Jesus' teachings..

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The major teaching event in the ministry of Jesus was the Sermon on the Mount. According to the scriptures, this was the largest gathering that Jesus addressed during His ministry. Given this opportunity, He did not bring people out of the audience and cure their illnesses; He did not ask for donations; He did not ask the people to worship Him; What He did do, was to teach the following lesson:

Matt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, For they shall be comforted.

Matt 5:5

Blessed are the meek, For they shall inherit the earth.

Matt 5:6

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, For they shall be filled.

Matt 5:7

Blessed are the merciful, For they shall obtain mercy.

Matt 5:8

Blessed are the pure in heart, For they shall see God.

Matt 5:9

Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.

Matt 5:10

Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Be righteous, be meek, be pure of heart, be a peacemaker, be merciful; when given the chance to instruct a great number of people, this is what Jesus felt to be important. Should it not be expected that all people who wish to follow Jesus, should also agree with Him that these ideas are the most important part of the religion of Jesus?

While I would like to believe that the teaching’s of Jesus should form the backbone of any religion that claims Jesus as its head, it seems that this view is not universally held. Those who have held with Paul’s view that it is faith and not works that lead to salvation have found it necessary to denigrate the value of Jesus’ teaching. They claim that since Jesus’ teachings about moral action are impossible for anyone (other than Jesus) to comply with perfectly, that His teachings are nothing more than an example meant to show us how imperfect we all are and how salvation for such imperfect beings is impossible except through the saving grace of faith.

An example of this can be found in the following quotations from the theologian, Carl Stange:

"Fellowship with God is not achieved through ethical performance. From an ethical standpoint, it is a derogation of the idea of the good to seek its realization by imitating Jesus. The teaching about the ideal.... only serves to make plain the reprehensibility of the human condition... The meaning of the moral demand is not that it gives us the power for the good but rather that it shows us our impotence for the good."

(Bauman, Clarence, The Sermon on the Mount, The Modern Quest for its Meaning, p.177.)

or this from Karl Bornhauser:

"The fulfillment of these demands are expected only from Jesus’ disciples."

(Bauman, Clarence, The Sermon on the Mount, The Modern Quest for its Meaning, p.153.)

Stange and Bornhauser are quite representative of those who back Paul’s view of faith over works. There are, however, many Theologians and Scholars who share my view that Jesus was an excellent teacher and that He meant both what He said and what He taught.

Here are some examples:

"Stange’s central axiom is derived not from Jesus but from Paul and reflects not the content of the Sermon on the Mount but the influence of Reformation dogma."

"Stange made claims about the Sermon on the Mount which its content does not validate. He read into it theories and experiences foreign to its sphere. Stange’s misinterpretation of the Sermon on the Mount exemplifies the characteristically Lutheran hermeneutical incongruity of superimposing upon the teaching of Jesus the theology of Paul."

(Bauman, Clarence, The Sermon on the Mount, The Modern Quest for its Meaning, p.185.)

and:

"Once it has been firmly ingrained in the human psyche that one can do no good work and that original sin is the all- pervading ontological reality of human being, then all ethics has been eliminated on principle as an expression of that original sinfulness on account of which man is caught up in the cosmic drama of supernatural redemption. Supernaturalistic explanations for why Jesus died and how his death saves us, however, largely evade the historical implications of messiahship and discipleship along the via dolorosas of life. ...The emphasis has been not on the didache Of Jesus but on the kerygma About Christ. Jesus’ teaching of the Way of the Cross has been replaced by Paul’s proclamation of the Word of the Cross with the effect that the offense of the Cross has been transferred from the existential to the epistemological plane so that the authoritative command to Follow Jesus has become an intellectual problem of Believing in Christ. That following Jesus is presumptuous and unnecessary is implicit in the logic of most atonement theories. "

(Bauman, Clarence, The Sermon on the Mount, The Modern Quest for its Meaning, p.421.)

or this from Leo Tolstoy:

"I accepted the fact that Christ meant exactly what he said. The least that can be required of those who judge another man’s teaching is, that they should take the teacher’s words in the exact sense in which he uses them. Christ did not consider his teaching as some high ideal of what mankind should be, but cannot attain to, nor does he consider it as a chimerical, poetical fancy, fit only to captivate the simple-minded inhabitant of Galilee; he considers his teaching as work, a work which is to save mankind. His suffering on the cross was no dream; he groaned in agony and died for his teaching."

