. Selah

Do not be overawed when a man grows rich, when the splendor of his house increases; for he will take nothing with him when he dies, his splendor will not descend with him. Though while he lived he counted himself blessed- and men praise you when you prosper- he will join the generation of his fathers, who will never see the light of life .

A man who has riches without understanding is like the beasts that perish.

Psalm 49:1-20

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What is it that we are suppose to understand?

Jesus said of His body, "Destroy this Temple, and I will raise it again in three days" (John 2:19,21).

Our ressurected Lord assured doubting Thomas by asking him to examine His hands for the nail prints and to touch His side where He was wounded. "Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself! Touch Me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have" (Luke 24:39). He ate food (verse 43). (I also note: Doesn't the Bible say that God raised Jesus from the dead?) Jesus said of His body, "Destroy this Temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

"I lay down My life--only to take it up again...I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again" (John 10:17-18)

This begs the question...Did God give this authority to another being, even though God said He would never give His authority to another? Is Jesus just a man?

Asked by ("faith01@myway.com") on September 14, 2004.

-- ("faith01@myway.com"), September 15, 2004

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Was Jesus just a man who died to redeem us from our sin??

God says no man can do this:

Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who live in this world, both low and high, rich and poor alike:

My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the utterance from my heart will give understanding. I will turn my ear to a proverb; with the harp I will expound my riddle:

Why should I fear when evil days come, when wicked deceivers surround me- those who trust in their wealth and boast of their great riches?

No man can redeem the life of another or give to God a ransom for him- the ransom for a life is costly, no payment is ever enough- that he should live on forever and not see decay.

For all can see that wise men die; the foolish and the senseless alike perish and leave their wealth to others. Their tombs will remain their houses forever, their dwellings for endless generations, though they had named lands after themselves.

But man, despite his riches, does not endure; he is like the beasts that perish.

This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of their followers, who approve their sayings. Selah

Like sheep they are destined for the grave, and death will feed on them. The upright will rule over them in the morning; their forms will decay in the grave, far from their princely mansions.

But God will redeem my life from the grave; he will surely take me to himself. Selah

Do not be overawed when a man grows rich, when the splendor of his house increases; for he will take nothing with him when he dies, his splendor will not descend with him. Though while he lived he counted himself blessed- and men praise you when you prosper- he will join the generation of his fathers, who will never see the light of life .

A man who has riches without understanding is like the beasts that perish.

Psalm 49:1-20

*********************************

What is it that we are suppose to understand?

Jesus said of His body, "Destroy this Temple, and I will raise it again in three days" (John 2:19,21).

Our ressurected Lord assured doubting Thomas by asking him to examine His hands for the nail prints and to touch His side where He was wounded. "Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself! Touch Me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have" (Luke 24:39). He ate food (verse 43). (I also note: Doesn't the Bible say that God raised Jesus from the dead?) Jesus said of His body, "Destroy this Temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

"I lay down My life--only to take it up again...I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again" (John 10:17-18)

This begs the question...Did God give this authority to another being, even though God said He would never give His authority to another? Is Jesus just a man?

-- ("faith01@myway.com"), September 15, 2004.

Son of God/Immanuel/God with us

Matt 1:20-23

But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us."

-- ("faith01@myway.com), September 15, 2004.

I believe that everyone but elpidio will argue with you here.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), September 15, 2004.

restored. You can post now.

-- Assistant Moderator. (egonval@yahoo.com), September 15, 2004.

I could swear that Zarove had responded that everyone but Elpidio would agree with me here>>

Zarove--did you really say that everyone but Elpidio would argue with me about this?

-- ("faith01@myway.com"), September 16, 2004.

I meant agree, I sora typed it in too fast, sorry...

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), September 16, 2004.

Thanks Zarove--but I remember reading it and it saying *agree*- originally. Unless I read it too fast before these threads crashed...

But thanks--I guess I knew what you meant.

-- ("faith01@myway.com"), September 16, 2004.