What causes them? (Oracle, anti-Bush)

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Whatever happened to that weirdo Oracle? I used to like to torment him, and the other scumbag racists like that polesmoker "shutthefuckup" You can tell a lot about a person by the name he chooses. In "shut"'s case, you can almost see the light shining in one ear, and coming out the other.

But he's just another white trash loser, I wanted to say something about a sobject that was worth more than two cents. I recognize the right of this "anti-bush" kid to think and say whatever he wants, I just wish there were SOME way I coul SAVE the boy! He actually BELIEVES that fat, disgusting, human turd Michael Moorelies! Hahahahahahahahahaha! They've wriiten articles, books, and even a FILM about the 59 documented lies in the film. If it weren't for the lawyers on his side, coaching him all the way, HE wouldn't have known how to take the lies, and turn them into "omissions", "out-of context quotes", etc. But the overall effect is, that he is TRYING to make you believe something that isn't TRUE, and he did it FIFTY-NINE TIMES! I wish he would come to MY city, THAT'S something I would buy tickets for. I sneaked in to his movie, 'cause I didn't want him getting any of MY money. I'M not a SUCKER, like all those libs that PAID to see GARBAGE propaganda. If he came to a nearby college, I'd pay, so after he was done I could go up and make him look stupid, by reading all the Democrat's quotes about Saddam's WMD'S, all the libs like Kerry that gave $38 to charity one year, another year $0(Morefood is supposed to be for the homeless and poor.) Then I would ask him how many homeless people he has HOUSED since the MILLIONS he has made, I would ask him about the lib politicians that are close with Saudis, and ask WHY he didn't mention THEM in his movie, or why he didn't make a MOVIE about Ted (the Drunken Swimming Murderer) Kennedy! Oh, I have a lot "moore", too. And when I was DONE, I'd have some rotten eggs & tomatoes for him. What a good time I would have.

Oh, by the way, now that Charles Duelpher's testimony in Senate has shown the lying, crooked, corrupt U.N. was making BILLIONS partnered with Saddam(they would do a GOOD inspection,YEAH!), France(Chirac)& Russia crooked as the day is long, Saddam was wearing down all the libs, waiting for sanctions to be dropped so he could spread mustard and Nerve gas all throughout the terrorist world, in addition to the fact everyone knows he was PAYING HAMMAS $25,000 a head to BLOW UO INNOCENT CIVILIANS, and NOW we find some DISCS on an Iraqi HARD DRIVE(probably Saddams Intelligence Agency), with the FLOORPLANS & BLUEPRINTS for AMERICAN SCHOOLS in SIX STATES! They were all being renovated, or under construction, so they could sneak some fake workmen in, just like Besla, Russia. Do you KNOW what happened in BESLA, "anti-Bush", you little kneejerk twerp? THEY HELD HUNDREDS OF 5 AND 6 YR. OLD CHILDREN HOSTAGE, MADE THEM DRINK URINE INSTEAD OF WATER, STABBED THEM IN THE BACK IF THEY ASKED FOR WATER, THEN IN THE END MACHINE-GUNNED A LOT OF THEM, TRIED TO BLOW UO THE BUILDING TO KILL EVERYONE,BECAUSE IT WAS ALMOST OVER, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY OF THE KIDS TO LIVE. A LOT OF THESE KIDS THAT DID LIVE WERE BURNED 80-90% OF THEIR LITTLE BODIES. THIS IS THE SCUM YOU ARE HELPING WHEN YOU BASH BUSH FOR GOING AFTER TERRORIST SCUM. AND IRAQ, WHICH WAS SO INNOCENT, ACCORDING TO THAT FAT SLOB BAG OF SHIT MICHEL MOORELIES, THE IRAQIS WERE DANCING IN THE STREETS UNTIL MEAN OLD GEORGE BUSH BOMBED THE LITTLE CHILDREN & OLD LADIES. AND LIKE AN ASSHOLE, YOU ACTUALLY PAID MONEY TO GO SEE THAT SHIT. I ALMOST FEEL SORRY FOR YOU, BUT I KNOW WHAT MILLIONS OF WEAK SHEEP LIKE YOU CAN DO TO A COUNTRY, THE DAMAGE YOU CAN CAUSE. AT HOME, AND ESPECIALLY ABROAD, WHEN TERRORIST SCUM LOOKS AT RAGS LIKE NY TIMES AND HEARS PEOPLE LIKE YOU TALK, THEY THROW A PARTY. THEY SAY, "IT WON'Y BE LONG NOW! AS SOON AS ENOUGH AMERICANS TURN WEAK, AND WANT TO TALK INSTEAD OF KILL US, LIKE WE WILL DO TO THEM WITHOUT HESITATION, THEN WE HAVE WON. WE WILL BE ABLE TO ATTACK, FOR THEY WILL BE TOO WEAK TO STOP US."