(Bauman, Clarence, The Sermon on the Mount, The Modern Quest for its Meaning, p.11.)

or this strong statement from Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945, professor University of Berlin [interrupted by Hitler], pastor Confessing Church in Pomerania):

"We Lutherans have gathered like eagles around the carcass of cheap grace, and there we have drunk of the poison which has killed the life of following Christ. The word of cheap grace has been the ruin of more Christians than any commandment of works."

(Bonhoeffer, Dietrich, The Cost of Discipleship, p. 44)

Thus the lines are drawn between those who place emphasis on the teaching's of Jesus and those who accept the interpretations of Paul and his followers. As for myself, having taught a wide variety of subjects over the last 37 years, I find it highly insulting to Jesus to assume that His teachings were anything other than what He presented them to be: a direction on how best to live one’s life. All teachers present the best information they can on how to perfectly accomplish what is being taught. Teachers realize that their students are not going to learn to perfectly accomplish what is being taught, but they teach it with the idea that the student should do their best. I believe that this idea is excellently put forth by the original apostles in the Didache (or Rule of the Twelve):

"If you can bear the whole yoke of the Lord (i.e. the Law), you will be perfect; but if you cannot, do what you can."

(Didache 6:2-3)

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 09, 2005

Answers

I don't believe Jesus' teachings are morally impossible at all. In fact, the Holy Spirit is constantly working on me to conform me into the image of Christ. The Catholic Church has made these teachings their backbone from the beginning, temple. Many of the Protestant churches have not. Coincidentally, we've been teaching our kids this sermon in Sunday School for the past month. The teaching extends into even more difficut territory such as love our enemies and turn the other cheek. Indeed, this is the meat of Jesus' message to those who choose to follow Him.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), March 09, 2005.


But I think that the whole point jesus was making was that these things are only possible for man--when he is doing these things with the power from on High...and not in our own strength.

Jesus said it in the Sermon when the discouraged disciples asked Him-- "who, then, can be saved?" Jesus' hearers knew that they could not possibly do all the things that Jesus was listing.

Jesus agreed with them and said that with man it is impossible to get into heaven based on his works. He said that God had made a way--and that way was His Son.

Once we are saved and have the power and strength from on High dwelling in us--we can accomplish everything God commands of us.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 09, 2005.


Good one Faith, but what does God command of you..?

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 09, 2005.

1: Love God with all thy heart, mind, and sul.

2: Love thy neighbour as thyself.

3: Reoent of thy sins, and be baptised for their remission.

4: Live irgheously.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), March 09, 2005.


I agree we need power from God to accomplish these things which Jesus described as a righteousness that exceeds that of the Pharisees, BUT I believe that the power required is not the substitutionary power of Jesus' sacrifice, but the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

By a life-long process of dying to self and learning to live for Christ each and every day, the Lord has changed my desires, thoughts and ways dramatically over the years.

Paul said we are being conformed into the image of Jesus. That is a life long process of walking with God, allowing Him to change us and transform our nature to be more like Jesus every day. I can love my enemies. I can forgive those who've sinned against me. I can think pure thoughts that please God and not committ adultery in my mind. I can hunger and thirst for righteousness. I can mourn (long to see Jesus). I can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens me.

Scripture says we are to be holy as God is holy and to be perfect (complete) as God is perfect. Do I expect to be "perfect" in holiness during my life? No, in fact, the closer I draw to the Lord, the better I see Him and the more I realize how much more I have left to change to be like Him. But we NEVER stop the process and always submit ourselves to the Potter's Hand to be changed as He sees fit.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), March 09, 2005.



Sorry Faith, I misread your post. I totally agree with you. God's righteousness is such that man can only achieve it when empowered by the Holy Spirit.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), March 09, 2005.


David,

You wrote, "God's righteousness is such that man can only achieve it when empowered by the Holy Spirit"

How does the Holy Spirit "empower" us today???

-- Kevin Walker ("navyscporetired@comcast.net"), March 09, 2005.


"Jesus agreed with them and said that with man it is impossible to get into heaven based on his works."

[no it's not,you don't have to be perfect...you just have to be a real good person...people were never supposed to be perfect,that's my opinion]-sdqa

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), March 09, 2005.


