I ghre up Chuch of Christ, which teaches Miracles no inger occure. The logic is that this was a tempoary scafoldign till the Bibel cpidl be completed ad he work done. The apostles cold perform Miraculous signs and transmit the gifts to others, but those thy transmitted them to, coidl nto trasnit them. Suffer to say, upon th death of the last Apsotle, John at Patmos, the ability to tranfer gifts ceased.

When the last person to receve a gift died, this ended Miracles.

I found the logic tisself spurious, but wont go too far into detial here onmy own Veiws.Suffice to say I beelvie Miracle ocntinue tothis very day.

I will rather ask, what are your Veiws?

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), January 25, 2005

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I ghre up Chuch of Christ, which teaches Miracles no inger occure. The logic is that this was a tempoary scafoldign till the Bibel cpidl be completed ad he work done. The apostles cold perform Miraculous signs and transmit the gifts to others, but those thy transmitted them to, coidl nto trasnit them. Suffer to say, upon th death of the last Apsotle, John at Patmos, the ability to tranfer gifts ceased.

When the last person to receve a gift died, this ended Miracles.

I found the logic tisself spurious, but wont go too far into detial here onmy own Veiws.Suffice to say I beelvie Miracle ocntinue tothis very day.

I will rather ask, what are your Veiws?

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), January 25, 2005.

I have had bad things happen in my life. The suffering was extreme. At the time, I could not even imagine why they were happening to me. Now, I can see why. But, was it a miracle that things turned out the way they did? I don't know.

I've never seen a man walk on water or bring the dead back to life. I have never seen a man ascend into the heavens by simple will. But, I have experienced existence and the birth of my children. Still, are they miracles? I don't know.

I have experienced a change of physical health from poor to relatively good health as a result of intense prayer and lifestyle change. A miracle was my only understanding. Oh sure, I did change my lifestyle with healthy eating and extreme exercise. God gave me the strength to make a change. Hey! I prayed.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), January 25, 2005.

My experience with what I would call a miracle or something unexplained would be when my husband was tested and they found a hernia and scheduled an appointment to have it treated. When he went back a few weeks later the hernia had healed itself up. We had prayed during these few weeks. The doctor said he had never seen anything like it before. Whatever it was we were truly blessed.

Pat

-- Pat (pahusch@sbcglobal.net), January 25, 2005.

Just a note:

The CoC on a whole does not teach that miracles no longer occur. This is only the opinion of some.

Here is another thread on the same topic: Miracles

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), January 25, 2005.

First of all , I'd like to know , what is a miracle ??

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:

-- Laurent LUG (.@...), January 26, 2005.

Miracles are those events that happen when doctors, psychologists, sooth sayers, and authorities say that it is impossible to happen, but you still pray for a solution. The solution presents itself and everyone involved is baffled except those who had faith to start with. Miracles are given by God.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), January 26, 2005.

Miracles are given by

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With that , I've got a problem !!

Salute & Cheers from a NON BELIEVER:

-- Laurent LUG (.@...), January 26, 2005.

To me,

Everything about life is a miracle.

Consider the birth of a baby or even a sunrise. We have become so desensitized to these things because we see them everyday. But these are truly miracles--as is even every breath of life we each breathe.

We forget even that our sight is an amazing complex gift!

Some people need to see the supernatural that is not so everyday or ordinary--but in truth, our very existence is a miracle.., supernatural.

-- (faith01@myway.com), January 26, 2005.

i agree with faith

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.com), January 26, 2005.

The natural life is a miracle simply by existing, yet God created mankind to reproduce. So I don't see it a miracle everytime a child is born.

-- Luke Juarez (hubertdorm@yahoo.com), January 26, 2005.

"Some people need to see the supernatural that is not so everyday or ordinary--but in truth, our very existence is a miracle.., supernatural. "--Faith.

Well, then. Please explain to SDQA why Jesus performed the miracles that He did. SDQA doesn't seem to have a grasp of those miracles.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), January 26, 2005.

Every miracle that Jesus performed was done in order to edify God's Salvation Plan.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), January 26, 2005.

Zarove,

I'm fatally allergic to cats. Over the years the allergy had gotten worse and I was in denial of that fact. For example, when the allergy first developed, it took 3 days of exposure to cats to put me into the hospital. lips turning blue, hacking up nasty muscus, breathing treatments every day for a week, you name it i had it all. well i pretty much avoided cats for years, but once in awhile, like for family stuff, i would subject myself to the cats in order to make an appearance.

gradually over the years, it took less and less time to get me sick. i didn't want to believe it cuz that would mean basically cutting all contact from some people that i love. so one christmas i stupidly let myself stay too long at a cat house. the next week, i was toast. my inhaler didn't work for very long, i had to hit it every 5 minutes. i used up rolls upon rolls of toilet paper for my nose. i laid around and did nothing so that i wouldn't have to work my lungs. my husband wanted to take me to the hospital and i told him no.

i was in one of those spiritual funks where you're like on the verge of believing in God but you can't seem to totally believe in Him, ya know? so in my confusion and my rage, i screamed at God that if he had a plan for me, he better let me know cuz i was willing to let myself suffocate in my sleep.

the next day, i woke up all better. and ever since then, i have never doubted Him.

just for a bit of background, my dad is a respiratory therapist and is well aware of my medical history. when i came to his house the next day, he was completely dumbfounded as to why i was even alive after i told him my story.

yes, i believe in miracles. praise God!

