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I start my own board then I too can learn how to post peoples Ip's? Come on now be sports, wouldnt you like that? Since I emailed the moderator here and my IP is still here looks like I'll be going to the top dog. This is a TOS

-- world (not@of.this), October 28, 2004

Answers

world,

If the moderator you emailed was David, he's away for awhile. Try Elpidio. I agree, I would not like having an IP posted either. I think people should be pre-warned, unless they do something really bad.

-- Emily ("jesusfollower7@yahoo.com), October 29, 2004.


Do you want me to delete the thread why was my thread deleted, World?

That's the one that has your info....

-- Chriistian Moderator (christian_moderator@yahoo.com), October 29, 2004.


That would be nice, look all I am asking is the Ip number to come off, I am not about screaming fire, I emailed you personally I did not wish to come aboard this way. This is your place and I respect that even though I may of been goofing off, which I was, I understand it was not right. I would appreciate it if you simply took off the IP number you dont have to delete a whole thread. I am not that important.

Sincere thanks. Also, although I do visit anarchy board, This is to Rod, so what? I am diverse. I post no foul language believe in Jesus like you do. So what gives?

To the moderator: again thanks

-- world (not@of.this), October 29, 2004.


removed from this place. This was done on 10/29/04 4:55 pm.

-- Christian Moderator (christian_moderator@yahoo.com), October 29, 2004.

Hi World,

In order to hangout in a tough neighborhood, one generally needs to be pretty tough skinned. This ain't one of those tough neighborhoods. Respect is generally given and given and given, but without the street language. It just seemed so ironic that you expected respect from this neighborhood, yet hangout in that "Anarchy" place. That' all.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 29, 2004.



I dont 'hang out' anywhere. Rod, why the personal attack? Why did you feel the need to 'follow me around'? I would say I am a human being, over the age of 18 and can go anywhere I wish internet wise or street wise. I know who I am. I do not need opinions of others to validate who I am. Nor do I really care much. As for anarchy so what? Do you KNOW how to have a little fun Rod? [censored] I dont know what site you visit, and to be quite frank, I could care less. I've been around here a very long time. I am tough skinned, trust me. I wont leave because my feelings are hurt or someone attacks me. Now, since I started this thread I will wind it up on my note: [censored]. And btw, show me where in anarchy I participated in cursing and the like. But start another thread, this is getting boring and fwiw, it is ask Jesus. I do not wish to be distractive.

-- world (not@of.this), October 30, 2004.

Amazing! Now, you are beginning to scare me, World. My post was not an attack, but you perceive it as such. I appears that anything I address to you will be perceived as an attack; therefore, it would be best just to avoid any further discussion with you. Please understand that I will not respond to you because of this problem I have described.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


Nice try Rod, but I didnt mean to scare you...sheesh. Who here is paranoid? I dont care if you talk to me or not. Really. Its all a matter of opinion. But....you still need to look at your post to see perhaps 'attack' was a strong word, but judgemental, yeah I like that one better. Btw, what were you doing over at anarchy? touche~

-- world (not@of.this), October 30, 2004.

Those posting there always end up in our forum one way or the other, world.

ooga,ako....,...you name it...

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


hi elp, I am not understanding what you mean. Posting ending up over here. I also visit the catholic site though. I wont post there I am not real familiar with catholic doctrine. Do posts there end up here as well? They seem to have a decent debate over there though, I will give them that. Although I am aghast at the post re: Arafat. He is a threat to the Jewish people and today they announced he has luekemia. I pray for our leadership and for the up/coming elections. Believe it or not, I can be a pretty cool person. I like to goof off, never did I intend to hurt anyone, just mix things up. It was wrong, so I ask forgiveness. Hey, what else can I do?

-- world (not@of.this), October 30, 2004.


The only regular from anarchy in the Catholic is anti-Bush.

The others just tried to hack.

But they do post here.

The only thread there at the Catholic open for business to anyone is politics.

Just say anything that might offend them in dogmas (Virgin birth ofJesus, Jesus God, Peter the first Pope,...) and you are out!!!

I had 25% + of my posts deleted there. 0.03 % here at Ask Jesus. I post at 8 different places (AME, Ask Jesus, Catholic, Christian Forum,The Gathering,...), and I do visit Anarchy ,but I don't post.

The Christian Yahwist

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


"Touche"??? Who is attacking who, world? Obviously, you haven't read my posts carefully enough. I explained why I was at the Anarchy Forum. Checkmate!

Uh, you're forgiven.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


I explained why I visited the "Anarchy Forum", world.

Here is the thread where I explained it to you:

The Link.

Here is my post:

If it is respect that you are looking for, World, may I suggest that you leave the "Anarchy Forum" for a better place that uses a better way of using language. That forum uses vulgarity like a [scuba-diver] uses oxygen. This place will give you respect. We already have. It is just that when your tone gets abrasive, we tend to want to do some cleaning.

Stalking? Nope. I was actually wondering about the other boards in Greenspun and this forum's ranking. I clicked on a few threads and found your post. As far as the "Anarchy Forum" goes, well.....let me wait [to explain until] my stomach stops turning.

Please consider hanging around here and engaging in some valuable discussions. It is fine to disagree, but in so doing, we tend to discover somethings about ourselves we never expected.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 29, 2004.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


Just say anything that might offend them in dogmas (Virgin birth of Jesus, Jesus God, Peter the first Pope,...) and you are out!!!

its not the denying of catholic doctrine which will get you ousted from the catholic forum. It is the uncivil, continued, baseless attacks on catholic doctrine, even after such attacks have been duely responded to. to the people making these baseless attacks i'm sure that it seems unfair, but a couple of the people removed in the last year from the catholic board (one of which posts here often now) are the most destructive people i've ever run into on any forum in my life.

we are not a board for excercise of freedom of speech. we are a pointed discussion group with a general goal (furthering catholic knowledge) and hence we post by a strong set of rules. do as you wish here, because protestant beliefs range so incredibly, but picking on the catholic board because it wants to be catholic??? thats a little off if you ask me.