Okay sdqa,

So how "good" is good enough? Do you know?

What bar or measure do you use?

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 09, 2005.


The Holy Spirit dwells in believers. His power manifests in the life of the believer as the gifts of the Spirit and the Fruit of the Spirit. He also functions as our Teacher and Comforter. He guides us into righteousness, convicts us when we sin and helps us to resist and overcome temptation. There are many more specific ways, but that should be sufficient to flush out more specific questions you're posing or to warrant your disagreement so we can get to the heart of your real question.

David

-- non-Catholic Christian (no@spam.com), March 09, 2005.



" What bar or measure do you use? " Faith has asked a valid question perhaps this may help.

The best point of measure is You, your children or other loved ones.

If each of us saw an injustice we did to someone else (rich or poor, strong or weak) come back upon ourselves or loved ones (maybe karma for lack of better expression). Would this not stop us and make each of us reflect on what we have done and to whom even if we didn't realize the anguish we were causing them.

We are all tested nearly every day in these areas which Jesus has tried to teach each of us. Consider these

Have you ever gone to a store purchased something only to realize that they Under-charged you? Have you ever gone back and made good on it? My wife, kids and myself do. ironically it started off with small amounts maybe a buck or 2 and suddenly and more often this was occuring and each time the $amounts continued to grow, we always returned it. (if you ever want to see someone in shock tell them they undercharged you and you want to make up the amount)

As I said it started a buck or 2 then became 5-10-20 and then it started happening in my business with my vendors but now it was 100- 200 literally up into the thousands, each time my people knew the rules and it would be returned or properly paid for. (now if this test ever hits the billions.... wishful thinking even then I would decline)---

NOW reverse it, If they overcharged you most likely you would demand that they make good on it.

Praying for your enemies? how about standing up in defense of your enemies when they are being wronged? YES of course! deliver justice to all and justice will be delivered to you when you least expect it.

Each of these things Jesus spoke about IS within our reach when we set our hearts and minds to it. (I believe this is a Muslim saying) "God says if you open the door to your heart and take even one small step to me I will take many steps to you, And if you take a few more steps I will take many, many more until we meet and I will reveal all good things to you"

What does God want and what does he promise to do for us, read and really study Isaiah 58- The words to live by are real simple but the promise is real big.

I have always believe these 2 verses from the Didache should always be kept in the back of peoples minds as we see them occuring more and more in society.

"16:3 For in the last days false prophets and seducers shall be multiplied,*** and the sheep shall be turned into wolves, and love shall be turned into hate***"

"16:4 and** because iniquity aboundeth they shall hate each other, and persecute each other, and deliver each other up; and then shall the Deceiver of the world appear as the Son of God,** and shall do signs and wonders, and the earth shall be delivered into his hands; and he shall do unlawful things, such as have never happened since the beginning of the world."

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-hoole.html

-- Michael G. (NoEmail@Nowhere.no), March 10, 2005.


"Okay sdqa,

So how "good" is good enough? Do you know?

What bar or measure do you use? "

[do you think of yourself that you are so evil that you deserve eternal pain and punishment just if you wouldn't believe in jesus?]-sdqa

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), March 10, 2005.


I do not beelive in Faith alone for slavaiton, so no, mere Beleif in Jesus isnt enough, for "even the devils beleive, and tremble"...

One must OBEY. Which si always in our best inerest anyway...

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), March 10, 2005.


No sdqa,

It's not about mere belief. Zarove thinks that the demons believed in Jesus. But that's not true. They believed that He existed and they knew the Scriptures--but they didn't put their faith in Him. The belong to Satan.

All I am telling you is what God has revealed in His Word. We are all under the curse, we are all sinful by nature and no one is good enough to measure up to the standards of holy perfection, which is required for us to get into heaven.

Therefore, God made a way. The only way is that we come based on Christ's perfection and Holiness. It is by His righteousness that we can stand before an Holy God.

Some people don't like that--but that is what God reveals to us. The Scriptures tell us that when we receive Christ into our hearts--He takes up residency there, and because He is in us, we no0w have the power to live righteous lives and become more Christ-like. But God doesn't complete our perfection until the end, so in the meantime, we will mess up. But each day, we get a little closer. Thankfully, we don't finally make it to perfection based on how well we do. We just need to remain faithful.., which, by-the-way, Scripture reveals that for the true believers--this is a sealed deal.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 10, 2005.