-- SomeoneWhoCares (ettefruc@yahoo.com), October 08, 2004

Answers

"I recognize the right of this "anti-bush" kid to think and say whatever he wants, I just wish there were SOME way I coul SAVE the boy!"

Thanks for your concern, you condescending dick, but I think I'll be fine.

"He actually BELIEVES that fat, disgusting, human turd Michael Moorelies! Hahahahahahahahahaha!"

You're right. He's a total ass. I should listen to a decent, honest person like, say, Bill O'Reilly. Thanks for saving me.

"They've wriiten articles, books, and even a FILM about the 59 documented lies in the film."

Michael Moore has offered $10,000 for every claim in his movie that could be disproven. Seems to me if these guys didn't have their head comepletely up their asses they'd have made $590,000 by now. Unless they're full of shit.

"But the overall effect is, that he is TRYING to make you believe something that isn't TRUE, and he did it FIFTY-NINE TIMES!"

What exactly were those fifty-nine lies? I want to see all fifty-none of them before this thread continues.

"all the libs like Kerry that gave $38 to charity one year, another year $0"

Where did you hear that?! I'd really like to know where those figures came from.

And by the way, how much did you give to charity in the past year?

"I would ask him about the lib politicians that are close with Saudis, and ask WHY he didn't mention THEM in his movie,"

A) What "lib politicians"?

b) They aren't the ones who are creating our foreign policy and allowing ties with the Sauds to influence it.

"why he didn't make a MOVIE about Ted (the Drunken Swimming Murderer) Kennedy!"

Please. The girl drowned twenty years ago. That's like asking why Michael Moore didn't make a movie about Watergate! It's no longer relevant. Ted Kennedy isn't the leader of the free world, you simple- minded idiot!

"everyone knows he was PAYING HAMMAS $25,000 a head to BLOW UO INNOCENT CIVILIANS,"

Source?

As for Besla, that's a different story entirely. Not only do you have Islamic fundamentalism at work, but you've got the added dimension of a historic conflict between the Russians and the Chechens. Besla was horrible and can never be justified. But don't try to blame it all on Islam. If somebody committed genocide against your people, you'd probably kill some kids too. Russia needs to get the fuck out of Chechnya and they need to do it now. Once that happens, 90% of Chechen terrorism will stop. Chechnya is a breeding ground for militant Islam because they continue to be oppressed. Take away the oppression and you remove an incentive to join al Quaeda.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 08, 2004.


Silly people,

Para bailar la bamba is the way to go.

-- Ricky (mimir@catholic.org), October 10, 2004.


