Reality show will show an Exorcism????

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A sick idea 4 a sick mind!!!!

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42833

Exorcism live on TV 'Possessed' man to be 'healed' while attached to brain monitor

The UK's Channel 4 is taking reality television to the next level with the planned broadcast of a live exorcism of a man whose brain activity will be monitored while a priest drives out his demons.

Channel 4 has earned a reputation for provocative broadcasting of medical procedures, having shown an abortion in 2004 and an autopsy two years prior.

An Anglican priest will be conducting the exorcism on a young man who claims he is "possessed by evil," according to the Sunday London Times. The young man has been receiving counsel from the priest for several years.

The controversial subject matter has already drawn criticism before the program's showing.

"People who need this sort of help are nearly always psychologically troubled," says Dominic Walker, Bishop of Monmouth. "Once you've got a television program on exorcism we'll end up with lots of telephone calls from people saying, 'I think I'm possessed', because they have got some problems that a doctor hasn't been able to solve."

The Church of England has not commented on Channel 4's decision to broadcast the exorcism, but noted that the practice is one not viewed lightly by the clergy.

"There are very careful pastoral decisions made by priests about exactly what circumstances it's right to offer this ministry," said a spokesman.

Earlier this month, Ireland's Catholic dioceses were encouraged by a leading expert on spiritual issues to each have a specialist who is qualified to evaluate "poltergeists, hauntings and demonic infestations."

Anglican priests in Australia report they commonly bless homes whose owners complain of items of furniture being inexplicably moved about.

"Sometimes, it has to be said that, for some people, there is a psychological projection going on and you try to make sure that you don't cause any further damage to these people," Very Reverend Graeme Lawrence, Dean of Newcastle, tells the Sydney Morning Herald.

"But from time to time I have gone to a dwelling and taken some of the baptismal water from the font with me and I have quite clearly blessed the house, and asked for God's blessing. As a sign I've sprinkled the baptismal water and prayed that the presence will depart."

Channel 4 insists its intention is to treat the matter seriously and scientifically, not as a stunt to draw viewers. Scientists, as well as priests, are scheduled to be part of the program.

"Exorcisms are carried out regularly in Britain and some scientists who have studied religious experiences believe that measuring brain activity could reveal what's going on during the process," says Simon Andreae, Channel 4's head of science.

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-- A Friend (never@mind.tv), February 13, 2005

Answers

i hope its not a true posession, its an anglican priest. they have no powers of ordination and therefore no ability to cast out demons because they are not appointed by the apostolic succession.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), February 13, 2005.

At leat accordign to Cahtolci eiws. However, Ordination is not always needed, and in some nstances, regular Cahtolics ( and nonCahtolcis for that matter) have been succesful in excorsism.

Likewise, Orthodox Chruches veiw Anglican ordersas Valid.

So perhaps they may be able to work it yet.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), February 13, 2005.


However, Ordination is not always needed, and in some nstances, regular Cahtolics ( and nonCahtolcis for that matter) have been succesful in excorsism.

by all means, then, please provide a properly documented case as an example... as of three years ago, there was no documented case of ACTUAL possession which had been successfully exorcised by anyone other than a catholic exorcist.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), February 13, 2005.


That will take time, however, am I limited to three years?

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), February 13, 2005.

paul h - could you provde a link to more information about a properly documented case of a Catholic exorcism?

-- Pat Thompson (pat.thompson.45@gmail.com), February 13, 2005.


Hello, Javier Novoa. Are you still at jamanora@laciudad.com?

-- ioaun (Crux@fidelis.com), February 13, 2005.

no constraint to three years, zarove, i'd be interested in any properly documented case you can find.

Pat, as to actual cases of excorcisms, malachi martin wrote a pretty good text (prior to his falling away from the church) called "Hostage to the Devil." The book details in a sort of chronological story form the events leading up to and during the exorcism and all events are taken from medical record and interviews, while the text of the discussion during the exorcisms is actually taken directly from the tape recordings of the actual exorcisms. A word of warning though, reading that book gives me goosebumps.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), February 14, 2005.


I'll see what I czn find. But I find it hard ot beleive tha onlu Cahtolci poests cn prform excersisms, especially since he Preist himself dosnr excesise he emons but onky serves as an intermediary tool God uses.

Liek Miraculous Healings, the man does nothing, God perofrms he act. god can act throygh whomsoever he wills.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), February 14, 2005.


Hmmm.

If those possessions are real and the Anglicans do the Excorism and it works, what will that say of the Anglicans?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), February 14, 2005.


Hmmm.

Worse. What will that say about Exorcism and Demonic Possession?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), February 14, 2005.



When the trip to hell is sponsored by a TV Reality Show, don't expect any diabolical possession. Likely it's a diabolical script-writer paid by the groan. It's entertainment at its bottom rung, Folks.

-- eugene c. chavez (loschavez@pacbell.net), February 14, 2005.

It may even increase the pew populace in the CoE...

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), February 14, 2005.

does the salvation of souls from the clutches of demonic possession really matter? i dont know... but granted that this was something Jesus called his apostles to do, i would think that, logically, you would be supportive of it. If you actually read your bible instead of doing the protestant shuffle, you'll find that alot of things you're opposed to in the catholic church, or that you think dont matter, are COMANDED of us.

-- paul h (dontSendMeMail@notAnAddress.com), February 16, 2005.

Here is a case of exorcism.

Be careful, when reading the answers that the demons give, because they can be outright lies.

-- Andrew (andyhbk96@hotmail.com), February 22, 2005.


Andrew, that demonic testimony appears to be a farce. Such an exchange does not ring true for those who've encountered demons first hand. My guess is you have someone who's trying to make their personal theological opinions have an appearance of legitmacy by portraying them as the testimony of demons. I would not believe a word of it.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), February 22, 2005.



"by all means, then, please provide a properly documented case as an example... as of three years ago, there was no documented case of ACTUAL possession which had been successfully exorcised by anyone other than a catholic exorcist."

There are exorcisms performed all over the world by ordinary Christians. That they are not "documented" in accordance with Catholic expectations is a given. Doesn't mean they didn't happen.

In a conversation with a friend in the CEC this past weekend, he said the local Catholic bishop in their area has started to send people needing exorcism to their CEC parish because there isn't an available Catholic exorcist and he knows that they are able to pray for and effect deliverance.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), February 22, 2005.


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