This is my opinion on the Holy Spirit..

Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. -1 Cor 3:16-

We are all temples of God, every humans, every animals, fish, etc.. Some may deny God and live mainly for themselves, but in the end God will weigh all of our spirits. So in the end, we all belong to God, even satan. we're all at his mercy.

So if any of us decide to walk in His ways, we're making ourselves holy, therefore our spirits inside us will be reflected as Holy..

Thats what i believe. :)

and Faith - you say satan's angels do not necessarily have faith in God even if they believe.. Jesus said "Even they do believe and they tremble!" Tremble.. they're scared shitless. I believe Satan is 'under' God.. I mean, read Job.. Satan is limited by God's boundaries. God said he cannot touch Job's body, he didnt.. then God gave him permission to do so, but not to kill Job, and satan did so.

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 10, 2005.



Yes templke,

Satan is definately under God--but the reason he and his minions tremble is because they do know what is prophesied about them. But they have not placed their faith in Jesus just because they believe what is said about Him. They still think that somehow, they can out smart God in the end. They tremble because they know the awesome power of God.

And the Scriptures tell us that only those who receive Christ will have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 10, 2005.


If one accepts God, one also accepts Christ.

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 10, 2005.

Not at all temple--

The Jews have still not received Jesus Christ as their Messiah., just as it was prophesied that they would not do.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 10, 2005.


It's not about mere belief. Zarove thinks that the demons believed in Jesus. But that's not true.

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

They believed that He existed and they knew the Scriptures--but they didn't put their faith in Him. The belong to Satan.

This would be the difference between "Faith" in somethigns existance, IEconfedence that omethign is true, and actions formed by such beelif.

Again, it takes more than simpkey beleiving Jesus was the chirst, the son of the Living God, or God incarnate, to enter Heaven, one must also repent and obey.

So I don see why you need to come at me liek this.

All I am telling you is what God has revealed in His Word. We are all under the curse, we are all sinful by nature and no one is good enough to measure up to the standards of holy perfection, which is required for us to get into heaven.

Therefore, God made a way. The only way is that we come based on Christ's perfection and Holiness. It is by His righteousness that we can stand before an Holy God.

But do we have to do anyting else, or just "Beleivein jesus".

Again, I refuted Faith aline, not faith in total...

The Bibnel also says often to "repent, for the Kingdom of God is nie".

repentance and leaign a righeosu life AFTER accepting Jesus christ is also required...

Some people don't like that--but that is what God reveals to us.

Ir's not about "Not liking it", its baout the truth. The Bibel says over and over, form the ospels to Pauls letters to James, that we must OBEY ad LIVE RIGHEOSULY. we can be forgiven our sins btu are still expected to OBEY.

For obedience is better than sacrifice.

The Scriptures tell us that when we receive Christ into our hearts--He takes up residency there, and because He is in us, we no0w have the power to live righteous lives and become more Christ-like.

But do we have to live righeosuly? Or are we saved and therefore nothign can damn us now?

I beelvie we can turn away form slavation, and still wind up in hell, even if our origional proffesison was sincere.

But God doesn't complete our perfection until the end, so in the meantime, we will mess up.

But we cn choose to sin as wlel, and must choos to live righeously.

But each day, we get a little closer. Thankfully, we don't finally make it to perfection based on how well we do. We just need to remain faithful.., which, by-the-way, Scripture reveals that for the true believers--this is a sealed deal.

No its not, the zBible mentions "Backslidders" and "heretics" and "Apostatesa". One can leave the faith. an dno, those that elave arent leaivng becase thy wherent "True beleivers."

In closing, do not mistepretent my meanikng base don wat ti beleive it is, Faith.

I rememebr when you told me of others hta sue the term restoraiton and then showed a Mromon site.

You said htye where a ult as they didnt accet Jesus's divinity. te Irony beign the Mromin site yo showed hs exaclty the same beelifs aboutthe tirnity that you do.

You currently rpresume I deny Jesus's divinity, because I reject one text as propehctic.

Be careful about other pronouncements.

-- ZAROVE (ZAROFF3@JUNO.COM), March 10, 2005.


