TC, you are not allowed to use many fake names or e-mail adresses.

Take a look: TC (A@@b.com) on 2004-12-03: Response to Out of body experiences TC (qwer@@@tyui.com) on 2004-11-29: Response to How can we assist Holy Mother Church TC (a@b.com) on 2004-12-03: Response to Real Presence: Church body Diogenes (What is this@likes answers.com) on 2004-12-03: Response to The Morality of the War in Iraq Bart (Bartholomew4@aol.com) on 2004-12-05: Response to Who is Catholic (part 2) TC (a@b.com) on 2004-12-03: Response to Who is Catholic (part 2) TC (1@@2.com) on 2004-11-29: Response to Who is Catholic (part 2) TC (eerty@@@iii.com) on 2004-11-29: Response to Who is Catholic (part 2) TC (hummer@@rt567.com) on 2004-11-30: Response to Mass Apostasy TC (Treadmill234@south.com) on 2004-11-29: Response to Mass Apostasy[Edited out]

-- Assistant Moderator (christian_moderator@yahoo.com), December 07, 2004

Answers

Is your name Miriel, Bartholomew, Phillip,.....Ethan...

-- Assistant Moderator? (christian_moderator@yahoo.com), December 07, 2004.

I am sorry, but I am a person with multiple personalities, My psychiatrist is trying to help but I don't think that he can. I don't know if I am a man or woman, or what. I will try to stick to TC but it will tear me apart inside. My family will not allow me to use the computer if I keep using every brother, sister, cousin, aunt and uncle. Even my dog was not off limits.

It did seem though, that the ratings went up didn't it?

At least I did not claim to be John Paul II, or Billy Graham.... not yet anyway.

-- TC really me. (Treadmill@south.com), December 07, 2004.

Mr. Modertor;

You have done me a great favor by admonishing me on the name thing. First and foremost, you have good people here and you are the best moderator that I have seen. You do not censor divergent opinions just because they do not agree with your own. That is a rarity.

I got into the mess because I am a nonsense person as you can see by the post above, but a lie is still a lie no matter what you call it.

I could hae posted all my messages by my TC handle, but for about ten or fifteen percent, I got stupid.

You know, a lie is probably the worst sin of all. After all it caused the downfall of mankind, and the Killing of the Chistians by Nero, and Our Dear Lord hung on the cross because of lying witnesses.

Truth is the first casualty of war, and lies are the cause of all wars, politics, business, marriages and so much more.

I shall not post here anymore as I feel I cannot in conscience do so.

Fortunately this nonsense does not carry over into my everyday life outside this forum. For that I am grateful.

God bless all here,

TC

-- TC (Treadmill234@south.com), December 08, 2004.

Uh, TC?

The idea here is to simply post using one username. The idea, I believe, is to keep you here, not for you to leave. I wish some person in this forum were as repentant, but oh well.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

Does this really matter that much Elpidio?

We are all using fake names.

This is an anonymous discussion board.

Does it matter what name a person uses?

Aren't we addressing the topic and not the poster?

Unless you want to be able to use a bias attitude against someone's post based just on *who* they are, and not what they are saying, then I don't see what difference it makes.

We still don't know who TC is--even after you have exposed his right to anonymity.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

You are confused, Faith.

Does this really matter that much Elpidio?

Evidently, it does. Elpidio will elaborate.

We are all using fake names.

You does not constitue "all", Faith. I'm not using a fake name. It really is me.

This is an anonymous discussion board.

Evidently not. I know who Elpidio is; he knows who I am. Our reference points remain so because of the consistency of our handles.

Does it matter what name a person uses?

No, but it does matter the the name remains consistant. That way we will know who is attacking, discussing, or debating with us. We then know their platforms and where they are coming from.

Aren't we addressing the topic and not the poster?

Sometimes the posters are the real topic and sometimes their agendas. Ideally, it should be the topic and the evidence that is the focal point.

Unless you want to be able to use a bias attitude against someone's post based just on *who* they are, and not what they are saying, then I don't see what difference it makes.

Like when somebody claims their church is invisible, no one knows where that person's doctrine or theology is worshiped--the denomination. Who can discuss an invisible church? Well, then we discuss the personal interpretations; that's where the church is visible. Such people open themselves up for such discussions.

We still don't know who TC is--even after you have exposed his right to anonymity.

You miss the point, Faith. Now, we know the intent of his posts based on a reference point by which we can identify his faith, views, and concerns.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

"We still don't know who TC is--even after you have exposed his right to anonymity. "--Faith.