Anti-Bush: You, por, por, misguided boy. I've read enough of your posts on here to know what you're all about, I know I alone can't get you to see things clearly, you've been brainwashed and conditioned for too long, and by too many liberal media sources. I can see just by your response about Besla, where you spout the SAME EXACT LIBERAL LINE I've seen in COUNTLESS liberal "political" websites. Always an excuse ready for Islamic Fundamentalists. You Left-Wing crybabies have learned NOTHING from 3,000 of our people being killed on 9-11, and NOTHING from the deaths of the 1,000 soldiers in Iraq. Always an EXCUSE, always a REASON why TERRORIST SCUM is JUSTIFIED TO KILL INNOPCENT PEOPLE. Yet, when WE try to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY, and PREVENT ANOTHER ATTACK, Leftists, Liberals, Democrats, ALL ATTACK BUSH, and attack the JOB OF OUR SOLDIERS, WHICH IS TO KILL PEOPLE AND BREAK THINGS. We must PREVENT another attack by KILLING these animals OVER THERE, so NO MORE of them can make it HERE. Do you know HOW MANY PLOTS have been foiled, in THIS COUNTRY, and all over the WORLD? As SOON as the news came out about Besla, the SCUMBAGS who call themselves JOURNALISTS at ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NY Times, etc., ALL had an EXCUSE for the INHUMAN SCUM that did it. ANDTHEY WERE PLANNING THE SAME HERE! If they SUCCEEDED, what EXCUSE would you have for THEM, after they MURDERED HUNDREDS OF AMERICAN 5 YR. OLD CHILDREN? I'm sorry, son, I have nothing PERSONAL against you, but just LISTENING to you, and REALIZING how the mainstream media has BRAINWASHED so MANY of you, I FEAR for the future of this country. The fact that the SCUM in the Anchor Chairs at the Networks called the people who murdered those children "INSURGENTS" says it ALL. Do you KNOW what an "insurgent" is? It's a word that has ALWAYS been used to describe groups who were RISING UP, against an EVIL, TOTALITARIAN GOVERNMENT. It's a word that has always been used to describe VALIANT, HONORABLE, and COURAGEOUS FIGHTERS, against the BAD forces that would deny them liberty. For simple people, it is a word used to describe a smaller group of GOOD guys, against a large government of BAD guys. THIS-THIS is the WORD that these "jounalists", who I HONESTLY feel, should be put in PRISON, HANGED, or EXILED, and dropped off at the nearest Al- Qaeda Camp. That 3rd option would be the best. They would not be killed, because they do SO MUCH for our enemies, everyday. They ATTACK our Commander-in-Cheif, during a time of WAR, they DRASTICALLY LOWER MORALE of our Military. I have HEARD these young men and women, when they CALLED IN to talk shows, sometimes from IRAQ, or AFGANISTAN, and talked with the host. I have NEVER, out of the 15-20 times it has happened, I have NEVER heard them say how BAD things are in Iraq, although I am sure they are difficult every day, but THESE KIDS(to ME, they are still kids, but they are brave MEN & WOMEN, in reality)these kids ALWAYS talk about the young children that smile and can NOW go to school, and the bridges, and the buildings, and the water projects, and how the Iraqis that they TALK to are GRATEFUL, in a huge majority, yet the MEDIA SCUM will never tell you ANY of THOSE thing, they just hope some more soldiers DIE today, so they can BLAME their deaths on BUSH. I have just read a book called "Shadow War: How we ARE winning the war on terrorism" I may have the title slightly off, but the man who wrote it, Richard Miniter, spent YEARS talking with Special Forces, and STILL does. I could give you fact after fact, but it would be MUCH better if you READ the book, you HAVE to, if you want to know the TRUTH of what is REALLY going on over there. I'll give you one example. You see how Kerry and Edwards keep saying, in DEBATES and SPEECHES, that "Bush had Osama bin-Laden CORNERED in Tora-Bora, and LET HIM GET AWAY, turned the job over to locals, who were WORKING for bin-Laden. Richard Miniter goes into it in DETAIL. Kerry's "facts"? TOTAL BULLSHIT, and what's WORSE, HE KNOWS IT"S BULLSHIT!! Our forces went up into those mountains in Tora-Bora, some of which rise to 9,000 ft. We were never SURE that he was THERE. We had ONE set of Intelligence that he WAS in Tora-Bora, some where in the HUNDREDS of MILES of caves and SECRET PASSAGES, ENTRANCES and EXITS, and ANOTHER set of Intel that said he was sighted in another location, 200 MILES AWAY. Tora-Bora is not a pinpoint on a map it covers hundreds of sqare miles of mountains and caves. Many times, our guys would be carefully walking along, when OUT would pop an Al- Qaeda member from a hidden cave exit. Some of our guys got KILLED like that, but USUALLY, WE got THEM. WHY? Because we used the LOCALS! We killed and CAPTURED MANY Al-Qaeda in Tora-Bora, and our Special Forces said "We wouldn't have gotten NEARLY as many if it wasn't for the LOCALS, the guys WHO KNEW THE CAVES! The RUSSIANS ALSO fought at Tora-Bora. They DIDN'T use locals. They used MASSIVE amounts of RUSSIAN troops ONLY, and Helicopters, etc. THAT'S the way KERRY says now WE should have done it. The Russians LOST. But KERRY KNOWS THAT. He ALSO knew about the TWO SETS of INTEL about BIN-LADEN'S LOCATION! But does he tell YOU any of this? No, he DECIEVES you, to try to make BUSH look like he dropped the ball. As if BUSH was up there in the mountains, searching with a flashlight. What an asshole. There are lots of facts like that I could tell you, but never as many as if YOU read the book. And as far as the facts you want(Kerry's charitable donations, Saddam paying Hamas $25,000 to blow up Israeli civilians, I'll post them. You must not watch much news if you never heard about the $25,000. You have to use DIFFERENT sources, son. CNN doesn't always get it right, and neither does Fox. The AP is biased, have been for YEARS, everybody KNOWS it, but the left won't ADMIT it. And EVERYBODY uses THEIR stories. I find news sources from England often have stories about the war, or even AMERICAN events, that you might not see in OUR papers until the story gets BIG. So you HAVE to hop around, if you REALLY want to be informed, and NOT spoon-fed THEIR pablum. Good Luck.

-- SomeoneWhoCares (ettefruc@yahoo.com)), October 11, 2004.

so are you EVER going to GET to a decent POINT or are you JUST going to SIT here pulling SHIT out of your ASS, blindly devoted to your country? Can you really never question your government, and more presumably, your leader, and think that we're infaliable? We make mistakes, politicians and generals lie, they're human. Or is that just more of this 'liberal media' gone to my head? Pal, Anti isn't the one who sounds brainwashed to me.

and by the way, stop capitalizing certain words for emphasis. We get the idea.