"We are all under the curse, we are all sinful by nature and no one is good enough to measure up to the standards of holy perfection, which is required for us to get into heaven"

[noone is perfect,but that doesn't mean that everyone deserves eternal punishment...i don't agree with you that someone has to be perfect to enter heaven and noone is perfect so you need jesus to take your sins away=make you perfect,so you can enter heaven...you said it by yourself,we are sinful=unperfect by nature;why would god require from us then to be perfect to enter heaven?

unperfect isn't the same thing as evil...]-sdqa

-- sdqa (sdqa@sdqa.Com), March 10, 2005.


unperfect isn't the same thing as evil - SDQA

Thats true. Nicely said.

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 10, 2005.


SDQA, the "essence" of God is holy. That is what He IS. The requirement for perfection is not arbitrary, but rather a necessity by which none of us will see Him . . . we could not tolerate His presence in the state in which we are in; i.e, unholy. His presence would cause "meltdown," incineration, CREMATION!

If a person lives his life on this earth in apathy towards God, never wishing to know his creator, living a willfull, hedonistic, self- absorbed life, and then leaves this life in that state, the last thing he's gonna want is to be dragged into the presence of God kicking and screaming.

You will be as close to God THEN, as you are NOW. The difference is this . . . there is NO LIGHT IN HELL simply because God is not there. Therefore, hell is a place of deep, penetrating darkness and frustration, and the creatures that live there are there because they rejected the Light!

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), March 10, 2005.


WE are perfect when we have faith; we are made perfect. That doesn't mean pure or sinless. That means a condition of having what we need for Salvation.

...........

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 10, 2005.


"Thankfully, we don't finally make it to perfection based on how well we do. We just need to remain faithful..,"

Two scriptures come to mind concerning this typical response above from those who believe that one is saved by "faith alone":

Luke 6:46, "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do the things which I say?"

Revelation 20:12, "And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books."

-- Kevin Walker ("navyscporetired@comcast.net"), March 10, 2005.


Hi Gail :)

I did a bit of research on NDE - Near death experiences and i was surprised to read stories of people seeing a place of vast darkness and can only hear sounds of people moaning and groaning.

Which fits what Jesus described when casting out souls into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

That is so scary but it makes sense.. God is Light. Without God, there is no light.

Just thought id say something about NDE's :)

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 10, 2005.


temple, how old are you?

-- David Ortiz (cyberpunk1986@hotmail.com), March 11, 2005.

Why would that matter to you?

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 11, 2005.

Im assuming 1986 is your birth year.. and if it is, that would make me 4 years older than you. :)

Im 22.

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 11, 2005.


I'm twice as old. I'm immature, so that would make you not yet conceived!

Hi David. Yeea, yeea!

:P

.........

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


At least, that's how I figure it using David's assesments on me and my immaturity.

..............

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


I'm twice as old. I'm immature, so that would make you not yet conceived!

Nah that would just make you immature. :P

Nah im kidding. In a world like this, a person needs a good sense of humor to survive. :) really..

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 11, 2005.


David??? Are you listening??

Yes, a sense of humor. My life is half over and my sense of humor is immature. That's a nice little irony.

David doesn't trust me. So, I kid him every chance he lets me.

Why does the David and Goliath story come to mind?

..........

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


think of your life as half-experienced rather than half-over..

:)

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 11, 2005.


temple,

My oldest child, a girl, is also 22--and 22 is how old I was when I was pregnant with her. 22 is a nice age : )

....but it seems like I can remember that it isn't until you get into your 30's that ya finally get some respect....and then ya start thinking your old! There's no winning the age game.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.


Hee...heee...yes. You are correct.

I should be negative in a positive way...no, positive in a negative way....no, I should be positive. Yes.

Well, at least my cravings for a Harley have subsided quite significantly. That's good.

..........

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


(Tugging on my shirt collar) "I get no respeto!"

rodney rodríguez

...............

I had my kids in my mid 30's. Well, my wife had them. I kind of just stood there like a coat rack.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


lol!

I know what ya mean rod--my husband was a coat rack too!

I had three of my kids in my 30's. That's because after I had my first two in my early 20's, I was sure I was D-O-N-E!!!

Where's the justice? He's the one who looks like he gave birth to them! It's that rock-hard beer belly thing he's been making all these years. Heheh!

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.


I wanted kids in my twenties. Somethings just don't work out the way we plan them I guess. Now, we both wish we had one more child. We're too old. Then again, are we? I've just turned 45 and my wife would kill me if I reveled her age.