Your logic is flawed. If you still don't know who TC is, then TC hasn't been exposed of his anonymity, now has he? Also, what's in a name? You've also stressed that a name means nothing. Your argument means nothing.

So, what exactly are you trying to say, Faith. Just say that you wish to post under different names and be done with it. Oops! I meant ThinkTank.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.co), December 08, 2004.

TC: Faith, Rod and I all vote for you to stay.

i suspect that we all also endorse this: "First and foremost, you have good people here and you are the best moderator that I have seen. You do not censor divergent opinions just because they do not agree with your own. "

that makes me believe (NOT know) that the moderators would prefer that you stayed.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), December 08, 2004.

"We are all using fake names"

That is an incorrect statement... I use my real name...

-- Kevin Walker (kevinlwalker572@cs.com), December 08, 2004.

Kevin

what was the point of your post?!?! i am interested.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), December 08, 2004.

Let me re-phrase my point:

We are all "unknown" posters.

My name may be Faith--it may not be.

I may be a woman or I could be a man for all anyone could tell.

You may very well be Kevin--but you are still an anonymous poster posting on a discussion board filled with anonymous people whether we use our real name or not.

Unless all of you are going to give your full name and address (not recommended), we are all unknown.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

Hi Ian and Kevin.

I think Kevin's point, as well as most of ours, is the ideal situation of seeking the truth. Kevin exemplifies honesty in this forum. That doesn't always mean that he perpetuates total and complete TRUTH. Of course, Kevin will see it differently. Let me borrow Pilate's famous/infamous saying:

"Who has the truth?"

Have we noticed those posters who use their "real" names and the nature of their posts?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

Faith, Sarah, or ThinkTank.

That may seem like an accurate assumption, but in reality it is our presence in this forum that has become real. You have become "Faith" in the minds and thoughts of all who have come to know you through your words. It is irrelevant what your name is; we still know what you stand for and who you are. It isn't important to know your location on this planet or in cyber-space. You already exist in our mind and sometimes our hearts (don't get tear-y eyed, my heart has some healing to do over some of your posts).

I think I know what our regular posters are all about. That is the real thing about this forum. We seek the truth.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

thanks Rod & Faith.

i certainly accept that, imho, Kevin is straight as a die. but i also accept Faith's point. if Kevin posted as he did, but calling himself Jane, i would hold the same opinion. the "handle" thing doesn't bother me. i see it as a barrier between myself and the criminal world.

having said that, i doubt i could ever pass myself off posting as a woman!

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), December 08, 2004.

Rod

agreed! that's what i was trying to say in my last post.

-- Ian (ib@vertifgo.com), December 08, 2004.

Kevin says:

"That is an incorrect statement... I use my real name... " and Faith responds:

"You may very well be Kevin--but you are still an anonymous poster posting on a discussion board filled with anonymous people whether we use our real name or not."

We might need DNA results to really prove whether or not Kevin is telling the truth. On the other hand, I have never seen anything that suggests that Kevin is even the slightest bit dishonest. Therefore, I will just go ahead and believe him.

-- James (stinkcat_14@hotmail.com), December 08, 2004.

It would seem like Faith is a great thorn in my side. After reading some of our past duals and battles, one would be willing to proclaim Faith and I as combatants in the arena of theological and doctrinal disputes. But, in all reality, Faith is not the thorn in my side.

Ah! mystery and suspense abounds! I shall not reveal my secret.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

rod?

Did you call me Sarah?

Sorry to disappoint--but if you know a Sarah--it isn't me.

I never denied posting as CreationScience@thinktank.com

Just so ya know....

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

Faith says:

"I may be a woman or I could be a man for all anyone could tell."

Ah, you could be, but my guess is that you will admit to being a woman. Because, on another thread, the issue of contraception was discussed and you said you had your tubes tied, and at least one c-section(can't remember the number). I don't think you would want to leave open the possibility that you would have lied. Not that I think you did.

-- James (stinkcat_14@hotmail.com), December 08, 2004.

Sorry, Faith. I'm just testing the waters and setting up a little "trust fun[d]" for later reference.

BTW, I did initially want the freedom to post under different names. I had some sensitive questions I wanted answered. I decided against it. Nothing is safe in cyber-space. They will eventually find you if they want to. Uh, don't get spooked people. My questions dealt with divorce, questionable Confession procedures, and the Holy Eucharist.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

Yes James, I did say those things. It was 5 c-sections, but whose counting??

Still., I am still an anonymous person here.

