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Oracle, if you are reading this I have a question. Before I ask it, let me tell you a little about myself and what I think of your postings. As far as my ethnicity is concerned, I am black, mixed with French, Irish, English, and Native American blood. I have a college education and can speak several languages such as Spanish, French, German, Italian, Mandarin Chinese, and Japanese. I am in the business of selling real estate and financial securitites. As you can tell, I do not fit your mold as the typical "negro" As far as your views are concerned, I do not object to them. Rather, I respect and validate them because it is our American right to express whatever views we want (I am assuming you are an American because I can not imagine any non-American with strong negative views about a particular ethnicity). Also, I would like to point out that your postings do expose harsh realities and flaws that lie in the African-American community that must be addressed and fixed so I applaud you and thank you for pointing them out in a professional manner. However, I do feel compelled to point out a minor fallacy in your views and that is this: Don't you think you are generalizing just a tad? I mean, do you feel that EVERY SINGLE "NEGRO" is in that caategory of being lowly and pathetic. I, for one don't think I should be in that category with all the education I have accumulated. Am I proud of my multi-ethnic background? Yes. Am I embarrassed about my multi-ethnic background? ABSOLUTELY!! It really is embarrassing and makes me look bad whenever I see someone speak in ebonics, hang out in front of liquor stores begging for enough change to buy lottery tickets after spending his welfare check on cheap malt liquor and selling food stamps for money to buy crack. I am embarrassed to the point that whenever people ask me what my race is I tell tham I am a native American instead of African-American, but not all the time. (I look more like a Cherokee Indian than African so I can get away with it. People even think I am Filipino even though I have no Asian blood) Anyway, I repect your views but I was just wondering if you are generlizing your statements just a tad.

-- Andrew (koljastar@yahoo.com), December 24, 2004

Answers

The oracle turned out to be some random posting under multiple names.

-- my name is of no importance (anarcicpolo@hotmail.com), December 24, 2004.

To Andrew: Greetings from the Oracle. Whom you have sought, you have found. It is a pity that you are what would best be described in the canine world as a mongrel. You are a regular Heinz 57, are you not? If you were pure bred, quite possibly the Oracle could talk some sense into you, but your mix and match bloodline inhibits such discourse. The content of your posting clearly indicates the confusion and conflicting emotions that are normally found in one of your pedigree. It would be an uphill battle for the Oracle to even attempt to correct your misconceptions, but fortunately for you, the Oracle, as a white man, possesses an inexhaustible supply of compassion and understanding and is fully capable and more importantly willing to set you on the right path.

The Oracle is curious as to why someone as successful and educated as you claim to be is seen wandering aimlessly around certain neighborhoods where full-blooded Ebonics speaking Negroes loiter outside of liquor stores begging for loose change. The Oracle shall give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that your sole reason for being in that area was in performance of your duties as a realtor. If that is the case, you most certainly are not one of the more successful ones having to rely on commissions derived from the sale of tenements.

First, allow the Oracle to set your heart at ease. Concerning your genetic makeup. You should not view your condition as an embarrassment. You are not responsible for the misguided lusts your ancestors surrendered themselves to. You are merely a product of their indiscretions.

Secondly, it is understandable why you are not proud of your heritage. You yourself have stated that Negroes make you look bad. The Oracle imagines it must be difficult for you to have any self- esteem with even a smidgen of Negro in you.

It is the common misconception of the gentle readers of these boards that merely because a handful of Negroes have the ability to mimic the white man that ALL Negroes are therefore equal to him. Many times the Oracle has been treated to examples where one Negro or another was able to overcome the obstacle of darkness and live a fruitful and productive life. Somehow this was proof that the Negro, as a race, was equal to the white man. The Negro Sympathizer’s view is that if one Negro can be found to do what the white man does, then, by extension, ALL Negroes must be included in this equality even if the remaining Negroes are not capable of it. We are not discussing individuals and their achievements; we are discussing an entire race. You see Andrew, the Negro was elevated to equality with the white man NOT on an individual basis, but as a group. In today’s thinking ALL Negroes are equal to the white man whether or not they are deserving of it. You must remember that the Oracle cannot state that because you are a realtor and an financial counselor, you are My equal and those whom you cited as investing their time and talents at the corner liquor store are not. Again, according to today’s thinking, the Oracle is expected to view those nose-picking Negroes as My peer. Inexplicably He cannot. Perhaps you are in a better position to explain why the Oracle is required to embrace them as an equal.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), December 24, 2004.