.................... Fortunately, I don't drink, only on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

..........

-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


Hahaha, you guys... :)

I wouldnt want mine to be a coat-rack. :P But we shall see what happens. I would want to experience childbirth at home, with help of midwives. I dont like hospitals, they treat childbirth like a disease and whats up with all those medicine? -_- But we shall see if its in my future :)

i know what youre both saying about aging. When i became 22, i freaked out. -_- what a dork i am.. im only gonna freak out every year, heheh. My other half, Craig, is a good number of years ahead of me.. :P He lied about being younger in hope id keep seeing him. It wasnt until i forgot his exact age that i asked.. he cringed for a while and finally confessed. And you guys know what..? If i knew his age beforehand, i wouldnt have given it a chance. -_- It was then that i realized age difference in couples dont matter. Its who you are. :) And im never going to have to worry about keeping up my apperances so i wouldnt be abandoned for a younger prettier girl. :P

ha! :)

-- temple (jahsmine@netzero.com), March 11, 2005.


rod,

You and I are like the same age! Imagine that :0

Fortunately, my husband has stopped the beer. He gave it up on New Year's Day. I think it really bothered him when the plumber who was working in our kitchen--mistook me for another one of his kids when I came in the door! Ha ha!! Life is very funny : )

But it took him 30 myears or so to make that beer belly. It's not gonna just disappear overnight. It'd be an absolute miracle if I could get him to come to my health club for some good 'ole working out. Baby steps though, baby steps!

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.


HA! A COAT RACK! That is tooooo funny!

My husband was more like a blubbery blob of quivering jello! And himself the FARMER! (They have to do all kinds of gross and disgusting things) The nurse had to sit him in the corner and make him look out the window counting cars as they passed on the highway! (At least he didn't pass out)

I think the real reason they started bringing the husbands into the rooms was to create a monumental COMIC DIVERSION for the poor woman laying in bed racked with "richtor scale" birth pangs.

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), March 11, 2005.


temple,

Today, the hospitals are doing great stuff for mothers-to-be.

I had all sorts of plans for my child-rearing days as well. I wasn't going to accept pain medication, I wanted to try that underwater birthing thing..etc...and what I ended up having was 5 ceserean- sections! Ya just never know!

But I enjoyed something new with my last few babies called rooming- in. They allowed the baby to stay with me the entire time I was in the hospital. This makes a huge difference in the type of baby you end up bringing home. My last few children were so much more content and didn't cry all the time. That is because when you room with your baby, you tend to him/her right away.

I think that in the hospital, they just let those poor babies cry for hours between feedings when you don't room-in. And as a mother, I had no idea. Then when I brought the baby home--it was like *surprise!!*

Older men are better since we woman are so much more mature! Heheh.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.


That's very funny, Gail..

Your husband became the patient! Men always think they have it worse!!

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.


Ain't that the truth!!

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), March 11, 2005.

If it were up to us, there would be no kids. We wouldn't have the courage to go through with the delivery :-)

David

-- CEC Christian (no@spam.com), March 11, 2005.


Yes,

When my husband gets even just a cold, of course--his is so much worse than everyone else's! I could not imagine him having a baby! Lol!! Stop it!! I'm laughing so hard...I can't breathe.

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.


If men had the babies, they would be delivered right on schedule to the very second after a few days of pregnancy. There wouldn't be any 9 months about it. Ok, then we'd probably be laid up in bed for about 9 months after delivery, recooperating. Hey, we'd deserve it.

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-- rod (elreryrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


Faith, we are the same age? That's the reason why we argue so much. We are set in our ways.

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


HA! picturing my hubby with a big swollen belly and ankles and holding his back is JUST TOO MUCH!

Faith, you could be talking about MY guy. Man-oh-man, I dread the "golden years" Lord, have mercy! Can't you just here it now!

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), March 11, 2005.


If women have Ceasareans, would men have Victorians?

Yes, I know......bad joke.

Hmmm......Agrippians?

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-- rod (elreyrod@yahoo.com), March 11, 2005.


I knew I spelled ceasarean wrong--I just couldn't think as fast as I was typing! I think I'd rather just forget that word altogether anyway!!

-- (faith01@myway.com), March 11, 2005.

And who could blame ya?

-- Gail (rothfarms@socket.net), March 11, 2005.

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