-- U msut Feers Me (W.lovesblow@blank.com), October 11, 2004.


Fruccette, or whatever names you wish to call yourself this week, its time for you to actually shut the fuck up and get a life! Awwww, you don't like to hear that? Well to bad kid. Get used to it goof. You can accuse me, or anyone else of being a racist. Doesn't make it true. Just shows how many enemies you have that you can't keep your facts straight you lonely friendless wonder. As for the rest of your rant: Blah, blah, blah, I read maybe 5% of your post, until I got bored by your same ol' crapolla.

If you ever say anything intelligent, maybe people will stop giving you grief. Then again, if it wasn’t for your pathetic attempts at pissing people off, you’d have no-one to talk to, you attention starved freak! Now I know I hurt your little feelings, way back whenever, and you actually never got over it...Good, glad you remember!

Oh, and until next time, don't forget to Shut The Fuck Up GOOF.

-- Shut the fuck up (shut@thefuckup.goof), October 11, 2004.



STFU, sthu U dumbass! Ur a loser and U know it!

-- (poo@ber.org), October 12, 2004.

Wow, that's some comeback! Then again, can't expect much from a brain dead loser like you! Bwaaaa haa ha!! You are soooooooooo funnee, but still a goof that needs to just shut the fuck up!!

-- Shut the fuck up (shut@thefuckup.goof), October 12, 2004.

Stfu, go back to whatever mudhole that spawned a racist sh**head such as yourself. It must suck to be your mother right about now, if she knew about your "hobby" of posting hate swill and also you jerking off to kiddie porn like your other second daddy. The shame would make her wish for a retroactive abortion of you.

-- F. U. (F@U.com), October 13, 2004.

I haven't heard any 'racist' comments coming from STFU. The only reason you would attack his comments is because you are all the same person, you lost some argument with him, and now your only defense is to pose as others, even though you're the same person. All which makes your comments very lame. Very, very lame!

-- u_need_help@get_real.com (u_need_help@get_real.com), October 13, 2004.

" I can see just by your response about Besla, where you spout the SAME EXACT LIBERAL LINE I've seen in COUNTLESS liberal "political" websites. Always an excuse ready for Islamic Fundamentalists."

I wasn't trying to make an excuse for Besla and I wasn't trying to justify it. I was simply pointing out that Islamic fundamentalism is not the only force at work in Chechnya. The root of the conflict goes back long before Islamic terrorism became an issue and the origional nature of the conflict was not really religious in nature. There are no good guys in this fight anymore. On the one hand, you've got a government that has commited genocide against Chechnya, and on the other hand, you've got people srtiking back by murdering women and children. Both sides have a lot of blood on their hands. To reduce this conflict into simply another battle of Islamic extremists vs. the West is a very simple-minded way of looking at it.

And I don't intend to make excuses for Islamic Fundamentalists. There are none. There is no excuse for killing innocent civilians, whether it's by a suicide bomber or by an American politician.

"Yet, when WE try to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY, and PREVENT ANOTHER ATTACK, Leftists, Liberals, Democrats, ALL ATTACK BUSH, and attack the JOB OF OUR SOLDIERS, WHICH IS TO KILL PEOPLE AND BREAK THINGS. "

I attack Bush because he didn't defend our country. He went on vacation for four months out of his first year in office. Lead after lead reached Ashcroft in the months leading up to 9/11 suggesting that an attack by bin Laden was immanent. What do you think Ashcroft said?

"I don't want to hear anything else about Al Quaeda."

I'm not making this up. He actualy said that, according to the 9/11 commission.

In August, Bush recieved a twelve and a half page memo entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within the United States". Bush decided not to read it. This administration was alseep at the wheel, and as a result they presided over the single worst intelligence failure in our country's history.

Then he ordered a half-assed invasion of Afghanistan with 10,000 troops. Ten thousand. There were more police guarding the Republican Convention than that. He allied himself with a bunch of murderers and thugs called the Northern Alliance, who the "liberal media" trumpeted as heroes and champions of democracy. Now the "democracy" in Afghanistan is practicaly powerless; Hamid Karzai's government controlls Kabul and a small area around it, and the rest is in the hands of the same warlords who controlled it four years ago. The Bureau of Women's Affairs that the "liberal media" celebrated is now hopelessly underfunded and has no power. In most of Afghanistan, people are still publicly executed, women are still beaten to death if they leave the house without a burqua, and armed militias still roam the countryside murdering indiscriminantly.