ANDREW:

Excuse me while I add my input here. I read the message by Andrew, and I must agree with the question raised by Oracle: Why would you be in an area where you could actually see ebonics speaking blacks hanging outside of liquor stores? Also, I do not understand the statement where you say that you feel that your multiethnic heritage is an "embarassment". Whatever the case, Im sure you have your reasons. I am half black and half white (of Puerto Rican ancestry). I only speak three languages (English, Spanish and German). I also have a college education, and a Graduate Degree (Masters in Computer Science). I do not necessarily object to Oracle's rather stunted views, however I find them a source of personal amusement.

ORACLE

You said this:

"It is the common misconception of the gentle readers of these boards that merely because a handful of Negroes have the ability to mimic the white man that ALL Negroes are therefore equal to him. Many times the Oracle has been treated to examples where one Negro or another was able to overcome the obstacle of darkness and live a fruitful and productive life. Somehow this was proof that the Negro, as a race, was equal to the white man. The Negro Sympathizer’s view is that if one Negro can be found to do what the white man does, then, by extension, ALL Negroes must be included in this equality even if the remaining Negroes are not capable of it. We are not discussing individuals and their achievements; we are discussing an entire race. You see Andrew, the Negro was elevated to equality with the white man NOT on an individual basis, but as a group. In today’s thinking ALL Negroes are equal to the white man whether or not they are deserving of it. You must remember that the Oracle cannot state that because you are a realtor and an financial counselor, you are My equal and those whom you cited as investing their time and talents at the corner liquor store are not. Again, according to today’s thinking, the Oracle is expected to view those nose-picking Negroes as My peer. Inexplicably He cannot. Perhaps you are in a better position to explain why the Oracle is required to embrace them as an equal."

First of all, I can use the very same distorted perception to ask why intellectually and educationally challenged whites should be considered equal to an intellectually superior black person. I can state unquestionably that I have more education than you, and I live in a much high socio-economic strata than you do. Does that make me superior? I dont think so. White supremacy is the folly of the ignorant (like yourself). It belongs to the nose-picking, two-step twanging white trash crowd. Not the highly educated and refined white socio-economic group you aspire to be part of. Within that group, you and your ideology would be violently rejected, and you would be shunned.

You are only my equal in the sense that you are a human being. By all other indicies, you are my inferior.

-- KOBE SBM (kobesbm@kobehq.com), December 24, 2004.


psst kobe, brasky here. Oracle is a riot. funny as hell and I appreciate his humor just as I can appreciate chappel on comedy central. have you ever been to supportthetruth.com? They have this 21 meg video about conditions in Israel. You would not believe the day to day bullshit how palestineans are treated. it was 56 minutes long. You know about the settlements and the checkpoints. One part was a palestinean woman in an ambulance hemmoraging. they made her wait at check point for hours and lost the first twin at the checkpoint. while on the road the Israeli citizens deliberatly slowed down for the ambulance. the second twin died. I do not think Oracle would try to slow an ambulance down if a negro woman was in a similar predicament. You might gasp at what Oracle bust balls with but if you want to see racism. Go to Israel and see how the Palestineans are treated on their best day. What I am getting at is don't be afraid to assess your views on racism especially when you try to point out the superiority complex oracle has. Your web site supports Israel and I am just asking you to look at it from a different angle. Here is a quote from our leader ariel sharon "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." -- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.

-- Bill Brasky (brasky@braskyland.com), December 24, 2004.

To Kobe SBM: Greetings from the Oracle. It appears that you and the Oracle are on the same page, but not the same paragraph. You have been overly lazy and not taken the time or the mental gymnastics necessary to follow your theory to its logical conclusion. The Oracle sincerely hopes that you can set aside your flippant dark side for a short time while the Oracle speaks to your rational white half.