Sometimes I post on another board as another poster than who they know me as--and I truly get an entirely different reaction.

What bothers me is that if I want a serious discussion and I post as faith, right away, the reactions are not based on my post itself--but on me. Someone else could post the very same thing and would get a different response from you all here.

Sometimes it is refreshing to become * anonymously-anonymous* and I don't see why Elpidio has to blow that for someone unless there is some serious foul play going on or something.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

"Sometimes it is refreshing to become * anonymously- anonymous* ..."

Well, "a rose by any other name is still a rose". Your posts aren't gonna become less abrasive, are they? If your tone will change, I'm all for changing your username, Faith.

The main problem with changing names is the fact the the ISP number will not change.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

Ah, but rod,

That information is only known by the moderator.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

Precisely, faith and Rod.

TC has been a great contributor.

Even though he has not used offensive language here, some people might think they are responding to another person.

It doesn' bother me if TC continues to publish here provided he sticks to one e-mail.

If he does, then this thread will be deleted.

[I already edited out this thread at the top]

-- Assiatant Moderator (christian_moderatator@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

Why Elpidio?

Why does someone have to stick to one email?

Most people don't even use legitimate emails..

Why aren't you, instead, demanding that no one use a fake address?

At least that demand would be more justifiable.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

Faith review your email options and you will find that the information is there for the asking. IP addresses tag along with the email messages. One need not be a moderator, email recipient will do just fine.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

I have an idea of who posts. But what about the rest of the people? Remember when they were second guessing if creation science was faith? I knw, but the rest were not sure.

We know how to respond to you, faith. But how could we resppond to creation science?

Do we say, Welcome to this forum or what?

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

Well Elpidio,

We could remember that this is a discussion board and not a chat room.

Not that I mind discussing personal things to a degree. But in all honesty--I come here to debate theology and discuss religion.

There is no reason why someone can't respond to me whether I post from faith01@myway.com or Whatiscreationscience@thinktank.com.

The email address should make no difference. We are responding to the substance of the post--not the substance of the poster.

-- (faith01@myway.com), December 08, 2004.

I would like to thank Faith, Rod and Ian for their kind words, and for Mr. Moderator for being understanding. It is cold out there in the secular world, while here there is a lot in common (believe it or not). We all love the Lord and that is almost impossible to find on the outside.

As for phony monickers, If you see names like Tony the tooth, Harry the icepick, and Marco the Mechanic, they are not me. I will stick with plain old TC

God bless all.

-- TC (Treadmill234@south.com), December 08, 2004.

.....and, dude, you'll keep a-posting.....hopefully.....

-- Phoney-Ian-Is too-is not (falseib@vertifgo.com), December 08, 2004.

I use my name and to those who don't its no big deal as long as there is consistancy. The pen-name becomes you. After a while you feel you know who you are talking to and there is something nice about that,--- real name or not.

Its a bit disconcerting when someone suddenly comes in wearing a mask (till we figure out who it is.)

Still its really quite minor.

I feel most confident commenting on discussions like this one. This one's truely in my league.

-- Jim (furst@flash.net), December 08, 2004.

That is why I began to suspect TC had multiple personalities or several people were using his computer.

-- Elpidio Gonzalez (egonval@yahoo.com), December 08, 2004.

I'm not Mexican

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), December 09, 2004.

I'm not Japanese.

Ok, Luke. I figure your point is that you are American. I was born in Texas. That still makes me an American.

I'm also not Canadian.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 09, 2004.

My father's family is Hispanic, hence my last name. My mother is very European. That makes me an American (or "other" on forms).

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), December 11, 2004.

I'm not first!

-- Jim (furst@flash.net), December 16, 2004.

Ah! my kids are probably Scotts-Irish-Spanish-Mexican. That means bratwurst and fajitas for family reunions. (I don't exactly like bratwurst, even if I could spell it correctly. They look like glorified wieners.)

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 16, 2004.

Yes, I know; bratwurst is probably Austrian or German. But, hey, they love'um up there in the North.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), December 16, 2004.

"That means bratwurst and fajitas for family reunions." --rod

Sounds like my kind of reunion, we don't get much bratwurst in the northeast, but I used to live in Wisconsin. They are good if you boil them in beer first, then put them on the grill.

-- James (stinkcat_14@hotmail.com), December 16, 2004.

"Texas is in America?" Hey, I didn't know that! (Just kidding).

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), December 16, 2004.

Nope. This year was the first in American history that we've elected a reelected a president from a foreign nation.

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), December 16, 2004.