Osama bin laden is nowhere to be found. I doubt he was ever in Tora Bora. He's a middle-aged man with kidney failure who has to be hooked up to a dialisis machine for the better part of every day. Is it just me, or is it somewhat difficult to picture him cave-hopping while dragging a dialisis machine behind him? Common sense points to Saudi Arabia. That's where his money is coming from. He's got plenty of wealthy supporters there. Yet Dubya has refused to even consider the idea that his buddies the Sauds could be harboring one of the world's most dangerous men.

And by what stetch of the imaginiation did invading Iraq involve "defending our country"? Saddam was not a threat to us. He was not involved with Osama bin Laden. He was not behind 9/11. Bush bullshitted us and a thousand Americans died because of it. Iraq is a much bigger breeding ground for terrorism now than it was two years ago.

"There are lots of facts like that I could tell you, but never as many as if YOU read the book"

I may do that. I read lots of conservative books. Unlike you, I try to read things that challenge my beliefs, not just propaganda that reenforces them. I listen to Bill O'Reilly. I've read one of Hannity's books (I forget which one). I almost picked up a copy of "Michael Moore is a Big Fat Stupid White Man" a few weeks ago, only to realize I have no money, so that'll have to wait. But how many conservatives have read "Lies and the Lying Liars that Tell Them" or seen "Farenheit 9/11"?

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 13, 2004.



To the poster of this topic "ettefruc@yahoo.com"

Qwestion:

How many hit's of crack per day are you taking? *Ahem* Must be a lot.

Get some help.

-- ??? (qwestions@forthefruitcake.com), October 14, 2004.


"I wasn't trying to make an excuse for Besla and I wasn't trying to justify it. I was simply pointing out that Islamic fundamentalism is not the only force at work in Chechnya. The root of the conflict goes back long before Islamic terrorism became an issue and the origional nature of the conflict was not really religious in nature. There are no good guys in this fight anymore. On the one hand, you've got a government that has commited genocide against Chechnya, and on the other hand, you've got people srtiking back by murdering women and children. Both sides have a lot of blood on their hands. To reduce this conflict into simply another battle of Islamic extremists vs. the West is a very simple-minded way of looking at it.

And I don't intend to make excuses for Islamic Fundamentalists. There are none. There is no excuse for killing innocent civilians, whether it's by a suicide bomber or by an American politician. "

Anti-Bush you are mistaken about the Tchetchnya issue. Muslim conflict between the Russians/Georgian's and the Techtchnyan/Arminian/turkish based tribes have existed there right from the begining. I was forced by our grand Army to sit and listen to countless lectures about the area and its problems back last December. TChetchnya is a land of thieves basically that has never been able to function on her own, or function as part of a larger better nation. The people there are constantly referred to as savages. After getting their freedom they wanted more land where the population was 60% russian they wanted this land for ore. Russia refused and terrorist attacks began. If the US was ever forced to endure what Israel or Russia has we would be a very different nation, most likly a lot more violent and crule to Middle Eastern nations. So there is a bad guy there and it is the criminal tchetchans that never stop their internal and external warfare.

"attack Bush because he didn't defend our country. He went on vacation for four months out of his first year in office. Lead after lead reached Ashcroft in the months leading up to 9/11 suggesting that an attack by bin Laden was immanent. What do you think Ashcroft said? "

Oh come on you think because he isnt in the white house that Bush no longer has any duties? He still is capable of everything a president can do at his home. Presidents like FDR spent great time away at their homes during problems... its called a more friendly environment to make decisions. Imminate threat what where we supposed to do duck and cover for a few months? We are always under Imminate threat fool. The whole time I was passing crap out to Afghanis I was a target but you never think about it you dont stop til you get dropped.

"I'm not making this up. He actualy said that, according to the 9/11 commission.

In August, Bush recieved a twelve and a half page memo entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within the United States". Bush decided not to read it. This administration was alseep at the wheel, and as a result they presided over the single worst intelligence failure in our country's history.

Then he ordered a half-assed invasion of Afghanistan with 10,000 troops. Ten thousand. There were more police guarding the Republican Convention than that. He allied himself with a bunch of murderers and thugs called the Northern Alliance, who the "liberal media" trumpeted as heroes and champions of democracy. Now the "democracy" in Afghanistan is practicaly powerless; Hamid Karzai's government controlls Kabul and a small area around it, and the rest is in the hands of the same warlords who controlled it four years ago. The Bureau of Women's Affairs that the "liberal media" celebrated is now hopelessly underfunded and has no power. In most of Afghanistan, people are still publicly executed, women are still beaten to death if they leave the house without a burqua, and armed militias still roam the countryside murdering indiscriminantly.