-- rina (hellorina@aol.com), January 26, 2005.

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-- hot chocol@ (hotchocol@teabagging.com), February 20, 2005.

I ditto that Faith. Every single living thing is a miracle . . . a profound miracle. The fact that we have breath is a miracle. Sometimes I am so awestruck by the simplest of creatures that I could fall to my knees in worship of the Creator. Such beauty all around us, and like Faith said, we become numb and ungrateful. Every living creature, every type of plant, every man, woman and child is the handiwork of the Master of the Universe.

Blessed be His name! There is no end to His glory!!!

Gail

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), February 20, 2005.

I am an elder in the Church of Christ and the idea of miracles comes up often and is probably misunderstood. First of all, what people think are miracles and what the definintion of a biblical miracle are two different things. A biblical miracle was something that transcended all natural laws. For instance, when Jesus healed the blind or crippled, they did not have an operation, take medication, or take two weeks to heal. They were instantly restored to perfect health. Some amazing things happen today with people recovering from serious illnesses or the birth of a child, but they are not biblical miracles. Child birth is a natural law of reproduction and our bodies with the healing powers that God designed in us, can overcome some very serious inflictions. These however are not biblical miracles. The apostles were given these powers and were able to hand them down to the next generation, but we have no scripture to substantiate that the next generation could hand them down. I Cor. chapter 13 tells us that these miraculous gifts would disappear when that which was perfect(better translation is complete) had come. This was not refering to jesus coming, it was refering to the scriptures becoming complete. All miracles in the New Testament were done for the preaching of the gospel and to confirm the word and those miracles were done through the hands of men. Men are not raising the dead or healing the blind today, although some claim to be. If they were perfroming biblical miracles, those people who were healed would be made completely whole again, instantly. I'm not saying that God does not have the power to do so, he just isn't. And don't think that prayer is not important because it is a powerful thing in helping us heal.

-- Melvin Roberts (mroberts07@atlanticbb.net), February 20, 2005.

I have witnessed too many miracles to be able to deny them. The most recent was a tumor that God removed from my wife. When she got pregnant with our now 9 month old son, the doctors did their normal sonogram and discovered a large fibroid tumor on her uterus. It was large enough to feel from the outside and eventually grew to where you could see it as a bump on her abdomen. Fibroid tumors are not cancerous to the mother, but they feed on estrogen, so the doctor said it would get bigger as the pregnancy progressed and would be a big concern during the latter stages - often causing pain, early labor and excessive bleeding during delivery and could very easily be life threatening during a c-section, which is what she had to have.

We went to see our priest and asked him to anoint her with oil and pray for her. We followed it up every night for months by laying hands on it and praying for God to remove it. The next sonogram, the first task the technician had was to measure the size of the tumor, only she couldn't find it, it was gone! The OB decided it had simiply slipped around to the back of the uterus and would still be a problem, but in the delivery room, the uterus is completely removed from the women to then remove the baby, and lo and behold, no tumor ANYWHERE! Even the doctor was stunned. He said that NEVER happens. Fibroids just don't go away during pregnancy, they grow huge.

This was just the most recent and it was personal. I've personally witnessed and even partcipated in a number of similar miracles over the past 21 years.

Just a few others off the top of my head . . . I've had friends (people I personally know) healed from: (1)severe diabetes (2) a broken leg (she broke it 2 day's earlier and God healed her as she was jumping up and down on the cast, the doctor x-rayed it and removed the cast - stunned out of his mind), (3) I watched as a friend, who was wheel chair bound after a brutal assault left him with broken knees and vertebrae in his back and God healed him instantly, he started jumping up and down in joy. The doctors and nurses who treated him after the assault literally weeped as they saw him walking down the hall toward them to show them what God had done. He has a stack of before and after x-rays to prove the healing too. (4) a woman I prayed for to remove a brain tumor, the next day she was in surgery and the doctors were startled to see the tumor had shrivelled up and died, they could see where it was but there was no reason for them to do anything other than close her back up.

Those are just the ones I can get to for now. I have to get back to work. But I would estimate the number of miraculous interventions I have witnesses to be in the hundreds.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), February 21, 2005.

That's awesome Dave!

Glory be to God!

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), February 21, 2005.

Of course there are miracles. Don't let a man-made interpretation of the Bible tell you differently.

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), February 21, 2005.

"Of course there are miracles."

Yes there is still the providence of God however, the miracles that were spoken of in the New Testament and those who had those powers have long since vanished...

"Don't let a man-made interpretation of the Bible tell you differently."

Don't let a man-made "Church" tell you, I mean force their interpretation for you concerning this matter...

-- Kevin Walker ("navyscporetired@comcast.net"), February 21, 2005.

I'm really surprised at this Kevin, truly. You have NEVER had anything miraculous happen, or even believed that something like this happened to anyone else?

Frank

-- Someone (ChimingIn@twocents.cam), February 21, 2005.

"I'm really surprised at this Kevin, truly. You have NEVER had anything miraculous happen, or even believed that something like this happened to anyone else?"

It is obvious Frank that you didn't bother to read what I wrote... Here it is again for you: "Yes there is still the providence of God however, the miracles that were spoken of in the New Testament and those who had those powers have long since vanished..."

-- Kevin Walker ("navyscporetired@comcast.net"), February 23, 2005.