I had 25% + of my posts deleted there.

no offense elp, not all of your posts and ideas are kosher with the catholic church. some of those posts could easily be viewed as against the forum rules. I like you, elp, because you seem to be a good person and have never been outright rude as others have, but your discussion has sometimes strayed from the topic of catholicism into the realm of advertising your beliefs to an extent which was unnacceptable.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), October 30, 2004.


World--

How do feel about retracting your remark towards me?

Here is your remark:

"Do you KNOW how to have a little fun Rod? [censored]".

1. I do not follow anyone around.
2. Explain: "...a little fun...".
3. Explain: "...get [censored]?"
If you are still considering receiving respect from me, I would highly recommend that you either retract, explain, or justify your remarks towards me, world. One way or the other, this matter shall be resovled.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.



Actually, paul h., there are times when even those in the Church are considered not Kosher like Emerald, Jake, Regina, Ian,....The Church left them behind.

This I believe they do. Even Mel Gibson believes so.

They believe they represent the true Church. They were deleted and kicked out before me.

As for me, I am a Bible reader who seraches for the truth.

For 17 years I was a Catholic Yahwist even before I had a revelation from Jesus and God Yahweh on July 23, 2000.

The scriptures said to me that a)Jesus prayed to his father(Yahweh), was afraid to die(take away this cup...),....even Peter calls him a man (Acts 2). Paul never mentions a virgin birth.

So much of Catholic Dogma went down the drain this past 21 years. I could not back it up from tradition, history, the Bible,...

So on a revelation I had on July 2002 (right about after the day I dreamed the Pope was going to Mexico for his last time I was told the coming destructionof the Roman Catholic Church and that I had to start a new one. [He was planning to go this year, but canceled the trip in July. Maybe he was scared he was going to die given the 6 trips I told you. This trip to Mexico was going to be # 7 of the foreign trips. Local trips (Pompeii and Loreto) don't count).]

Before that, I was trying to my best to stay Catholic. I failed.

Jesus did his best to stay within Judaism. He failed too. That is why he appeared to Paul (Saul) while this man was on his way to damascus to capture Jesus' disciples.

Paul created the Church now we call Catholic. Paul's church was gentile. So is the Catholic Church.

Peter's and John's and James' church was Messianic Jewish also known as Ebionite. They still believed in circumcision, fasting,....

I am kind of in between the two.

The Christian Yahwist

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


Amazing! Now, you are beginning to scare me, World. My post was not an attack, but you perceive it as such. I appears that anything I address to you will be perceived as an attack; therefore, it would be best just to avoid any further discussion with you. Please understand that I will not respond to you because of this problem I have described.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.

World says "the above states the solution". You said you shall not respond to me, I then shall do the same after this post. You have further shown yourself in a poll to see if I am someone else. If I get banned as you are insinuating, okay. But if not, I am NOT faith, (who imho should have just not addressed you any further), I will not just *poof* go away. From here on out, do not address me unless you can stop the provoking, cuz buddy I can give as well as I get. I dont wish to do that. That is not what the forum is about. I am here to thought provoke, remember? Now, onto the posting, to all others, sorry to hijack. Rod, I can be and play nice. It is your call. Either way I shall survive. If you choose to address me in a calm way fine, if not, for the sake of this place I will keep my fingers to myself.

-- world (not@of.this), October 30, 2004.


Yawn... aren't these sorts of threads just a waste of space?

>Jesus did his best to stay within Judaism. He failed too.<

Huh? Jesus failed? Hmmm...

-- Max Darity (arrowtouch@yahoo.com), October 30, 2004.


Ok, World. I offered you a chance to retract your offensive remarks. You didn't budge.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 31, 2004.


World--

I guess I mistook your post as an apology. Was I wrong? In thinking that you had apologized, I responded to you. Now, I'm made out to be one with the wool pulled over his eyes.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 31, 2004.


Max and Elpidio

Well, I guess that in a way we could use the word "fail" to describe certain events relating to Jesus and His mission. I think the Jews would make it more impactful that Christ was a failure. Some Jews didn't accept Him, so it would be natural to defame Christ. If Christ failed, it was because the Jews (some, not all) did not accept Him. If we look at the "Sola Gratia" system, it sets up a condition of failure on behalf of Christ, afterall, it isn't us that requires any "work" it is His "work".

I have also read other views that make Christ' mission a total failure. The Jews were not totally receptive, the Apostles were not totally faithful, and The Crucifixion ended it all. Of course, that is a very pessimistic and fatalistic view, which misses the entire reason and purpose of Christ' Salvation offering. My curiosity involves the evidence we see today. If Christ was indeed a failure, why then do so many people in the world believe in Him?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 31, 2004.


today, i failed to fly to the moon. (i didn't try very hard.)

in the past i have tried to think objects into levitation. and i have failed.

i have also tried to find a right angled triangles that defy Pythagoreas. and i have failed.

what is "failure"?

the answer to that fails me.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), October 31, 2004.


Is it possible for a person to fail being a failure?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 31, 2004.


[Message deleted: 1st Violation of forum rules.]



-- Stanley (Stan4444@aol.com), October 31, 2004.


Stanely--

If you must attack and insult me, you may choose to email me instead. The public arena will only make you look bad. I can ignore you in both the private and public arenas. You might have a difficulty with that, though.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 31, 2004.


oops! I meant "Stanley", sorry.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), October 31, 2004.


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