Osama bin laden is nowhere to be found. I doubt he was ever in Tora Bora. He's a middle-aged man with kidney failure who has to be hooked up to a dialisis machine for the better part of every day. Is it just me, or is it somewhat difficult to picture him cave-hopping while dragging a dialisis machine behind him? Common sense points to Saudi Arabia. That's where his money is coming from. He's got plenty of wealthy supporters there. Yet Dubya has refused to even consider the idea that his buddies the Sauds could be harboring one of the world's most dangerous men.

And by what stetch of the imaginiation did invading Iraq involve "defending our country"? Saddam was not a threat to us. He was not involved with Osama bin Laden. He was not behind 9/11. Bush bullshitted us and a thousand Americans died because of it. Iraq is a much bigger breeding ground for terrorism now than it was two years ago. "

Ok I was going to first off begin with the report but now you did it mother fucker. Half Assed invasion? Listen here you little piece of shit how old are you? 17? shut the fuck up I am in my 30s been in the army since '92 it wasnt a half assed invasion. Once Bush hands Franks the decree for action Franks has the power to decide even if Bush tries to step in. I was part of the first attack I went into a little crappy area called octunt to do a raid on a building. We chose the quick aproach to taking Afghanistan by attacking from all angles sending in spec ops to get revolution going real good and then once the taliban was made so it couldnt try to disolve over the entire nation but was forced to flee south we inserted the occupation force. How would you have done it?

2nd He was in tora bora and he is still in that region getting in is easy now sneaking out is a little more complicated. You can have a mobile unit its a little black box you can hook up to you can hoble around with it we have them here on base. Most of the gaurds we find say he is healthy as can be anyway so fuck off. Why would he go to Saudi Arabia? He hates their current gov. because they wouldnt employ him back in the 90s he wants them dead in Saudi Arabia he is wanted. If he went there he would announce it and try to get their already weak gov. to crumble. I dont know why you libs are so hung up on the Saudis if that gov. falls we are fucked big time.

"And by what stetch of the imaginiation did invading Iraq involve "defending our country"? Saddam was not a threat to us. He was not involved with Osama bin Laden. He was not behind 9/11. Bush bullshitted us and a thousand Americans died because of it. Iraq is a much bigger breeding ground for terrorism now than it was two years ago. "

Please anti-bush did we declare war on terror or al queda? Terror meaning all aspects of it. Iraq was directly funding Hamas and if you notcie after Sadam went there was 8 months without a signifigant Hamas attack. So blow a big one Anti-Bush. I was involved in the ential invasion of Iraq I had gotten back June 8th from that place June 8th last year..... time flys anyway Iraq was funding terrorist groups it was looking for WMDs even Sadam said that. I believe they did have them but a general or something shipped them to good old syria the UN's best buddy.



-- Lt. Breeden. (Annunaki God@aol.com), October 20, 2004.


"Oh come on you think because he isnt in the white house that Bush no longer has any duties? He still is capable of everything a president can do at his home. Presidents like FDR spent great time away at their homes during problems... its called a more friendly environment to make decisions. Imminate threat what where we supposed to do duck and cover for a few months?"

Bush did NOTHING to stop 9/11. He went on vacation. There's a great video of an interview with him in the summer of 2001 (while on vacation, obviousy) where a reporter asks him what, if anything, he is doing. He manages to stumble out a reply that went something like this "Uh, well, ya know, you don't have to be in the White House to be working...we're workin' on lots of stuff...we've got...telephones, and fax machines, and stuff like that...and I work on stuff a lot...I was workin' on somethin' this mornin'...when you're President there's a lot of stuff to work on, ya know?"

Michael Moore shows the video of the interview in Farenheit 9/11. If you watch the video you can see him trying as hard as he can to bullshit his way through it...it reminded me of the shit I used to make up (and still do, to a lesser extent) when my parents would ask me if my homework was done: "Well, I'm working on some stuff, and you know I've finished a lot of important stuff, and I'm working hard..."

When the leader of the free world starts using the same excuses I used when I was in Junior High School, you can tell we are fucked.

Oh, and thanks for completely avoiding the memo "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Within the United States" and John Ashcroft's abyssmal handling of the information he got prior to 9/11. If you know you're wrong, just say so. Don't be a wimp about it.

"Ok I was going to first off begin with the report but now you did it mother fucker. Half Assed invasion? Listen here you little piece of shit how old are you? 17? shut the fuck up I am in my 30s"

Congradulations. Usualy natural selection takes its course by now, but it looks like you beat the system. Give yourself a hand.

"it wasnt a half assed invasion. Once Bush hands Franks the decree for action Franks has the power to decide even if Bush tries to step in. I was part of the first attack I went into a little crappy area called octunt to do a raid on a building. We chose the quick aproach to taking Afghanistan by attacking from all angles sending in spec ops to get revolution going real good and then once the taliban was made so it couldnt try to disolve over the entire nation but was forced to flee south we inserted the occupation force. How would you have done it?"