Your quote: “First of all, I can use the very same distorted perception to ask why intellectually and educationally challenged whites should be considered equal to an intellectually superior black person.”

The Oracle’s response: If a person’s race is of no importance then the individual’s achievements determine whether or not that individual is superior over another. You truly do not understand the implications of your beliefs, do you? You have not thoroughly thought this through, have you? The Oracle thought you had not, but you had, through blind chance, inadvertently stumbled upon, and apparently agree with one of My more profound proofs that equality is a Myth and does not exist.

Kobe SBM, My off-white colored friend, look at the dilemma you are creating with the Negro Sympathizers on this board with your institution of superiority/inferiority based on individual achievement. There are some here who hang upon your every word and, if word gets out that you are a neophyte of the Oracle, you will either severely disappoint them or be responsible for attracting more to Him.

If one followed your principle to its logical conclusion, this would defeat the whole concept of equality, racial or otherwise. You see if we were to adopt your theory and consider weighing only an individual’s achievements as the basis of determining that person’s equality, then nobody would be equal to anyone else. How could you state with any conviction that one individual is equal to another when both have had totally different life experiences? This theory would lead one to conclude that because no two individuals have exactly the same characteristics, NOBODY IS EXACTLY EQUAL TO ANYONE ELSE. According to this theory, we now have literally billions of people running about this world and not one is exactly equal with another. Based solely upon an individual’s achievement and not having that person’s race come into play, you, Kobe SBM, have succeeded in proving that equality does not exist and must therefore be a Myth. Welcome aboard! You are invited to sit at My feet and continue with your education…. but not too close mind you.

For Kobe SBM and the Oracle to be proven wrong that equality does indeed exist, evidence must be provided that indicates that everyone is equal to one another regardless of achievements or lack thereof. The Oracle invites anyone who still believes in equality to come forth with his or her viewpoint. The Oracle accurately predicts that He will be met with absolute silence on this subject (except for the crickets chirping in the background). For those who believe in equality the Oracle provides you with yet another opportunity to prove your position. Equality is a Myth whether it is based upon race or the individual. Prove Me and Kobe SBM wrong. Do not return and merely state everyone is equal, PROVE IT, or dry up and blow away. If you cannot prove equality exists, why do you still believe in it? What do you base equality on?

If you adhere to the belief that one should consider the individual and not that person’s race, you still lose the argument. Look at you own lives. Do you not look up to some people and down at others? Of course you do. You mouth the words that everyone is equal, but in actual practice you do not TREAT everyone as equals. How hypocritical of you. The Oracle does not envy the position you have chosen for yourself.

-- Oracle (sitdown@backofthebus.com), December 26, 2004.



The Oracle is a hate-mongering whore without a true education and far too much time on it's hands. To the Jezebel calling itself "the Oracle": From what I'm seeing, you're nothing but a two-bit loser with no identity of your own and a lot of bile. GET A LIFE YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!

-- (ain't@saying.com), December 26, 2004.

ORACLE IS A FUCKER

-- AKOBADAGETH (AKOBADAGETH@INDISPUTABLE FACTS.COM), January 02, 2005.

goten is cute so so cute

-- ~*AngelGoten*~ (angelgoten@hotmail.com), January 08, 2005.

Racial superiority is a myth that has been propogated by the racist politicians who want to carry out their own personal agenda's. We all come from the same origins and are capable of the same. Oracle, you state that you do not believe that all races are 'equal'. I agree with you. The are not equal because you cannot measure equality when it comes to humans. I do however disagree with your notion that "whites" are superior. It might be true in our current times that the affluent nations of the world are predominantly white. That was not always the situation. Kingdoms of India and China were once superior in culture, riches and lifestyle that any of your anglosaxon cultures. The concept of the number 0 originated in the east also.

The only reason why todays affluent nations are powerful is because they were inhumane and brutal in obtaining that power from the east and from africa. Soon we will take over the world from you barbarians and instill peace and harmony between the races. Your whole notion of genetic superiority is flawed.

-- Anil (asianindian@hotmail.com), March 05, 2005.


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