I'm not saying our soldiers did a bad job I'm saying our President didn't follow through. He put fewer troops in Afghanistan than there were policemen guarding his convention, he has let Osama escape, and the vast majority of Afghanistan is no better off than it was four years ago. But hey, as long as UNOCAL can build their pipeline, it's all good. Fuck the people.

"2nd He was in tora bora and he is still in that region getting in is easy now sneaking out is a little more complicated. You can have a mobile unit its a little black box you can hook up to you can hoble around with it we have them here on base."

Assuming that's true, which I highly doubt, you simply can't live in a cave when you're on dialisis. It just doesn't work. And for three years? Forget about it. He'd be dead. The man has KIDNEY FAILURE. I don't care what kind of "little box" your base may or may not have, there is nothing that could keep him alive in a cave in the middle of fucking nowhere for three years. He has to be somewhere where there is advanced medical care. The man has millions of dollars at his disposal. I sincerely doubt that he would not be able to find top-of- the-line care SOMEWHERE.

"Most of the gaurds we find say he is healthy as can be anyway so fuck off."

Horse shit. You pulled that completely out of your ass. Try again, junior.

"Why would he go to Saudi Arabia? He hates their current gov. because they wouldnt employ him back in the 90s he wants them dead in Saudi Arabia he is wanted. If he went there he would announce it and try to get their already weak gov. to crumble. I dont know why you libs are so hung up on the Saudis if that gov. falls we are fucked big time."

Well let's see...millions of dollars pour into al Quaeda from Saud princes...many members of the royal family embrace bin Laden's brand of militant Islam and support him even though the King doesn't...the majority of the hijackers were Saudi...you do the math. Bin Laden's got no reason to announce his presence in Sausi Arabia. He's probably perfectly happy chilling in a palace with some obscure member of the royal family, getting top-dollar health care and enjoying life...why fuck it up by telling the world he's there? As long as he's still at large he still strikes fear into the heart of the "great satan"...why risk getting caught?

"Please anti-bush did we declare war on terror or al queda? Terror meaning all aspects of it."

A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but no air force. Carefull when you define terrorism, buddy. You just may shoot yourself in the foot. Is it terrorism when a country funds death squads that go from village to village murdering people? Is it terrorism to spread napalm all over a countryside? Is it terrorism when one of our "smart bombs" hits a school? If you answered yes to any of these questions, you've just accused the United States of America of terrorism.

"Iraq was directly funding Hamas and if you notcie after Sadam went there was 8 months without a signifigant Hamas attack."

When was the last signifigant Hamas attack on American citizens prior to Saddam's removal? I certainly don't recall Hamas flying planes into any buildings. But then again, you're thirty, so obviously you know everything.

"anyway Iraq was funding terrorist groups it was looking for WMDs even Sadam said that. I believe they did have them but a general or something shipped them to good old syria the UN's best buddy."

On October 7th the Bush Administration admitted that Saddam did not, in fact, possess weapons of mass destruction.

-- Anti-bush (Comrade_bleh@hotmail.com), October 21, 2004.


"I'm not saying our soldiers did a bad job I'm saying our President didn't follow through. He put fewer troops in Afghanistan than there were policemen guarding his convention, he has let Osama escape, and the vast majority of Afghanistan is no better off than it was four years ago. But hey, as long as UNOCAL can build their pipeline, it's all good. Fuck the people. "

In the first stage of combat! Bush turned the operation over to Tommy Franks. So when you say it was half assed you are talking about us the soldiers. Have you ever been to Afghanistan little man? I think not. So don't try to say it is no better I was over there in the begining and I was over there a few months back and let me tell you something there has been a 180 degree turn around over there. So dont spout your liberal shit to someone who knows the facts and doesnt get his news from the media but has been there to see it.

"Assuming that's true, which I highly doubt, you simply can't live in a cave when you're on dialisis. It just doesn't work. And for three years? Forget about it. He'd be dead. The man has KIDNEY FAILURE. I don't care what kind of "little box" your base may or may not have, there is nothing that could keep him alive in a cave in the middle of fucking nowhere for three years. He has to be somewhere where there is advanced medical care. The man has millions of dollars at his disposal. I sincerely doubt that he would not be able to find top-of- the-line care SOMEWHERE. "

YOU ASSUME HE HAS THAT PROBLEM! WHEN THE INTEL ON THE GROUND IS 100% DIFFERENT! WE HEAR DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE MAN CONSTANTLY. IF HE HAD GOT OUT WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THE SOB WITH A GEOSTAR MORON. THERE ISNT A FUCKING SECOND THAT REGION ISNT BEING MONITORED. HE LIVED IN FUCKING CAVES EVER SINCE DESERT STORM FUCKER I THINK HE COULD MAKE IT ANOUTHER 3 FREAKIN' YEARS.

"Horse shit. You pulled that completely out of your ass. Try again, junior. "

Dont you talk down to me BOY. You just cant handle someone who knows this shit has shown everything you know about the war over there to be false.

"Well let's see...millions of dollars pour into al Quaeda from Saud princes...many members of the royal family embrace bin Laden's brand of militant Islam and support him even though the King doesn't...the majority of the hijackers were Saudi...you do the math. Bin Laden's got no reason to announce his presence in Sausi Arabia. He's probably perfectly happy chilling in a palace with some obscure member of the royal family, getting top-dollar health care and enjoying life...why fuck it up by telling the world he's there? As long as he's still at large he still strikes fear into the heart of the "great satan"...why risk getting caught? "

He is against the Saudi family. I sat through countless houres of classes talking about this shit and being told about the whole tribal political social BS going on over there. If he was in Saudi Arabia there would A be more attacks on it and B he would announce he is there the 67% unemployed youth between the ages of 16-25 would rally up behind him and he would destablize the gov. he hates so much leaving america fucked. We are doing our best to keep him out of Saudi Arabia and Jordan.

"A terrorist is someone who has a bomb but no air force. Carefull when you define terrorism, buddy. You just may shoot yourself in the foot. Is it terrorism when a country funds death squads that go from village to village murdering people? Is it terrorism to spread napalm all over a countryside? Is it terrorism when one of our "smart bombs" hits a school? If you answered yes to any of these questions, you've just accused the United States of America of terrorism. "

LOL do not try to talk about Nam or anything else with me. 1st lol how is a bomb accident a kind of terrorism? was it terrorism when Chris through a flash bang in a room and ran in while it was blowing up sucessfuly knocking his eye out of his socket? I mean it was an accident too he was horribly hurt it struck fear in my heart I always make sure to do my count now. No I define terrorism when a little politcal faction is using unconventional tactics to strike fear in the hearts of inocent civilians. When we have lets say destroyed villages in Vietnam we did so because the down was aiding Viet Cong soldiers.

"When was the last signifigant Hamas attack on American citizens prior to Saddam's removal? I certainly don't recall Hamas flying planes into any buildings. But then again, you're thirty, so obviously you know everything."

Hamas has attacked and murdered US civilians in Israel countless times. It has openly declared war on the United States and other factions inside our boarders. It has forwarded funding to terrorists all the way in Columbia. Bite my ass.

"On October 7th the Bush Administration admitted that Saddam did not, in fact, possess weapons of mass destruction. "

They had meant that NO WMDs had been found and most evidence showed otherwise. When I was in Iraq during the invasion we captured to an iraqi col with a bio suit on he refused to talk. I do not know what happened to the man all i can say is we found him within 60 miles of Syria's boarder.

-- Lt. Alexander Breeden (M4socom@aol.com), October 21, 2004.


you know me and my little sister's ex Carter arnt bad people. I also want to clear up I am not some awesome kick ass can do anything Ranger bad ass war hero. I have been in awhile yea my first deployment was somalia I sucessful was wounded right off the bat in the arm and got to see no real action ever. I spent months in Serbia at a medical camp. I have been on countless patroles. I did some stuff in Iraq but mainly I just gathered some papers and did a flashbang or two. I had some iraqis surrended to my squad. We saw 3 fierce fire fights. In Afghanistan invasion same thing papers pictures putting up equipment. Went back did medical work handed out asprin simple stuff. did a few patroles when other units needed some time off.

sometimes I just get mad when people that are going off of the media try to tell me how the world works. let me tell you anti-bush until you join the forces and travel to these places you cant understand. I also want you to know i would give your liberal mind 1 year before you where a conservative just like me.

so i just wanted to humble my last post a bit and open up and tell you how it is from my mind.

-- Alex (Annunaki God@aol.com), October 21, 2004.



It's amazing to me the lengths of self-denial all of you Bush communists will go to. Here is this fucknut loser "SomeoneWhoCares" goes on and on like a whining spoiled child. WHy is it you losers like you have to lie and cuss? Even then that's still not enough, YOU HAVE TO TYPE LIKE THIS THINKING IT MEANS MORE! Are you that tweaked? That delusional? WHat an idiot you are. The Bush family going back three generations are mass murders, liars, and corrupt to the bone. In any other country it would be tried for every crime in the book and immediately strung up.

" The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie rather than a small one, especially if it is repeated over and over. " - Adolph Hitler

-- Mondo (irishthug@yahoo.com), December 22, 2004.


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